Ulcerative colitis

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r77r7r

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    Ok, didn't know that you can get UC from quitting smoking. I've just spent 4 days in the hospital and it is still is sucking!

    W/o going into all this, I for now would like to know how much nic I need to use to help w/this. Seemed to show up when I dropped from 12mg to 4.

    I'd like to not have to go too high........

    Any stories on how nic has helped you w/UC would be appreciated also.

    TIA, Bob
     

    NoMoreMondays

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    Quitting itself does not cause UC, but quitting aggravates the pre-existing condition.

    I don't know of any suggested amount of nic to prevent UC flare-ups and to this day there is no scientific evidence that shows how much of the nic we are actually getting from the e-juice. Seriously, the only way of addressing UC flare-ups would be a change of diet and following your doctor's suggestions.
     

    fumarole

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    From a member of my family:


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    "UC is known to be much less common in smokers, and it is therefore assumed (but not proven) that smoking is a prophylactic against UC. Because of this, UC is sometimes called 'a non-smoker's disease'. This is a statistical observation as no one has demonstrated the causative factors. Normally, UC is a genetic condition in that it runs in families. So it would be unusual (but not impossible) for someone to present with UC and be a smoker with no relatives with UC. However it is worth noting that due to the symptoms, many don't admit to having it, and you may well only find other family members who are sufferers once you have announced it (we had another two in our family, who spoke about it only after another spoke out first).

    There is some evidence that quitting smoking triggers UC in those who are susceptible and might well have presented with it anyway (there is no known cause and no known cure for UC). The same could be said of some thyroid conditions. This did seem to have happened with one of our family.

    We don't know if it is nicotine or any of the other thousands of chemicals that helps prevent UC. It could for example be one of the other WTAs, or a combination. If you come from a family with two or more UC sufferers, there is something to be said for taking up smoking, at a very low quantity perhaps - or starting to vape nic, or nic + WTAs maybe. UC is a serious and life-changing disease that ruins some people's lives, so this is not as mad as it sounds.

    Once UC is triggered, all you can do is relieve the symptoms - if you are lucky. If things get bad, a colostomy or one of its variations is needed. That doesn't necessarily end it, because for some people it can also affect the joints, eyes, liver, and more. Those who have liver complications are not happy people.

    We found that dietary adjustment was by far the best solution even though this is not recommended in the literature. After severe illness that would not respond to any drugs, including double the normal dose of steroids, a drastic dietary adjustment was tried as a last resort. These were removed: all dairy products, processed foods of the dessert type with dozens of chemicals in, carageenan (a food additive associated with UC in lab tests), and tapwater (only bottled water is used for drinking, cooking or coffee).

    The last one was the most drastic of all but found to be the most effective. The patient is down to 1 x 500mg Sulphasazine / Salazopyrine EN (enteric coated) per day, and can even omit this when necessary, and has had no relapses for years (this sufferer previously had many serious relapses and lost several years to the disease). Until you have had a few years with UC you will not realize just how amazing that is. Perhaps it is the chlorine in tapwater but we have no idea.

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    Make sure all tablets are EC (enteric coated). Especially, don't let them give you uncoated Prednisolone. This is the steroid used, it comes in 5mg white tablets (uncoated) or red (EN - coated - the type you want). The uncoated steroids can serious indigestion in a person that never had it before, and things are never the same afterward.

    When things are bad, treat both ends :)

    Avoid extended periods out in very bright sunlight without eye protection. You will need UV400 protected sunglasses. This is because UC sufferers are at risk of iritis ('UV-itis' aka snow-blindness) as a result of strong sunlight. It's very painful and distressing.

    If you wear soft contact lenses, the sulpha /salazo pills can discolor them.

    Don't listen to them if they tell you diet makes no difference, for some people the difference is dramatic.

    UC affects the large intestine, Crohn's the small intestine. UC is not related to Crohn's in any way, although an unlucky sufferer could have a type of either that affects a greater part of the digestive tract than normal, causing confusion here. There is not known to be any benefit to smoking or nicotine in Crohn's, in fact it may be a bad idea.

    Although smoking (or nicotine - we don't know which) is certainly a good idea for the prevention of UC, there is no evidence it helps after presenting with the condition. Nevertheless many UC sufferers do try it in the hope that it helps - probably because anything that might help is a good idea, and better than a relapse, which can be a very serious illness."

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    We have provided this info to several others as it seems hard to find, even though there are 'usergroups' everywhere.
     
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    oplholik

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    I was hit with this starting about 4 weeks ago, and I quit smoking the last of April 2010. It seemed to come on as I was dropping to 4mg nic. It started out as just being veerry gassy for about a week, then the diaherra started. Ended up with a colonoscopy yesterday and diagionsed with UC. So I have started taking Prednisone, and Asacol. Feeling a little better today, and hoping my case isn't particularily tricky or stubborn, but will see in time.
     

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    I was hit with this starting about 4 weeks ago, and I quit smoking the last of April 2010. It seemed to come on as I was dropping to 4mg nic. It started out as just being veerry gassy for about a week, then the diaherra started. Ended up with a colonoscopy yesterday and diagionsed with UC. So I have started taking Prednisone, and Asacol. Feeling a little better today, and hoping my case isn't particularily tricky or stubborn, but will see in time.


    Sorry you got it too. Not sure if is coincidence or not, but the worst part with the ........ and blood went away after I went up to 12mg which I'm still at. My next order of juice I'll take it up to 18mg.

    The website I posted earlier has a very helpful forum that I visit daily. I was on Asacol, but was switched to higher strength- Lialda. If you don't get to use that forum, I suggest to at least say away from spicy foods and too much coffee.

    Best wishes for a long remission..........Bob (Any questions that I can help with- feel free to PM me, or reply back here.)
     

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    I wonder how chron's is affected buy nic. I have this and the doctor said smoking is one of the reasons for flare ups. I know i quite smoking once and was really sick. If anyone knows more let me know thanks larry
    hello Imarr,
    I would be wondering the same, unless it was a coincidence that it flared up then. i read where Diabetes sometimes can get worse when people stop smoking-
    Nothing to do with nic, but saw this article and was surprised how oxalates in the diet can affect COPD,and IBS, so Ill add the link FWIW.
    Hope you feel better really soon,
    High Oxalate Foods Can Trigger Pain and Inflammation « Always Well Within
     

    nansc

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    I have Chrone's disease and have had it for 40 years ,have had 4 surgaries.the colonoscopy really helps a lot sometimes it cures it.I have had mine reversed now.I take the Asacol too,it helps if you can keep it in your stomach long enough.Anyway I found that cigarettes really kick it off.Just one drag is enough,but the vaping doesn't bother it.I hope you're feeling better,it's a rough road.Good Luck:)
     

    meems

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    Thanks Bob. If I have any questions I'll pop back. I will also be checking out the website mentioned.
    I might think about going back up in nic. I had to start dropping down in nic(and only 2mg after 4 pm) due to not being able to sleep at nite.


    Hands down the best place for information is Here.. Ulcerative Colitis - HealingWell.com Forum

    It's real people with this horrid disease...I learned more there than I did from my GI. The LDN therapy sounds promising..
     

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    Thought I would post a little update on this. My wife had just finished another round of steroids (that didn't help) for her UC flare up when I started looking into this. I told her about the link with UC and nicotine and she has since bumped up here mg level to 18mg and she started smoking a few cigarettes a day (never more than 3-4) and poof her UC has went dormant again.

    Needless to say, she has been much happier as of late.
     
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