The cops are at my door!

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TheUltimateG

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If you dont know you have done anything wrong, there is no reason, NOT to answer the door. Could have been a large number of legit reasons or important.

The first poster that stated not to answer the door had the correct answer to this situation. Although you would like to use the old adage "if you have nothing to hide...", you may one day soon find that this very thinking will end you up in hot water. i direct you to the videos below for a better explanation of why you should never talk to cops no matter what the circumstances are. Also, if it were an emergency (say your home is on fire) the officer has good standing to enter the premises without a warrant and will do so if indeed there is a situation that calls for it. On a side note, the Fire Dept. can also enter without a warrant and against your will, and in some states/localities there is laws that actually say the Fire Dept. doesn't even have to be responding to a fire to forcefully enter your premises, they can enter for something as simple as a smoke alarm checkup or code enforcement. Check your local ordinances.

YouTube - Don't Talk to Cops, Part 1

YouTube - Don't Talk to Cops, Part 2
 

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Not in NJ - technically I could walk around with it on my back.

It was in my backseat, and he didn't know any better. He only annoyed me by pretending he knew for a fact it was illegal, and I was only able to get him to listen to reason when he realized I knew someone higher up than him (who, btw, told him that it wasn't illegal.)

Eh, who knows. Simple mistake, even though he should have known better. Never know, maybe he was originally from another state. Or like you said, he should have been trained better. I can't make a firm decision on that since I don't know everything.

killdozerd11- Yeah yeah yeah, just do that the police says, if you aren't breaking the law, you'll be fine.

TheUltimateG- I've always lived by the "If you have nothing to hide..." rule, and I've never had any problems. I don't see myself ever having any problems either. If the cop was wrong, it can be proven. If you were wrong, it can be proven. If a cop roughs you up and you are innocent, then "Mo money, mo money, mo money", and that's also alright with my broke ....!
 

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I've always lived by the "If you have nothing to hide..." rule, and I've never had any problems.
The fourth amendment to the constitution of the United States means nothing to you!?! No wonder US citizens are losing rights so quickly - too many people think they don't matter.

If the cop was wrong, it can be proven. If you were wrong, it can be proven. If a cop roughs you up and you are innocent, then "Mo money, mo money, mo money", and that's also alright with my broke ....!
Probably not. It seems you and I don't live in the same world. Maybe it's a regional thing but life doesn't work like this in Oakland California sweetheart.
 

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The fourth amendment to the constitution of the United States means nothing to you!?! No wonder US citizens are losing rights so quickly - too many people think they don't matter.


Probably not. It seems you and I don't live in the same world. Maybe it's a regional thing but life doesn't work like this in Oakland California sweetheart.

Fine fine, fourth amendment, I get it. There must be an epidemic on other parts of the country on that or something because I haven't ever had an officer ask to search my car. I've had an officer say "Is there anything in the car that I should be aware of?" after I was acting all nervous because I I got pulled over when I was delivering pizza and had been out of the store for an hour because I couldn't find the house (was afraid I was going to get in trouble for being gone so long), but he never asked if he could search the car. None of the people I know have ever had any issues with this sort of thing either.

I guess that it must just be a regional thing as far as that goes. Maybe it's because I am female, but all of my friends are male and they haven't ever had any problems either. Point still stands though, if they do something that they aren't supposed to do, that's what the civil court system is for!
 

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vaporn00b

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He is right!

In Smithfield NC, it is illegal to feed a hog from your kitchen window on Sundays between 1:00 and 6:00 PM.

I think the last time that law was enforced was in the 1800s, but it is still on the books!

NCC


LOL if I ever move to Smithfield, I'm totally feeding a hog from my kitchen window between 1-6 on a Sunday. :D

Greenville, NC here!
 

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I am convinced that this is the thread that won't ever die!

Found this in the somewhat local news today, an example where no "violence" was used which resulted in an officer getting hurt. Officer Injured During Police Chase

Ah. In many areas now, cops are not supposed to take vehicles out like that anymore. A radio is faster than any car, and with multiple cops, they have virtually unlimited gas. A single criminal in a single car does not. So unless they pose an obvious threat, cops are not to attempt to disable a vehicle like they did in this article - its dangerous to the cops, the person in the car, and property.
 

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Bullcrap. I am a cop and have no problem with vaping.
Don't talk to the Police!
And there you have it folks, right from the horses mouth. DON'T TALK TO COPS.

I apologize for posting the video a second time. Didn't read the full thread till now and noticed someone else had beat me to it.
 
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Ah. In many areas now, cops are not supposed to take vehicles out like that anymore. A radio is faster than any car, and with multiple cops, they have virtually unlimited gas. A single criminal in a single car does not. So unless they pose an obvious threat, cops are not to attempt to disable a vehicle like they did in this article - its dangerous to the cops, the person in the car, and property.

I was just saying that instead of "trying to get" him to come out of the car, they should have been a little more forceful with the guy. That way, he wouldn't have tried to take off again and end up hurting someone like he did. I can only imagine if he would be been able to make it fully out and lead them on another chase again, possibly hurting or killing someone else. Just saying, if you are going to stop someone like that, yank their .... out of the car, don't act coy with him.
 

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I was just saying that instead of "trying to get" him to come out of the car, they should have been a little more forceful with the guy. That way, he wouldn't have tried to take off again and end up hurting someone like he did. I can only imagine if he would be been able to make it fully out and lead them on another chase again, possibly hurting or killing someone else. Just saying, if you are going to stop someone like that, yank their .... out of the car, don't act coy with him.

I understand - but unless they are actually posing a threat, doing nothing and waiting is better. The cop got hurt because of the maneuver, really.
 

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I understand - but unless they are actually posing a threat, doing nothing and waiting is better. The cop got hurt because of the maneuver, really.

I know, but the guy just did a felony or several, I see nothing wrong with yanking him out of the car before he does something else! I think that's part of the problem in this country, we go too easy on criminals. If we had some more unusual or harsh forms of punishment like some other countries do, I bet that crime would drop down a good bit.

But the way it is, we'll just slap them on the wrist and maybe put them in a nice prison with food and shelter for a few years, then they can get back on the street and sell their drugs or whatever some more. Let's bring back beheading!
 

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I know, but the guy just did a felony or several, I see nothing wrong with yanking him out of the car before he does something else! I think that's part of the problem in this country, we go too easy on criminals. If we had some more unusual or harsh forms of punishment like some other countries do, I bet that crime would drop down a good bit.

I think he just stole the car, thats it. Unless he is about to hurt someone, there isn't a good reason to pin like the cops there did, its just dangerous.

Personally, I think we should put prisoners to work in their specialty, or train them in a usable specialty, and have their earnings go towards payment to the victims while serving time. But that would probably be considered cruel and unusual to some.
 

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I understand - but unless they are actually posing a threat, doing nothing and waiting is better. The cop got hurt because of the maneuver, really.

Ever heard of Tieisha Miller in Riverside CA
Not only was that a stupid decision by the Riverside police

But using the polish firing squad formation was something else that was stupid
I would have LMFAO if they would have shot each other

There were a lot of other things that could have been done and nobody would
have been killed this was NOT a case of split second decisions needing to be made time was on there side
 

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Ever heard of Tieisha Miller in Riverside CA
Not only was that a stupid decision by the Riverside police

But using the polish firing squad formation was something else that was stupid
I would have LMFAO if they would have shot each other

There were a lot of other things that could have been done and nobody would
have been killed this was NOT a case of split second decisions needing to be made time was on there side

99 right? I remember that, she was about my age. Damn shame, really. A perfect example of how not to act.
 
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