Are people Still buying Provape Anything? WHY?

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rondo777

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My absolute favorite is the Rüzgar rta. I have used it exclusively for over a year, except on my bottom-feeders. I have rebuildable BF attys, but I like a plain 306 the best - oh, and my bOd MECHA doesn't play nicely with the Rüzgar, so I mostly use a Magma on it. I bought a innokin VF for it, because it was so little and cute, but it's too airy for me.
I like both the Ruzgar and the Magma as well. I used them both for quite a while and actually was lured into mechs so that I could build them sub ohm. I did get tired of the RTAs though and when higher powered mods came out I moved on to the kanger mini and .5 ohm coil. I was using it on my provari P3 at 20w but soon found that 25 - 30 watts on the kanger actually gave a better vape then I ever got from the Ruzgar. It was so nice getting into a tank that i could just replace a coil on every 10 days or so with out the hassle and have a great vape experience. Unfortunately my P3 fell short of the job so rather then back to mech i went with box mod. Your Ruzgar built at .2 or .3 will give you even better flavor then you were getting at the 1.2 or so that im guessing you ran it on your provari. The new Radius would do the job too but then again, so expensive. Im not trying to be an ... or stir the pot, ive just gone through alot of $$$ on provaris and have found from real life experience that they are not up to the task of making the most of what many tanks are capable of. I spent the $$$ cause I can afford it but see it as a mistake. I like to believe that you get what you pay for but in this case I just dont think thats the case when paying a premium for Provape products.
 

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There is only one juice I really like, it's been my ADV for 3+ years. I've vaped it in everything from cartos to drippers to bottom-feeders and in each one the taste changes - enough for me to pretend I like different flavors like all the cool kids. ;) I've found my happy place(s). And $$$? I've had horses for over 25 years. Vaping is peanuts.
 

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I'm still buying provaris - why? because I love the way they look, I love the way they vape and I know that if anything goes wrong they will be repaired and sent back to me as good as new. Yes there are downsides - the P3 and radius are way, way over spec for me, not as keen on the new displays and who needs 3 buttons? :) The opinion that a 0.3 coil at 75 watts (or whatever) is better than a 1.8 coil at 8.5 watts (or whatever) is just that - an opinion not a universal truth. The cost is really irrelevant- it is worth what someone is willing to pay for it - luckily there are options out there for all styles of vaping and all budgets. I'm coming up to 3 years cigarette free and I don't need anyone to tell me what I would prefer vape wise or how to spend my money - I'm an adult, I'm not stupid and I'm perfectly capable of making my own decisions. I have tried lots of different things and for me my provaris are worth every penny. I completely get they are not for everyone - in which case don't buy one - just like I won't buy a 100w device (unless it's so pretty I can't resist ;)). The specs are very clearly outlined on the website so it's not like it's a big surprise.
 

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... Any real vaper, who is in the know, that sees a Provari in hand doesnt even see it as a status thing, its like wearing a sign that says "KICK ME" on your back.
Is it really necessary to come into this forum and insult every member here? And who made you the final arbiter of all who is real?
 

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LOL, YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT! I did join 5.5 years ago and honestly forgot. Ive been vaping for about 7 years and when I joined I had just bought my first Provari. It worked and I really didnt have any questions or anything to add. Now years later and a ton of devices later I think I have a good sense of a wide variety of devices and I consider myself a sucker for buying the Provaris. They have always been pretty but sub functional compared to much less expensive devices out there. USA and quality materials attracted me and sucked me in but I never felt the Provaris worked better then the cheap SIGELEIs that I have. And when it comes to specs, the Sigeleis are more capable.
ZEN asked above why I paid 250 for a 179 mod. That was the release price for the P3 and the P2.5 release was even more expensive. I was an early adopter of both. When I saw that Provari was releasing the Radius I was prompted to throw in my 2 cents. Once again, a sub par product that will soon be out grown by even a casual user with less features and this time build quality then many other Cheaper boxes. I was just trying to make the point to people to not get stuck on the provari name because once upon a time it was considered the gold standard and for some reason Provape is still charging people double and triple the price of better devices. And ZEN, when your spending $$$$ on a Porsche its because its capable of doing things that not every other car can do, thats the point im making. Provape is charging Porsche prices for devices that dont do more and in many cases, less then a KIA. Any real vaper, who is in the know, that sees a Provari in hand doesnt even see it as a status thing, its like wearing a sign that says "KICK ME" on your back.
Addressing this directly I would say you obviously got your money's worth from the 2.5 if you got it 5.5 years (?) ago as at that time it could run any tank available. The P3 - I agree was a bit of a silly move - if you expected it to run tanks it couldn't you didn't do enough research beforehand, plus if you already felt the 2.5 was 'subfunctional' for your needs why would you buy a second provari? I'd say you weren't a sucker - you just didn't properly consider what your needs were and buy appropriately. Maybe you made the mistake of seeing it as a status symbol?
 

