Kangertech Subtank-Plus

[underwhelmd]

It's not the battery you should be wondering about. It's the wattage of your APV device. If you use that 20W istick with the new Plus, you should be fine. I currently have it sitting on a sigelei 150W using the RBA section. My coil reads at .9 ohms..... and I have it set to 17W.

The OCC's that come with it vary. It says on the side about the wattage range. If I remember right, the .5 OCC is good to 30W according to Kanger. Others may pump it higher. Get a dry hit, turn the wattage down.

This is just WRONG, BAD ADVICE. A 20w iStick is not suitable to use with this tank. It can't operate with the .5 coils and even with the 1.2 coils it will burn them out much sooner than a properly regulated power source.

Even the 30w goes through 1.2 ohm OCC coils faster than any other device we have here. Burns them out sooner. (as tested against Cloupor mini, IPV mini and others)

It's time people admitted the iStick isn't the best thing since sliced bread. MOST of the problems people post about in this forum are directly related to using an iStick with their tank. Please get yourself a good quality device and you will enjoy your vape with your new tank so much more.

 

[nic_fix]

okay I took care of this. I was just polite. I said you know what I have spent here, do you want that to continue or stop? he gave another and said I was breaking him. then I spent more right then. I said you just made it up be cool. then he said it's alright.

mine was obviously way busted. the new one screws silky smooth and no leak I can tell.

I might be odd but I am running 560f@35w. I know that is more than most people. lot's of clouds. not hot. kicks it to 18-21w anyway. istick is not enough even for .5 imo. you should not max it out. plus it will be just too big. bigger than the istick.

I am really sorry about this saga I brought here. I had no idea what was going on. now it is how it should be. I am happy you guys did not get mad.

 

[Mark1963]

This is just WRONG, BAD ADVICE. A 20w iStick is not suitable to use with this tank. It can't operate with the .5 coils and even with the 1.2 coils it will burn them out much sooner than a properly regulated power source.

Even the 30w goes through 1.2 ohm OCC coils faster than any other device we have here. Burns them out sooner. (as tested against Cloupor mini, IPV mini and others)

It's time people admitted the iStick isn't the best thing since sliced bread. MOST of the problems people post about in this forum are directly related to using an iStick with their tank. Please get yourself a good quality device and you will enjoy your vape with your new tank so much more.

Sad to inform you, but I happen to have a Subtank Mini sitting on my iStick 30W and I have it set to 24W using a .5 OCC coil. When I posted my message, I was using the RBA at .9 ohms. I've been doing this since the day I got it (Feb. 2) and have had absolutely no issues. My coils (.5 and 1.2's) have all lasted. In fact, I'm on my second coil.

So how is this possible? Invaders from Mars?

 

[Rizzyking]

I have a sigelei 50w and the istick 50w and coils last equally on both and on rba section also equally good so while the istick may not be the greatest it is a perfectly viable device that for the vast majority of vapers will be more then they ever need or want. Seen a few people have problems with the original rba section dismantling it and the answer is really simple if it's stuck boil a kettle put the rba into a bowl pour water over leave for five minutes and then using little force unscrew it the force part is important as I found the harder you went at it the less success you have.

 

[underwhelmd]

I have a sigelei 50w and the istick 50w

he said 20w iStick. not 50. that's a different beast altogether.

I have a 20 and a 30 here. they both burn out 1.2 ohm coils in the subtank faster than my other mods. so my opinion is they are both JUNK.

 

[underwhelmd]

Sad to inform you, but I happen to have a Subtank Mini sitting on my iStick 30W and I have it set to 24W using a .5 OCC coil.

I was talking about 1.2 ohm coils as you were. Not the .5 don't change the subject. your advice was bad. a 20w iStick isn't fit to drive a subtank. it's junk compared to properly regulated boxes.


Just because you THINK it's great, doesn't mean it is. maybe you should take the blinders off. what are you comparing it to?

 

[Mark1963]

I was talking about 1.2 ohm coils as you were. Not the .5 don't change the subject. your advice was bad. a 20w iStick isn't fit to drive a subtank. it's junk compared to properly regulated boxes.


Just because you THINK it's great, doesn't mean it is. maybe you should take the blinders off. what are you comparing it to?

If the 20W isn't fit to drive the 1.2 coils, then how can I run those coils on the 30W iStick? I don't even go over 20W on that with those coils.

Just because you think they're junk doesn't mean they are. Right? Goes both ways.

What do I have to compare them to? I have a Sigelei 150W, iStick 30W, iStick 50W, a Provari, and an iTaste SVD 2.0
With all of them, I have had no problems burning out the .5 or 1.2 ohm OCC's. Of course, I don't run those coils on the Provari.

 

[Rizzyking]

Istick 20 is and has for quite a while been known to run hot and that the best thing is to go by taste not what the screen says so if someone hasn't found that out then user error to be honest as it's hardly a difficult thing to find out. It wasn't the better then anything performance that made people rave about the original istick it was the form factor and price which when taking them into account the performance was also very good and apart from the 510 connection problems for a while other things were easily worked around. These days of course no one really recommends the 20 as the 30 and 50 offer a better fuller package so if someone is very unhappy with the 20 bin it and buy something else no one is forced to use it.

 

[vincom]

istick 30w x2 on rba of stmini x2, .05 & .07 ohms for over 2 months and i havent burnt out a coil yet.
20-30mls of juice/day betwen 15w to 25w

 

[mamabear15]

This is just WRONG, BAD ADVICE. A 20w iStick is not suitable to use with this tank. It can't operate with the .5 coils and even with the 1.2 coils it will burn them out much sooner than a properly regulated power source.

