The e-liquid we produce has SGS report to show it meets the requirement of MSDS, is it safe to pass the customs of USA?
Dose anybody know of that?
Thanks.
Dose anybody know of that?
Thanks.
customs-clearance of e-liquid
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The e-liquid we produce has SGS report to show it meets the requirement of MSDS, is it safe to pass the customs of USA?
Dose anybody know of that?
Thanks.
The USA has not yet banned e-cigs or juice. I see no reason why Customs would stop importation at this time. My e-juice orders are coming through OK.
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Souds you are the lucky guy, it's said there is 5% to be held up by customs to buy e-cig from China. If you purchase e-liquid alone, it will be totally held up there.
PLEASE SHOW ME HOW YOU COME TO THOSE NUMBERS.
Guys there are very few shipments being seized right now. Yes there are some but its only a handful. Everyone would know if there is a ban on this stuff. PS, Njoy, L7, SE would be taken off the shelves if this was the case.
I had two seperate shipments of liquid from eastmall.net and never had any problems. When i tracked it, it must've stayed in customs for a whopping total of a day.
This information from courier agent in China. They said less and less e-cig shipped to USA cause of customs. Our orders haven't been held up by customs by now, except one sample is still in transit for nealy over week.
My orders from eastmall have had no problems getting through customs. They may sit there for a day or two. I usually get my liquid (100 ml 35mg) within 6 to 7 business days. Hardware was the same with my e-cigar. I sometimes get my product faster through China (EMS) than suppliers here in the U.S. Hate to say it but it is true. It does not appear that the packages have been opened.
you know, I've got a friend who is a manager for UPS in Kansas City. He manages the ups international stuff that comes into KCI. I had a good long talk with him and he frequently manages their internal customs. He says that packages go through the UPS customs and then federal "samples" a percentage of those packages. He said that he has NOT received any order to refuse electronic cigarettes yet and suspects that it's simply a case of mislabeling. He did have a few suggestions. Anything liquid is supposed to be flagged and checked at customs. anything with tobacco on the label will be scrutinized. His suggestion after I explained the whole thing was to declare the equipment as "Small Electronic Vaporizers" and "Small Rechargeable Li-Ion Batteries". His suggestion for the liquid was "Tobacco Essential Oil for Personal Use, non-hazardous, environmentally safe". Apparently that would not raise an eyebrow at all in his office. He says that the less you put on there, the more you raise risk of inspection and/or seizure simply due to the fact that they don't know what it is and have to call various dept to clear materials. He says that from what it sounds, a lot of the actual containers have little to no info on the, so if they don't know what you are declaring and contents of box does not make that clear, it will be held until figured out, sent back or seized.
Hope that's a help to everyone, going to start getting some bulk orders myself and see what happens. Seems like pretty logical advice really. He said that anything with tobacco in name will get flagged because it is illegal to import tobacco without specific permits and such, personal use is fine. I asked him what would happen if they saw a business name as recipient and he said it wouldn't change things. They can't know whether it is for a pass thru company or to actually sell. Who it is sent to or amount really isn't their problem. Big bulk orders of tobacco may be flagged to police but will still get passed if properly labeled.He said it is a tax issue and they follow up if necessary. Our liquid is currently legal so no worries with that. I think that people are trying to "get around" or blatantly mislabel to get around customs which is causing problem. I'm sure that they would have sent some literature or a mandate to UPS International staff if this stuff was actually supposed to be rejected. That very well may change in future but as of now, all this stuff is legal to import.
Hope that's a help to everyone, going to start getting some bulk orders myself and see what happens. Seems like pretty logical advice really. He said that anything with tobacco in name will get flagged because it is illegal to import tobacco without specific permits and such, personal use is fine. I asked him what would happen if they saw a business name as recipient and he said it wouldn't change things. They can't know whether it is for a pass thru company or to actually sell. Who it is sent to or amount really isn't their problem. Big bulk orders of tobacco may be flagged to police but will still get passed if properly labeled.He said it is a tax issue and they follow up if necessary. Our liquid is currently legal so no worries with that. I think that people are trying to "get around" or blatantly mislabel to get around customs which is causing problem. I'm sure that they would have sent some literature or a mandate to UPS International staff if this stuff was actually supposed to be rejected. That very well may change in future but as of now, all this stuff is legal to import.
My order of e-liquids was not held up, but contained the following on the slip:
ATOMIZER 1PCS USD25 CHINA
lol. Yeah, I bet that's why those few orders are refused. Was it a liquid only order? I'm getting more and more convinced the more I read what these manufacturers and distributors that the few nabbed or held up orders were marked incorrectly.
there have also been ones denied entry that were marked ecig, ecigarette, or electronic cigarette.
It was 2 50ml bottles of 24mg tasteless e-liquid and nothing else.
Could be, but not necessarily in EVERY case!
Yeah, I bet. My friend said that if it had cigarette in declaration, he would assume tobacco of some kind and if he could not identify contents, back to holding for identification or refusal. He doesn't smoke and was pretty curious when I was showing him my PV and liquid. He even let me vape in his car while going to lunch. He was very amused and impressed that there was no smell and vapor byproduct dissapated so quickly. He said he hasn't seen anything like that or been asked anything about something like that yet. Again, He works for UPS and deals with UPS International orders. I have no idea how the federal works. I would have to assume it is the same regulations. He also said he would try to get a # for someone to get an official interview setup with a UPS International customs agent and/or a federal customs agent as well...... we'll see if that actually goes anywhere. I have lots of questions which are non-PV related as well.
From what I got talking with him. "For Personal Use" and identification of liquid as non hazardous and environmentally safe would be positive things to include if he were inspecting a package.
And that's the problem I foresee, at least with the e-liquids. 60 mg of nicotine is poison and will kill an adult. 24-36 might not be enough to kill and adult, but could well kill a pet or a child. That would be the excuse used to justify a ban of the importation of e-liquids, I would think. Wont someone PLEASE think of the CHILDREN who could DIE from drinking these liquids!
^ that's why I put warning labels on bottles and include a child resistant vial for keeping the bottle in. Even though it's up to the vendors to warn of the hazard, it's ultimately up to the parents to store in a safe place and to keep it away from their kids.
Hmmmm.... nice hijack Werkit. I'm sure there are many other threads that would love to discuss the responsibilities of parents these days but It would be nice to keep this on topic. Nicotine in a diluted form is not considered hazardous material to customs as far as I can find so far. Many bio-safe vegetable insecticides use it in much more concentrated forms. In fact, I'm thinking of a marketing scheme that promotes unflavored nic juice for a "safe" indoor veggie or herb pesticide (not for human consumption, of course) and sell PV's with homeopathic herb essences diluted in PG and VG and Lorann's flavorings. That's a free tip if this stuff becomes "Illegal". There are always ways to bend the rules. It's ultimately up to the consumer what they actually do with product. It will then be declared as Tobacco essential oil, non hazardous, environmentally safe, organic pesticide not for human consumption, heh. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Uncle Sam.
Ok, ok. I strayed off topic a bit there too. But it did start and end with customs related content, right?
There are always ways to bend the rules. It's ultimately up to the consumer what they actually do with product. It will then be declared as Tobacco essential oil, non hazardous, environmentally safe, organic pesticide not for human consumption, heh. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Uncle Sam.Ok, ok. I strayed off topic a bit there too. But it did start and end with customs related content, right?
This may be something to keep in mind with bulk orders containing batteries. Looks like there is an amendment that takes effect Oct 1, 2009 on packaging and labeling of bulk boxes of lithium batteries. http://www.ultralifebatteries.com/d...ithium_Battery_Transportation_Regulations.pdf
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