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OK, so I own a 2.5 and a 3.0. Both have been in for repairs and I was an early adopter to each so paid over $250.00 a piece for them. Both are now in working condition and have become closet queens that see ZERO use. There are far better devices selling in the $45.00 - $65.00 range and its actually embarrassing to be seen as the sucker that spent so much money on an ecig that offers nothing special and is limited in function at best. Not the new Provape Box Mod is out. 40watt, no temp setting, tiny little screen, plastic and the P3 threading with no options for tanks. And again $200.00!!!!!!! My latest device is the EVIC VTC Mini, direct competion for the new Provape box. BUT evic mini, all metal construction, magnetic battery door, 60w, temp setting, usb charging, beautiful large OLED screen, 3 button control thats intuitive. CAn be bought for under 50.00 for the device and around 80 as a starter kit with Charger and tank. Ive dropped it like 10 times and no damage. Ive never even dropped either the 2.5 or 3.0 and both have been repaired. NO WAY THE NEW PROVAPE BOX IS ON MY RADAR.
My mini has worked flawlessly for 3 years through drops, bumps, hot or cold weather, daily use and abuse. It's a work horse with a kayfun on it (and now with a kabuki) Do I sub ohm? Not until a couple weeks ago so I never needed anything other than my 2.? Had numerous asian made devices previous and all broke or fell apart eventually. Provari works better than a Marlboro red for me and that's what matters most.
 

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Is it really necessary to come into this forum and insult every member here? And who made you the final arbiter of all who is real?
It wasn't my intention to insult, I made the same mistake in spending way too much on nothing. I just wish some one had pointed it out to me when I was enamored with Provape.
 

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    Not many would admit it, but it sure seems portrayed that way. Especially in the early days.

    And I agree that walking into a modern vape shop with even the P3 would be a bit embarrassing. The Radius would look fine, but not 40W @ $200.

    Just learn from your lesson, OP. :)

    Maybe you made the mistake of seeing it as a status symbol?
     

    rondo777

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    I'm still buying provaris - why? because I love the way they look, I love the way they vape and I know that if anything goes wrong they will be repaired and sent back to me as good as new.
    Have you sent one in for repair yet. I have, its not a good experience and they fixed nothing for free. My P2.5 came with a stripped screw on the display and the entire board was loose withing a few weeks with no drops. Cost $40.00 to have repaired. The P3 never monitored the Battery accurately and I wrote to Provape (since there is no support phone) and in the days it took to get back to me I managed to have 2 batteries leak out in it. When it wen in for repair they wanted to hit me with $80.00 to repair. After numerous messages back and forth a rep finally called me. She felt for me and realized that I hadnt done anything to cause the problem and managed to get them to wave the cleaning fee and cost of the new board. So labor and shipping, $30.00. They should come back from repair good as new because for what they charge to repair you could walk into a vape shop and walk out with a new device. Provape customer service is simply non exsistant.
     

    rondo777

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    Not many would admit it, but it sure seems portrayed that way. Especially in the early days.

    And I agree that walking into a modern vape shop with even the P3 would be a bit embarrassing. The Radius would look fine, but not 40W @ $200.

    Just learn from your lesson, OP. :)
    Thank you :)
     

    kates

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    And I agree that walking into a modern vape shop with even the P3 would be a bit embarrassing.
    I think this is probably the difference between us - I'm not embarassed by anything I've purchased - I don't really care what anyone else thinks and I don't buy to impress other people. I just buy whatever suits my vape style best.
    Have you sent one in for repair yet.
    Never needed to, had my mini for over 2 years - and I've never heard of any mod causing leaking batteries so you must have been very unlucky.
     

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    Ive been vaping for about 7 years and when I joined I had just bought my first Provari. It worked and I really didnt have any questions or anything to add. Now years later and a ton of devices later I think I have a good sense of a wide variety of devices and I consider myself a sucker for buying the Provaris. They have always been pretty but sub functional compared to much less expensive devices out there. USA and quality materials attracted me and sucked me in but I never felt the Provaris worked better then the cheap SIGELEIs that I have. And when it comes to specs, the Sigeleis are more capable.
    ZEN asked above why I paid 250 for a 179 mod. That was the release price for the P3 and the P2.5 release was even more expensive. I was an early adopter of both.

    I am confused. How can one own a V2.5 ProVari since June 2010 when V1 didn't ship until October 2010 and V2 shipped in February 2012. Vape360 didn't even have one (V1) yet in October 2010 - https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/whoo-hoo.131026/#post-2055081

    Maybe we're all getting a little fuzzy on dates, including when other Provari-like VV devices hit the market. I can't find any Sigelei references to their first VV device - the Zmax - until November 2012.

    Pbusardo had trouble pronouncing the name of this company which was new to him at that time.

    I can certainly understand individual preferences in mods, but fairly accurate alternative VV devices didn't exist for a couple years after the ProVari was released. Even the 2.5 ProVari wasn't available until a couple years after 2010.

    Maybe the OP can clear this up.
     

