E cig explosion in Texas - guy dies

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Or due to regulation....;)
Why safer vaping devices that don't explode will not be available in the U.S.

Yeah, but you can't fix or even safeguard stupid-use with mechs. The low-ohm mech craze won't even allow the old-time fuses. They used to make those back when we used sane ohms; remember vape-safe fuses? But now, IDK of any that would work for "sub-ohm" mech vaping.

And the FDA is in the way of standards and new-tech. "...the agency has taken several steps"....bull----.
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Yep...it's one of these i think but only runs up to 12 watts :) A similar device that runs at higher loads would be good but then again would cause a lot of voltage drop.

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Yep...it's one of these i think but only runs up to 12 watts :) A similar device that runs at higher loads would be good but then again would cause a lot of voltage drop.

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That one, my friend, is a booster/regulator not a fuse. It's internal circuitry that gives a mech VV tech. Probably has safety features though too.

They made simple fuses too. So the vape-safe fuse would blow if you had a coil short, disconnecting the circuit before the battery overloaded.
 

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That one, my friend, is a booster/regulator not a fuse. It's internal circuitry that gives a mech VV tech. Probably has safety features though too.

They made simple fuses too. So the vape-safe fuse would blow if you had a coil short, disconnecting the circuit before the battery overloaded.
Yep this has got a fail safe fuse also as far as I know...it's this type of thing though for sure.
 

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I never bought a genuine mech, but played around with an 18350 box mod that was technically a cheapo mech device. I still have it, but found that eGo and other devices with more evolved technology were more to my liking back in 2009-2010 and forward. Of course, there weren't many highly evolved devices back then.

There are some beautiful mech devices out there in the marketplace, but I'm more of a techy than a minimalist vaper. I want bells and whistles, a good vape, and electronics that sense and intervene when there's an overcurrent condition.

Any device that can't shut down when the fire button is accidentally pressed in a pocket has no place in modern pocket carry vaping, IMO. Those need to be set on a table between vapes, not stored on the body where you can't move away when the fire button sticks.
 

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Or due to regulation....;)
Why safer vaping devices that don't explode will not be available in the U.S.

Yeah, but you can't fix or even safeguard stupid-use with mechs. The low-ohm mech craze won't even allow the old-time fuses. They used to make those back when we used sane ohms; remember vape-safe fuses? But now, IDK of any that would work for "sub-ohm" mech vaping.

And the FDA is in the way of standards and new-tech. "...the agency has taken several steps"....bull----.
:2c:

Of course it would work in sub-ohm. Fuses are rated in Amps as are batteries. You would use a fuse at or just below the Amp rating of your batteries. Then if you tried to pull more than that, the fuse would blow saving your a.. Now it would not be good for those people that like to live dangerously and pull a bit more than the battery specs safely allow but it would keep them off of the news.
 

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Of course it would work in sub-ohm. Fuses are rated in Amps as are batteries. You would use a fuse at or just below the Amp rating of your batteries. Then if you tried to pull more than that, the fuse would blow saving your a.. Now it would not be good for those people that like to live dangerously and pull a bit more than the battery specs safely allow but it would keep them off of the news.
Well, they don't make em for vapers that I know of. And I doubt at such low ohms that they'd be sensitive enough and/or robust enough and/or they'd reduce current (they are resistors of a sort). Whatever the reason, can you point at one? Do they make them? To my understanding...no.

Remember the low-ohm craze is about (as you know) delivering those amps to the coil. I would think after a certain point it's a catch 22. So after a certain point, they'd reduce the ohms even more to get more amps to overcome the fuse resistance, which would blow the fuse.

Just :2c:.

Just because you can make a fuse for any amp threshold doesn't mean that you can deliver all of it to the coil. As I understand it. There's probably some formula for practical limits on amps and watts and fuse design.
 
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@AttyPops There is this device. Bug Safety Fuse by Atmizoo - MyVaporStore I have no idea how well it performs, but it has received 5/5 stars in user reviews. It may not fit in all mods. Only $18, and today is the first time I've seen it actually in stock.

Authentic Bug Safety Fuse by Atmizoo
Made in Greece

Based around a resettable PTC element, the Bug is a high-amp short-circuit protection module that adds dependable safety to mechanical mods.