Even the 30w goes through 1.2 ohm OCC coils faster than any other device we have here. Burns them out sooner. (as tested against Cloupor mini, IPV mini and others)

It's time people admitted the iStick isn't the best thing since sliced bread. MOST of the problems people post about in this forum are directly related to using an iStick with their tank. Please get yourself a good quality device and you will enjoy your vape with your new tank so much more.

Not quite true... I've got an iStick 30 and a Cloupor T8, I see similar results in both with my Subtank Mini. I think you might be, for lack of a better term, "blaming" the 30 for the sins of its little brother the 20

 

[nic_fix]

okay I have all the subtanks. they are all leaking all over. I know this is unique to me. I heeded your advice. I don't understand what I could possibly be doing wrong. I am sorry I made a nuisance of my self and would be elated if anyone tried to help me. I am really bummed because the thing is superior. it is not like I can call kanger. even on Skype I am not sure they will understand. I am just really disappointed in myself and don't get this. I will try bringing it to a shop and see if the kid that is much smarter than me can figure it out. can't get there for a bit though. look guys, I did not mean to be a jerk I am just very puzzled.

 

[Rizzyking]

Sorry nic fix I'm not sure there's anything else we can offer perhaps if someone lives close to you could help other then that only other I can suggest is watch some of the many YouTube videos on the subtank and hopefully spot what your doing wrong hope you get it sorted and good luck.

 

[Mark1963]

okay I have all the subtanks. they are all leaking all over. I know this is unique to me. I heeded your advice. I don't understand what I could possibly be doing wrong. I am sorry I made a nuisance of my self and would be elated if anyone tried to help me. I am really bummed because the thing is superior. it is not like I can call kanger. even on Skype I am not sure they will understand. I am just really disappointed in myself and don't get this. I will try bringing it to a shop and see if the kid that is much smarter than me can figure it out. can't get there for a bit though. look guys, I did not mean to be a jerk I am just very puzzled.

Check your o-ring on the base (where the coil is attached). It might be in the wrong way. That happened to me once. It goes in one way. The other way, it'll leak.

 

[nic_fix]

well, well. I read all this loosey goosey business. you guys mentioned it too. I cranked that bad Oscar like a man and no drip on 4 hours! I mean I did not strip it but I hit it solid. I know that goes against all wisdom but it seems to have worked. phew. I think it is because what I thought everyone meant is like the glass not even touching the metal. that was the idea I had. I tend to take instructions literally.

I also wanted to say the 7ml is great but the mini just fits 22mm mods better obviously. if performance is the only option let it overhang. it left marks on hana though. it is just bigger than the well so it scratched the corners. either one is awesome the mini on the shark is a little guy that packs a big punch.

I really am glad you guys did not get mad at me. I know I was being a pain. I was just so bummed. I knew these did not leak.

 

[nic_fix]

not fixed! argh. it is pouring out the 510 pin. could someone please explain or post a pic of where the washer on the base for the coil is? that is it. I cannot get to it and don't even see it. doubt I reversed it either. that is all there is left. thank you

edit: there is no o-ring down in the afc base where the cartridge screws in. the O-rings are on the cartridge. it is pouring out of the pin. if I remove the pin the tank drains in 20 seconds. I hope that can help to diagnose what is wrong. how is it that I have 3 that do this out of the package. I saw mentioned reverse the oring inside the base at the pin but I see none. it appears there is nothing to stop the liquid from going right through the cartridge. that can't be possible. I am sorry this is not over I hope you guys will try to help now that I know where it is leaking. .I will try to bring it to a shop but I think some here know much more than them. I do not see what stops the juice from going right out the pin. when I find that I will know what is going on.

 

[TriStar]

Hey guys, I have a Subtank Nano (which I love), and am looking to buy either a Mini or a Plus (they're the same price). I have an iStick 50w -- do you guys (and gals) think the Plus would look stupid on it? Would it be too big? Also, would it be impractical to travel with?

Thanks in advance for the input. This thread has been immensely helpful / insightful.

 

[TriStar]

Quick question....so any battery 30W and up should be ok with this tanks, right? I'll be using the rebuilt coils, not the RBA. (And obviously the higher W battery the better). Any suggestions on reliable batteries? I'm a newb here considering I'm coming from a nautilus mini and a 20W istick. I honestly just want a bigger tanks that produces more flavor.

The iStick 20 would suffice, but I'd recommend even a minor upgrade to the iStick 30w, as the stock OCC coils are rated at 15 - 30w (0.5ohm), although they also come with a 1.2ohm coil.

I personally opted to go with the iStick 50w, not because I need or even have any use for the extra wattage necessarily, but because of the amazing battery life of the iStick 50w (4400 mAh). Vaping 15 - 20w for several hours per day leads to about 4 days per charge. Couldn't be happier in that regard.

*Edit: whoops, saw you decided to go with the iStick 50w later on in page 8 ... good choice!

 

[TriStar]

Thanks for the answers guys! One more question. Should I order the extra coils as 1.2 or .5? I'm not too sure. I will also be getting the iStick 50w if that makes a difference

I too have the 50w and I prefer the 0.5 ohm coils, although it'll largely depend on your vaping habits when it comes to deciding which OCC coils are right for you.

 

[TriStar]

Mod(s), please delete this post if / when you see it. I had something else to say, but I didn't realize how many consecutive posts I had on this thread and I don't want to be perceived as spamming. Thank you very much.

 

[nic_fix]

don't feel bad. I wore out my welcome worse than you. btw, it still leaks! if I could just figure out where the gasket is in the bottom of the afc. this is nuts.