What should we call a glass rebuildable tank that comes with OCC coils? Clearomizer? Glassomizer?

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This is an interesting take on the subject, and I understand where you're coming from. It's actually the first time I've heard the term clearo-tank? How did the term clearo-tank come about?

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People have taken to calling the first real tanks, carto tanks.

This refers to their method of wicking.

Im not sure who first coined the term clearo-tank but its a more accurate appellation than simply "tank" because it also refers to how these devices wick.

And thats important because some juices and juice blends work better in different devices.

Cartos seem to work better than most clearomizers with thicker juices, because they have more surface area to absorb the liquid. Its also been my experience that they provide more flavor.....unless you have a specially tuned clearomizer tank like the Kabuki.

Then you have the rebuildable tank atomizers like the Lemo, the Kayfun etc etc which combine the best of both worlds.

Im not a fan of the word tank because its too general a term.

Its like the word "vehicle"

Yes, it describes a wide range of equipment used for transportation but there is a world of difference between a helicopter and a minibike.
 

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I've read alot on this subject, and there still seems to be alot of linguistic confusion here.

What should you accurately call a glass and stainless steel tank atomizer that comes with replaceable organic cotton coils that thread onto the chimney? I see alot of people refer to them as RTA's but this makes zero sense to me as half of them aren't rebuildable at all, and the OTHER half that are require the purchase of a specialty RBA coil head that screws onto the chimney to rebuild them and even these don't have decks with posts/postholes? Calling a glass and steel tank atomizer like the joyetech cubis an "RTA" makes absolutely ZERO SENSE to me, so why does everyone keep doing it?

IMHO the most accurate description for this type of tank should be 'glassomizer' as it was the all glass and steel aspire nautilus that first/originally came out with this type of top threaded non-silica wick coil head (originally using silica or ceramic type wool material and later updating to organic cotton, making these OCC coils popular?) Wasn't the aspire nautilus technically a 'glassomizer' guys? Or do I have my history and nomenclature wrong?

Now it could also be argued that an OCC coil head is basically a mini cartomizer as a cartomizer is basically a vertical metal tube with an often vertical coil in the center surrounded by cotton or polyfil, and so a joyetech cubis could be called a cartotank more accurately than it could be called an RTA, but I think glassomizer makes more sense, doesn't it?

What do you guys think about this? Why do people keep calling these types of tanks RTA's and throwing them under the RBA category as well?

I've even heard people refer to these type of OCC coil head tanks as clearomizers which makes about as much sense as calling it an RTA....

anyone want to chime in and clear this up for me?

Thanks!
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Call it a PV.
 

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I just say tank, RTA or RBA. With current technology there isn't really any need to differentiate beyond that IMO

I wouldnt say that.

Try one bottle of juice in three different delivery systems

Put one in a carto tank

The other in a nautilus tank

And the third in a rebuildable tank atomizer

You will notice a difference between the three
 
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OK! Time for my:2c:! I started vaping with a cigalike just over a year ago, then I went to an ego style tank using +1ohm coils. after that I got an Aerotank which used the same coils! Then I got a Sub-tank mini with an RBA (non specific Rebuildable Base? Atomizer). After that I bought a Mutation X V4 RDA(very specific Rebuildable Dripping Atomizes). Finally I got a Mutation MT RebuildableTank Atomizer (again very specific)!
So from My experience IMHO
Atomizing devices should have the following names;
RDA=REBUILDABLE DRIPPING ATOMIZER
RTA=REBUILDABLE TANK ATOMIZER
PCTA=PREMADE COIL TANK ATOMIZER
As far as RBA IDK! But I do know that I could run one in my PCTA!
I know i have no idea what a Cartomizer or Clearomizer is but I'm sure they're some kind of ATOMIZER!:headbang:


P.S. Let the hating begin! LOL!
 
