The Mods and people Who KNOW me are shocked I have avoided posting in this thread for so long. I am a strong Anti Provari crusader for many reasons. No One, no one to me has Ever justified the price is not just a huge markup over a reasonable profit markup. Take a the 20 dollar end cap for instance. I have machined stainless steel for years. I can easily buy SS in bulk like they do and make that end cap by hand, the expensive way and sell it for 9 bucks making a large profit. These guys are making at least twice as much profit.. and that's getting over 100 % of your of your cost back and making a 75% profit on top of that. That's just Bad business. I am a sheet metal worker. Don't tell me you have to charge 20 dollars for that cheesy end cap, and, I don't have the buying power the manufacturer does.. they can get it for much cheaper and make it for much less.
The other issue is that all the components the Provari use also come from China. They are only assembled in the USA as far as I know. Are their components really better than the Lava Tube components? Possibly Yes, but.. does this justify the price? I say No. sadly, Provape wont tell you where all the parts come from or what they pay for them, so they can stop anyone from examining them too closely just because they have a great product.
If you want a true comparison of the Provari and Lavatube find out who makes all the parts of each and their rated specs. No one has done this. Both companies are gutless cowards for not giving us the consumers this information.
I haven't even mentioned the very bad design of the Provari menu system or the very ugly 60's style design.
Simply put the provari may be a better mod in the long run but the price is not justified unless those things are known. I believe the Provape company are a bunch of thieves. Please don't tell me no company has a right to disclose to the public the parts they use or the price they pay for them. Companies have been taken to court over this issue many times before - you simply cannot charge anything you want - you can make a profit with a large mark up within reason yes, but that mark up has a cap on it under fair market value laws. I do not believe Provape is following these laws and so far they have gotten away with their thievery. I challenge anyone to prove me different by actually finding the costs Provape pays for these parts and assembling them. I bet Volcanoecigs could make (contract out of stainless steel and better components) a better Provari clone and only have to charge at most 40 to 50 dollars more. ( still under 100 dollars) This would put the Provari thieves in their humble place.
Gimme a break. I just paid 62 dollars for a Provari clone called a LavaTube ( has all the same functionality save one, the ohms meter) and it can be made much better than it is. Volcanoecigs made MONEY on this unit. You gonna tell me the Provari people list the official price at 200 dollars BUT ALWAYS give a ongoing sale price of 159.95 ?? People.. that's a come-on. Retailers do it all the time to get top dollar. They are still making a Killing on that price because 159.95 has a huge markup !
It mattes not that the unit is rock solid ( to some) and is the best performing VV, those people are still being taken for a ride because Provape can get away with it.
If I'm wrong and Provape can prove it, and this post hurts their business, let them sue me in Court. That's how sure I am that I am right. They won't do that for many reasons.. but mostly because they know they will lose. Wait and see.