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    OK, so I own a 2.5 and a 3.0. Both have been in for repairs and I was an early adopter to each so paid over $250.00 a piece for them. Both are now in working condition and have become closet queens that see ZERO use. There are far better devices selling in the $45.00 - $65.00 range and its actually embarrassing to be seen as the sucker that spent so much money on an ecig that offers nothing special and is limited in function at best. Not the new Provape Box Mod is out. 40watt, no temp setting, tiny little screen, plastic and the P3 threading with no options for tanks. And again $200.00!!!!!!! My latest device is the EVIC VTC Mini, direct competion for the new Provape box. BUT evic mini, all metal construction, magnetic battery door, 60w, temp setting, usb charging, beautiful large OLED screen, 3 button control thats intuitive. CAn be bought for under 50.00 for the device and around 80 as a starter kit with Charger and tank. Ive dropped it like 10 times and no damage. Ive never even dropped either the 2.5 or 3.0 and both have been repaired. NO WAY THE NEW PROVAPE BOX IS ON MY RADAR.

    so you've dropped your disposable eVic 10 times with no damage ... however, your 2 ProVaris broke without ever dropping them once?

    honestly, these ProVari bash threads are becoming less believable all the time :blink:

    the good news @rondo777 ... your ProVaris can still be sold :cool:

    Your latest and greatest device, the EVIC VTC Mini ... I wouldn't even give you $5 for it :smokie:

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    rondo777

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    I think this is probably the difference between us - I'm not embarassed by anything I've purchased - I don't really care what anyone else thinks and I don't buy to impress other people. I just buy whatever suits my vape style best.

    I didnt buy the Provaris to impress, I bought them mostly because at the time there weren't walk in shops available to me and with buying online I believed that buying an american made product at higher cost would pay off. NOw I cant throw a rock without hitting a vape shop and of the 6 within 5 miles of my house only one carries Provape, only 2 shops in the State carry them and we have hundreds of Great shops. The one Shop that carries Provape has every item in the store priced at least 20 - 30% higher then every other shop, is up tight about letting you sample flavors since they dont make Juice in house and the owner wears his P3 on his belt in a leather holster. Every other shop has a great vibe and people hanging out enjoying each others company, the provape dealer has an beautiful empty shop in a busy plaza.

    Never needed to, had my mini for over 2 years - and I've never heard of any mod causing leaking batteries so you must have been very unlucky.
    I just commented on another thread were the OP had the same issue with Battery not monitored correctly in the P3. The final comment was that many people have the same issue and that "it is what it is" Not for nearly $200.00 in my book. In over 7 years of vaping I have never fried a battery, only the 2 in the P3.
     

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    I just commented on another thread were the OP had the same issue with Battery not monitored correctly in the P3. The final comment was that many people have the same issue and that "it is what it is" Not for nearly $200.00 in my book. In over 7 years of vaping I have never fried a battery, only the 2 in the P3.
    I haven't read anywhere of batteries 'frying'. I have seen some problems with battery readings but that was resolved with the updated software. Still not sure why anyone would buy a second if they didn't feel the first was good value but at least you can sell them now they are working perfectly.
     
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    rondo777

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    so you've dropped your disposable eVic 10 times with no damage ... however, your 2 ProVaris broke without ever dropping them once?

    honestly, these ProVari bash threads are becoming less believable all the time :blink:
    Yes, not exaggerating. I have coveted the provaris as too nice to leave home. Im a bit .... about them and didnt want to see even a scratch on one. The provaris live on the coffee table and home use only. I simply have never dropped one and always had a cheaper mod for use out of the house. My current daily driver is a 2016 mazda mx5 miata. Love the car but absolutely no place to put anything. If im driving with a passenger then my mod sits on my lap. I have repeatedly gotten out of the car with my mod in my lap and bang, bounce of the pavement.
     

    rondo777

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    I am confused. How can one own a V2.5 ProVari since June 2010 when V1 didn't ship until October 2010 and V2 shipped in February 2012. Vape360 didn't even have one (V1) yet in October 2010 - https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/whoo-hoo.131026/#post-2055081

    Maybe we're all getting a little fuzzy on dates, including when other Provari-like VV devices hit the market. I can't find any Sigelei references to their first VV device - the Zmax - until November 2012.

    Pbusardo had trouble pronouncing the name of this company which was new to him at that time.
    I can certainly understand individual preferences in mods, but fairly accurate alternative VV devices didn't exist for a couple years after the ProVari was released. Even the 2.5 ProVari wasn't available until a couple years after 2010.

    Maybe the OP can clear this up.

    440BB is right, its been so long that I had forgotten my first Provari was the V1. I joined this forum when I first got it which was during pre release, as you guys can see I have been registered a long time. I may have even joined when I first ordered the V1 and was waiting for delivery. Sorry guys, got the timing off. Basically I have purchased All the Provaris in there very first offering dates. The V1 was a champ and I think I gave it to a friend when I got the 2.5. And again, your right about the Zmax, I purchased that right after getting the P2.5 to use as a knock around at work. I didnt want to toss my P2.5 around on a workbench with tools and stuff there to mare it up.
     
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