Specifications

  • Over-current / short-circuit protection module based around a replaceable, low-voltage-drop polymeric fuse.
  • Short-profile 5mm construction, ideal for use with springless, mechanical telescopic mods.
  • Silver-plated contacts for the best possible performance.
  • Compatible with all mods, side- or bottom-activated.
  • It can be used with atomizer resistances down to 0.6 Ohms.
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Things that can go bump in the night…any "regulated" device you've ever dropped, struck or otherwise mistreated.

Stop trashing mechs for God's sake.

The highest regrettable probability in this case is user error (depression of fire button on insertion into the cup holder).

The best safeguard for vapers and the public at large are communities like this one. Precisely what government, commerce and the media attack at every opportunity.

The best tool is not to be one. Rebuild vaping communion.

Good luck. :)
 

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Things that can go bump in the night…any "regulated" device you've ever dropped, struck or otherwise mistreated.

Stop trashing mechs for God's sake.

The highest regrettable probability in this case is user error (depression of fire button on insertion into the cup holder).

The best safeguard for vapers and the public at large are communities like this one. Precisely what government, commerce and the media attack at every opportunity.

The best tool is not to be one. Rebuild vaping communion.

Good luck. :)

Except that people are ... well ... human. They are going to make mistakes. A minor "user error" shouldn't result in death.
 

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I’m really going to need a link to show the statistics that 98% and 98%+ are mech related.
E-Cigarette Explosions: Comprehensive List
There have been 50 major incidents this year (2016) alone and that's just the ones which make the news. They also go on to say...
"It is interesting to note that the nature of e-cigarette explosions has changed over the years. The FEMA document cited above suggests that approximately 80 percent of e-cigarette explosions happen during charging. In addition, most e-cigarette explosions that occurred before early 2015 involved no reported injuries. However, people began to experience different types of e-cigarette explosions when sub-ohm vaping and mods with removable batteries became more popular. More than ever, e-cigarettes explode during use. Explosions resulting from people carrying spare batteries in their pockets are also far more common. Regardless of the circumstances, e-cigarette explosions are far more likely to cause injuries today than they were in the past."Tobacco Truth: E-Cigarette Battery Hazards Minuscule and Overblown
 
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If the shop doesn't sell unregulated devices I don't see any responsibility for what happened. Ideally they explained why they don't sell them and warned him about the risks but they aren't required to. There's a good chance this shop, maybe the entire chain, gets vilified and shuts down over a product they had nothing to do with.
Sadly you are likely right which is why they are not talking.
 

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I know vaping has saved my life and continues to do so and I just don't seem to need a mech mod to prove it.

Although if the government takes on all of vaping I will learn to use a mech mod safely if and when I have to. I will also prohibit my family from like, contacting the press, doing an autopsy etc. (I realize it's not totally up to me) but if a mod takes me out of this world, I will beg my family to say it was ANYTHING else.

Like, my Joan of Arc sword did it to me as a bunch of villagers put me on a bunch of kindling. Whatever. Not the vape.

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I do not own a mech mod, mainly because I enjoy the regulated mods. My bfriend has a mech, no idea what it is. Used to be red, now it's faded pink! He still uses it, and it has a built in fuse. He does all repair work on it himself. I don't trust a mech, thus I won't buy one!

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The owner is really nice - they did not sell him anything .... they did see him briefly and then boom! I gave him some links to my blogs so he does not think I am a nutjob.

He made a point of saying that they are not hiding anything.
May I remind everyone here, we vapers all look like nut jobs to those who still think cigarettes and tobacco are "cool"! Not only have I had smokers cuss me out, but I've had non smokers/vapers cuss me out! One little old granny told me I should know better than to be polluting the air! (She was smoking a horrid stogie!)

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One little old granny told me I should know better than to be polluting the air! (She was smoking a horrid stogie!)

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Scarily insular and misinformed :shock: Or maybe just a nasty person...never forget all of those appallingly badly brought up people become little old ladies and kindly old men :D
 

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Except that people are ... well ... human. They are going to make mistakes. A minor "user error" shouldn't result in death.

Can't disagree Scott. In life quite often minor errors at precisely the inappropriate time yield catastrophic results. We can't be ignorant of the potentials and get a pass.

Case in point…How many of us actually use the pwr switch on our reg mods? Or locks on mech's for that matter?

In a perfect world gov, bureaucrats and media wouldn't dismiss the important impact of our community either. That regrettably is more than a minor error. Rather, the assurance of failure.

Good luck. :)
 
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