Vapor King??

[VapingRulz]

I know they are praised for their customer service but to be fair i get treated exactly the same other places too (won't name names incase people say i'm a fanboy)

I've actually had great service from all of the vendors I've done business with here. Most of the ECF vendors are very good, I think.

...but with V4L the only reason i ordered more than once was to get replacements in my next order because they wouldn't send me replacements for the stuff i got that was duff.

I guess that's where we'll have to agree to disagree. I find the quality of their products to be excellent overall.

I have to take 1 final dig though LOL... they put contests on their subforum for coming up with ways to improve stuff, first prize gets a Ultimate kit blah blah of their choice, so lets get this straight, if some dude comes up with some revolutionary idea to improve their lineup, all he gets is a vaping kit while they could be making a boatload of money off of an idea they didn't even come up with ? now THAT is horrendous LOL.

It's just about the oldest marketing trick in the book - because it works. Where do you think so many of the recipes your mom used came from? Contests sponsored by Betty Crocker, Duncan Hines, Campbells, Quaker Oats, etc. Advertising jingles of all kinds, too. There's nothing new under the sun.