I see Ruyan and Janty being mixed up a bit on quite a few occasions on this board. Very understandably so, no mistake: but not good for avoiding misunderstandings, I think... Understandable, seeing that Ludo USED to sell both Janty and Ruyan (and, to make it worse, made an account on this board by the name of Ruyan at the time too)... but the names, persons and products are really different things... V8, throw-away cigar, Bling... those are Ruyans. Kiss (including titanium), Janty-classic, Yentle-Kiss and Yentle: those are Janty. Ruyan-cartridges are Ruyan, except the Ruyan number 4... thóse are Janty... (who says I don't understand
why people are mixing them up, lol). All Janty-cartridges are Janty.
Ludo used to be 'mister Ruyan and mister Janty'. Nowadays he is 'mr. Janty'
only, is not associated with Ruyan anymore.
Just saying this to get and keep things clear, because that's what is needed to not misunderstand each other... not meant as remarks at anyone in particuar...