Very disappointed with sub ohm vaping!

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quovadis

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Are you sure about that?

I have all those options sitting in my house... and I vape them for a hit here and there. I couldn't vape any of them exclusively, though.

I vape @ 0.2 ohm ADED.

@ 50mg, that's what keeps me cool and collected.

Tapatyped

You forgot to mention that you also vape Testosterone Cypionate with that!!:D
 

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Back in the old days, we did not use watts. Watts were not relevant to vaping. Input volts and the resistance were the only variables.
In 2008 some of us figured out that stacked 3.7 volt batteries (18350 1200mAh) output a glorious 8.4 volts, and if used with a 5~5.5 ohm atomizer, this was the best vape possible. We tried to convince the people who were using mere 3.7 volt batteries to try the higher voltage. After this around 2008~2008, they invented the passthru which was essentially a 5 volt usb device with a 3.2 ohm atomizer. Then some of us built passsthrus that were capable of outputting any voltage so as to use this with a desktop variable voltage DC power supply. Back then, tanks did not exist, neither did any form of variable voltage ecig. The desktop variable power supply was an excellent means to achieve different voltages.
What I did deduct back in 2007 after extensive testing with volts and ohms, was that the best vape possible had to have a 3 differential between volts and ohms.
In other words, your resistance had to measure YOUR VOLTS-3.
Most people were vaping with a 4 volt battery and a 3~3.5 ohm atomizer. I knew this was wrong, because the differential between 4~4.2 (a fully charged 3.7 volt battery) and a 3 Ohm atomizer was only 1.2.
I knew that a small differential of 1.2 would lead to a very weak vape.
In 2008 I had a chinese (sailebo) supplier build me custom made 5.5ohm 801 pen style atomizers. These were designed for high voltage vaping (8 volts+) and dripping.
We used this theory of the OHMS + 3 (OR VOLTS-3) factor for years.
A few weeks ago, I was browsing the internet and saw the word "sub ohm" written all over the place, and stupidly enough I did not connect the dots. I made the additional mistake of wanting to try it, and still did not connect the dots, that in fact, without realizing it, I had been OVER OHMS and not SUB .
I have now tried sub ohms and can tell you that I prefer hypo ohms system. HYPO=ABOVE, as opposed to SUB.
The sub ohming system uses a resistance of 0.5 @ 3.7V, That is a differential of 3.2, just slightly above the 3 I mentioned earlier.
Back in 2008, we tried different resistances all the way up to 8 ohms resistance coils, with 10~12 volts output, we found that the best vape possible was at 5.5 ohms and 8~8.5 volts.Using pure VG at those high voltages gives a very thick and dense vapor, and its noticeably COLD. When you blow it onto your skin it feels VERY COLD.
Having said this, the subohm system also has a differential of 3 or thereabouts, but I realize that liquids have to be made with more taste and less nicotine, as opposed to 8 volts and 5ohms which requires much less taste and higher nic. Taste refers to flavoring you mix into liquids.
Having said this, I suddenly realize that it would not be possible to lung inhale at 8 volts and 5 ohms, because of the vapor's density AND THICKNESS.
All this is starting to make sense now. The next step, is to build some 5.5 ohms atomizers RDA, and use them with a 7.5~9 volts, and compare the vapor + taste to a 0.5 ohm system. Then I have to find some young guy who wants to do a lung inhale for me...
Imagine a mouth inhale at 5ohms and 8 volts, gives you a tad less vapor than a subohm system today, Imagine what a lung inhale would do?
 

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those are probably big vaping channels , I dont watch people like RIP Tripper , the guy acts like a total clown . Funny thing is that the most helpful vids i have found on youtube are made by germans and I dont even speak german . I remember watching some German guy with a GoPro on his head , I didnt understand a word but found it way more helpful than anything else

Oh! is that what a gopro is? I been seeing gopro parts and stuff for a gopro all over fasttech but can't seem to find a gopro to see exactly what one is!
 