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OK! Time for my:2c:! I started vaping with a cigalike just over a year ago, then I went to an ego style tank using +1ohm coils. after that I got an Aerotank which used the same coils! Then I got a Sub-tank mini with an RBA (non specific Rebuildable Base? Atomizer). After that I bought a Mutation X V4 RDA(very specific Rebuildable Dripping Atomizes). Finally I got a Mutation MT RebuildableTank Atomizer (again very specific)!
So from My experience IMHO
Atomizing devices should have the following names;
RDA=REBUILDABLE DRIPPING ATOMIZER
RTA=REBUILDABLE TANK ATOMIZER
PCTA=PREMADE COIL TANK ATOMIZER

You missed one:

RDTA = Rebuildable dripping tank atomizer.

Never found a tank I liked until I spent some time with one of these :2cool:

As far as RBA IDK! But I do know that I could run one in my PCTA!
RBA = Rebuildable atomizer. RBA isn't used much anymore in referring to atties since the invention of so many different types of rebuildables.
 

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I've read alot on this subject, and there still seems to be alot of linguistic confusion here.

What should you accurately call a glass and stainless steel tank atomizer that comes with replaceable organic cotton coils that thread onto the chimney? I see alot of people refer to them as RTA's but this makes zero sense to me as half of them aren't rebuildable at all, and the OTHER half that are require the purchase of a specialty RBA coil head that screws onto the chimney to rebuild them and even these don't have decks with posts/postholes? Calling a glass and steel tank atomizer like the joyetech cubis an "RTA" makes absolutely ZERO SENSE to me, so why does everyone keep doing it?

IMHO the most accurate description for this type of tank should be 'glassomizer' as it was the all glass and steel aspire nautilus that first/originally came out with this type of top threaded non-silica wick coil head (originally using silica or ceramic type wool material and later updating to organic cotton, making these OCC coils popular?) Wasn't the aspire nautilus technically a 'glassomizer' guys? Or do I have my history and nomenclature wrong?

Now it could also be argued that an OCC coil head is basically a mini cartomizer as a cartomizer is basically a vertical metal tube with an often vertical coil in the center surrounded by cotton or polyfil, and so a joyetech cubis could be called a cartotank more accurately than it could be called an RTA, but I think glassomizer makes more sense, doesn't it?

What do you guys think about this? Why do people keep calling these types of tanks RTA's and throwing them under the RBA category as well?

I've even heard people refer to these type of OCC coil head tanks as clearomizers which makes about as much sense as calling it an RTA....

anyone want to chime in and clear this up for me?

Thanks!
GEM
Clearomizer.
 
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RTA would be a tank that has the ability to rebuild via an optional rebuildable deck but still has OCC coils available like the TFV4, SubTanks and TopTanks
RBA would be tanks that only have the ability to build on a deck, like Lemos.
RDA are of course drippers.
At least this is the way most vendors have it set-up on their website as well as Just plain Tanks that encompass all Tanks and no drippers. Sub Ohm Tanks that has both RTA and RBA and encompasses all tanks that have a coil option lower than 1.0 even if higher ohm occ coils are available
Clearos and Cartos are a bit in the way-back department as that was what we had back in the day. Disposable cartomizers that were replaced by Clearomizers with replaceable coils.
My 1st tank was the Ego T, a gravity fed Tank with mouthpiece that punched on to an atomizer that had polyfil then screwed on to the Ego battery. My second tank was an actual tank that had a carto in the center and you had to punch holes in the cartomizer for it to soak up the juice. Lots of dry hits in those days. We have come a long way since then and we still have miles to go. Just enjoy the ride :w00t:

A visit to a vendors website revealed a couple of RTAs listed with the RBAs and a Kanger T3 Clearomizer under tanks and listed as a Clearomizer but in the description it was called a cartomizer. To me a cartomizer is what the prefilled cigalikes always used... looks like equal confusion amongst the vendors. :unsure: fastening my seatbelt.
 
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You missed one:

RDTA = Rebuildable dripping tank atomizer.

