Non-sientific test

[Lab]

Well after all this there is no nicotine intake from e-cigs maybe a simple test could draw more light onto this.. why not forum users pick up a test kit.. online they are $4 probably $10 in the stores..

this would only be accurate for people that only use e-cigs and everyone post there average usages and the test results

 

[Skully7780]

Well after all this there is no nicotine intake from e-cigs maybe a simple test could draw more light onto this.. why not forum users pick up a test kit.. online they are $4 probably $10 in the stores..

this would only be accurate for people that only use e-cigs and everyone post there average usages and the test results

Suggested this also, nobody wants to spend the $4 it seems.

 

[tarheeldan]

Hey, I would definitely do this - we'd need a standardized setup though, to make the effort mean anything. i.e. we could take a read when we wake up, then record details about our vape (model, nic strength, liquid supplier, duration, # of pulls and length of pull, etc.). Then take nicotine levels after some pre-determined duration. The more we could standardize the different variables, the better of course but not all of us might have a certain strength liquid available. Nicotine has a short half-life, so either of you know a cheap way to test for cotinine? Having both would be even better.

 

[Skully7780]

Hey, I would definitely do this - we'd need a standardized setup though, to make the effort mean anything. i.e. we could take a read when we wake up, then record details about our vape (model, nic strength, liquid supplier, duration, # of pulls and length of pull, etc.). Then take nicotine levels after some pre-determined duration. The more we could standardize the different variables, the better of course but not all of us might have a certain strength liquid available. Nicotine has a short half-life, so either of you know a cheap way to test for cotinine? Having both would be even better.

Honestly that does not matter much, what we need is someone who is HONEST that they have not had a single ciggerette for over a month, thake the piss test and see if a positive is returned. If you are not a lab, I wouldn't suggest doing a study as it -will- be flawed.

 

[Belletrist]

i didn't know there were such easily available tests; i'm more than willing to spend $4 to try it.

granted, the 'results' will still be anecdotal because there's no truly controlled environment, but this is a great solution for people who are personally interested in whether they, as individuals, are absorbing nic.

in fact, i think i'll google the tests now, will make a good entry for the blog. thanks for the suggestion!

 

[tarheeldan]

Of course it's going to be flawed skully....but a scattergram of nicotine test results don't mean much without context as far as the levels. Sure, if we all send in results that show there IS nicotine in our system, that's good and well but doing the things I mention help interpret the data. I wasn't suggesting we perform a study with the kind of rigor you'd expect for publication - this is just for our edification. I'm a little hurt.

EDIT: these inexpensive test devices are pretty much binary (yes/no) so the above doesn't matter

 

[lostdaze]

I dont need to buy anything to know Im getting nicotine, dont care what anybody says.
nicotine burns, like when you chew nic gum or use the patch, when I hit my e-cig I feel the same burn in my mouth so Im convinced.

If Im not getting it then thats fine to as long as I dont get the craving for cigarettes, Im good.

 

[AJMoore]

Does someone have a link to the tests? I'd love to have one. If the nicotine does not register I'll feel better about telling my health insurance provider that I'm now cigarette free. Maybe lower premiums????? I was never sure but what they may test me for nicotine.

 

[Belletrist]

Of course it's going to be flawed skully....but a scattergram of nicotine test results don't mean much without context as far as the levels. Sure, if we all send in results that show there IS nicotine in our system, that's good and well but doing the things I mention help interpret the data. I wasn't suggesting we perform a study with the kind of rigor you'd expect for publication - this is just for our edification. I'm a little hurt.

i agree--no, anecdotal 'self-tests' aren't going to be published in a journal. but our brainy scientist friends may take note. studies are often inspired by anecdotal reports, after all.

 

[tarheeldan]

Here are a couple links to tests from a quick google (didn't check if they're safe/legit suppliers):
3.95
9.95 - these guys don't know the difference between principal and principle though

As I mentioned in my edit above, results are binary (yes/no)

 

[AJMoore]

Thanks Tarheeldan. I'll take a look.
Hey from Western NC.

 

[tarheeldan]

Hey back! I haven't been in NC since August but Durham, NC beats the heck out of Durham, NH

 

[AJMoore]

Yeah Buddy.

 

[Belletrist]

thanks for the link! and "these guys don't know the difference between principal and principle though"= thanks for the head's up, there.

 

[Belletrist]

here's a (more expensive) test that claims to test nic levels rather than simple presence/lack thereof.

http://www.testcountry.com/products...ooglebase&cvsfa=2371&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=31383333#

 

[tarheeldan]

Great find Belletrist! This does quantified cotinine!

 

[Houdini]

First of all I don't believe there is no nicotine in e-cigs. What else would it be that made me stop smoking? Second, I should know in a couple days if there is any nicotine in e-cigs. I changed life insurance policies last week and they took a saliva test. It's a little stick with a paddle on the end of it that stick between you cheek and gums for a minute. It's specifically testing for tobacco but I'm sure nicotine will show up too. We'll see.
Oh, and I havn't had a cigarette in over a year.

 

[tarheeldan]

Keep us posted, houdini. Those tests tend to be for cotinine as well because its half-life is much longer than nicotine itself. I'm gonna order one of these kits just for myself to see what the levels are for kicks. Just realized curiosity means I'm gonna pee on a stick (kind of). First time for everything.

 

[Belletrist]

yeah, i'm wary of doing the binary tests even though they're cheaper because there's no way i'll avoid second hand smoke completely for a week before testing (my hubs still smokes occasionally). just to be clear, i have no doubts at all that i'm getting nic from vaping, i'd just like to "see" the proof and maybe do a series of blog posts on it, esp in light of the eissenburg study.

 

[tarheeldan]

I'll look forward to those Belletrist. I figure I can spare a little bit of my "making work pay" tax credit on this.