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Gopro is ultra HD, or higher resolution than your standard HD 1920x1080. Its is a small portable camera worn around your head (so you do not have to hold it)
4k resolution is best viewed with a 4k computer monitor or a 4k TV. 4k resolution is 3840x2160.
There are many clips on you tube filmed with a gopro. They look stunning.
You can also watch 4k videos with a normal HD monitor, however the details and resolution is lacking.
It is much too early to buy a 4k tv (DO NOT GET CONNED INTO IT) because there's no content yet. Broadcast tv is only at 720 or 1080i.
It's as if I were telling you not to buy an ecig because there's no juice.
4k and 5k for that matter is stunning, mind blowing, but there's currently only about 300+ short video clips on you tube, and some music videos are starting to be filmed in 4k.
Netflix has a few streams in 4k, but you need a 4k tv, which is typically much more expensive than a regular HD tv.
Just type in your tube "4k go pro"
 

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Back in the old days, we did not use watts. Watts were not relevant to vaping. Input volts and the resistance were the only variables.
In 2008 some of us figured out that stacked 3.7 volt batteries (18350 1200mAh) output a glorious 8.4 volts, and if used with a 5~5.5 ohm atomizer, this was the best vape possible. We tried to convince the people who were using mere 3.7 volt batteries to try the higher voltage. After this around 2008~2008, they invented the passthru which was essentially a 5 volt usb device with a 3.2 ohm atomizer. Then some of us built passsthrus that were capable of outputting any voltage so as to use this with a desktop variable voltage DC power supply. Back then, tanks did not exist, neither did any form of variable voltage ecig. The desktop variable power supply was an excellent means to achieve different voltages.
What I did deduct back in 2007 after extensive testing with volts and ohms, was that the best vape possible had to have a 3 differential between volts and ohms.
In other words, your resistance had to measure YOUR VOLTS-3.
Most people were vaping with a 4 volt battery and a 3~3.5 ohm atomizer. I knew this was wrong, because the differential between 4~4.2 (a fully charged 3.7 volt battery) and a 3 Ohm atomizer was only 1.2.
I knew that a small differential of 1.2 would lead to a very weak vape.
In 2008 I had a chinese (sailebo) supplier build me custom made 5.5ohm 801 pen style atomizers. These were designed for high voltage vaping (8 volts+) and dripping.
We used this theory of the OHMS + 3 (OR VOLTS-3) factor for years.
A few weeks ago, I was browsing the internet and saw the word "sub ohm" written all over the place, and stupidly enough I did not connect the dots. I made the additional mistake of wanting to try it, and still did not connect the dots, that in fact, without realizing it, I had been OVER OHMS and not SUB .
I have now tried sub ohms and can tell you that I prefer hypo ohms system. HYPO=ABOVE, as opposed to SUB.
The sub ohming system uses a resistance of 0.5 @ 3.7V, That is a differential of 3.2, just slightly above the 3 I mentioned earlier.
Back in 2008, we tried different resistances all the way up to 8 ohms resistance coils, with 10~12 volts output, we found that the best vape possible was at 5.5 ohms and 8~8.5 volts.Using pure VG at those high voltages gives a very thick and dense vapor, and its noticeably COLD. When you blow it onto your skin it feels VERY COLD.
Having said this, the subohm system also has a differential of 3 or thereabouts, but I realize that liquids have to be made with more taste and less nicotine, as opposed to 8 volts and 5ohms which requires much less taste and higher nic. Taste refers to flavoring you mix into liquids.
Having said this, I suddenly realize that it would not be possible to lung inhale at 8 volts and 5 ohms, because of the vapor's density AND THICKNESS.
All this is starting to make sense now. The next step, is to build some 5.5 ohms atomizers RDA, and use them with a 7.5~9 volts, and compare the vapor + taste to a 0.5 ohm system. Then I have to find some young guy who wants to do a lung inhale for me...
Imagine a mouth inhale at 5ohms and 8 volts, gives you a tad less vapor than a subohm system today, Imagine what a lung inhale would do?
Sub ohm is not a system.

There just happens to now be sub ohm systems as the mfr's are catching on. Though they're not necessarily doing it right per se'.

I mean... if you can vape it, it's not wrong. But a sub ohm tank or clearo can't keep up with the real thing by a far stretch.

Tapatyped
 
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