Never found a tank I liked until I spent some time with one of these :2cool:


RBA = Rebuildable atomizer. RBA isn't used much anymore in referring to atties since the invention of so many different types of rebuildables.
As far as RDTA"S go I personally only know of 2 that I would classify as that, because they use a TANK above the RDA!
1) The Big Dripper by Sub Ohn Innovations

2) Authentic Vape Fuel Dripper by TKO vapers
tkodripper-26650-apart.jpg

I actually own the 22mm version of this RDTA & it's more of a novelty than something to be an ADV! The tank is way too small & as often as you have to refill you might as well use an RDA!


For me I'm a simple kind of guy & I don't really care what you choose to call our ATOMIZING devices as long as they're simple & descriptive! The only things I would like to see us stop using are Clearomizer & Cartomizer because these are very vague descriptions & not everybody will understand what they are describing without extensive explaination!:headbang:
 

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As far as RDTA"S go I personally only know of 2 that I would classify as that, because they use a TANK above the RDA!
1) The Big Dripper by Sub Ohn Innovations

2) Authentic Vape Fuel Dripper by TKO vapers
tkodripper-26650-apart.jpg

I actually own the 22mm version of this RDTA & it's more of a novelty than something to be an ADV! The tank is way too small & as often as you have to refill you might as well use an RDA!


For me I'm a simple kind of guy & I don't really care what you choose to call our ATOMIZING devices as long as they're simple & descriptive! The only things I would like to see us stop using are Clearomizer & Cartomizer because these are very vague descriptions & not everybody will understand what they are describing without extensive explaination!:headbang:

I have seen those and they are nice:) At some point I may add one into my rotation. Currently though I love my TFV4s and I use a couple of different drippers to taste my DIY juices on different builds ;)
I would also like to see clearomizer and cartomizer go bye bye, but as long as cigalikes are still available there will also be the pre-filled cartomizers for them. Clearomizers with replaceable atomizers to me should still fall under tanks and drop the clearomizer label as they are actually tanks just smaller...:unsure: just mho:)
 
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You said calling them sub ohm tanks wouldnt work because of sup ohm coil heads. Im not sure Kangar came out with the 1st sub tank, but its the 1st one i remember and that came with the 1.2 coil head, but the name did change.

In general i refer to them as sub tanks, even though its a brand people still know what i mean. I.E. if i started a thread.asking what the best sub tank on the market is right now, most people would give the opinion, while others.will tell me sub tank is a brand even though they know what i meant
 

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As far as RDTA"S go I personally only know of 2 that I would classify as that, because they use a TANK above the RDA!
1) The Big Dripper by Sub Ohn Innovations

2) Authentic Vape Fuel Dripper by TKO vapers

I actually own the 22mm version of this RDTA & it's more of a novelty than something to be an ADV! The tank is way too small & as often as you have to refill you might as well use an RDA!

I've seen a few of those designs over the years and the thought of dealing with a spring and having to manually drip from a tank didn't appeal to me. I have a bottom feeder with a 6 ml juice bottle in it that works very well, but you still have to squonk regularly and it's a mechanical mod.

When I saw the Aromamizer RDTA and understood how it works I was interested. You can chose between a regular three post or a two post Velocity style RDA in the base and between three and six ml tanks. I have two of the bigger ones. The tank is gravity fed, so no vacuum to deal with and nothing is manual. It works very well. I suspect the tank to leak if it's on its side for a while and of course if you put it sideways any juice in the RDA drip well will leak through the air holes like with any low air hole RDA design.

Took me a few setups to get to know its little quirks, but for the last while my RDAs are gathering dust. I see they have a couple of new versions out now too and the V2 is I think top filled which could be a plus for some folks. The air flow is different also.

For me I'm a simple kind of guy & I don't really care what you choose to call our ATOMIZING devices as long as they're simple & descriptive! The only things I would like to see us stop using are Clearomizer & Cartomizer because these are very vague descriptions & not everybody will understand what they are describing without extensive explaination!:headbang:

A lot of people vape clearos these days and there are some very good ones on the market. Cartos are a lot less popular now than they used to be, but I suspect they are not going away anytime soon either. The folks who vape these hardware options, or used to vape them, know what the terms mean. In order to keep talking about them we have to be able to call them something, so I hope the terms don't die out too soon :)
 
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