So... If you accidentally swallow e liquid you could die?
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I know a few people have tried to commit suicide by drinking juice and failed. They barf it up before it does any real harm. I've heard that someone succeeded at suicide by injecting juice. There is no way for the body to get rid of it if someone does that. I can think of a whole lot of common substances we have around the house that would probably kill you if you injected them.
The accepted fatal nic dose is in dispute and it's very likely that it's much higher than commonly believed to be.
I DIY my juice and have worked with 100 mg/ml base though I have only 48 mg now. I don't use much nic anymore and 120 ml of 48 lasts me about a year or more. I've had a few drops of 100 mg liquid on my skin, washed it off within a minute or so and it has not affected me. I have at times had drops of juice in my mouth as I imagine many of us have and have felt no effect from that either other than it generally tastes awful. A few good leaks have got more than a few drops in my mouth at times too.
Small children eat tobacco surprisingly often and end up in the hospital because of the nicotine overdose.
We all need to be careful with anything that can harm people. Small kids and pets are more susceptible to chemical exposure than larger people and animals.
Having nic available in liquid form is fairly new, somewhat controversial and when something negative happens it's newsworthy. I try to keep things in perspective and not be lead from hype. Check out how many people die each year from smoking, car accidents and poisonings.
Safety is important for all of us. Always check your blind spot before making a lane change. Keep dangerous chemicals clearly labeled and inaccessible to children and pets. Practice safe battery use with all your battery powered devices. Have enough smoke detectors in your home and replace the batteries annually.
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The accepted fatal nic dose is in dispute and it's very likely that it's much higher than commonly believed to be.
I DIY my juice and have worked with 100 mg/ml base though I have only 48 mg now. I don't use much nic anymore and 120 ml of 48 lasts me about a year or more. I've had a few drops of 100 mg liquid on my skin, washed it off within a minute or so and it has not affected me. I have at times had drops of juice in my mouth as I imagine many of us have and have felt no effect from that either other than it generally tastes awful. A few good leaks have got more than a few drops in my mouth at times too.
Small children eat tobacco surprisingly often and end up in the hospital because of the nicotine overdose.
We all need to be careful with anything that can harm people. Small kids and pets are more susceptible to chemical exposure than larger people and animals.
Having nic available in liquid form is fairly new, somewhat controversial and when something negative happens it's newsworthy. I try to keep things in perspective and not be lead from hype. Check out how many people die each year from smoking, car accidents and poisonings.
Safety is important for all of us. Always check your blind spot before making a lane change. Keep dangerous chemicals clearly labeled and inaccessible to children and pets. Practice safe battery use with all your battery powered devices. Have enough smoke detectors in your home and replace the batteries annually.
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I cannot believe people keep starting these misinformed post...............and people that know no more keep trying to give (mis) factual information.
1 Person has died from Direct injection of a Nicotine Based Liquid. It WAS NOT an e-liquid for e-cig use.
1 Person Has attempted suicide by swallowing a Nicotine solution. She became Violently ill and spent a few days in the Hospital. {I hope some time under mental evaluation was a follow up}
I Linked the information directly from the medical community in an earlier thread.
Very few true poisons Kill everyone at the same consumption amount. Those that do are often engineered to do so. What may kill one person may only mildly bother another.
Alcohol is a poison and has killed many from only a drink or 2 before slipping into a non-reversible coma, yet it is consumed by millions world wide daily.
1 Person has died from Direct injection of a Nicotine Based Liquid. It WAS NOT an e-liquid for e-cig use.
1 Person Has attempted suicide by swallowing a Nicotine solution. She became Violently ill and spent a few days in the Hospital. {I hope some time under mental evaluation was a follow up}
I Linked the information directly from the medical community in an earlier thread.
Very few true poisons Kill everyone at the same consumption amount. Those that do are often engineered to do so. What may kill one person may only mildly bother another.
Alcohol is a poison and has killed many from only a drink or 2 before slipping into a non-reversible coma, yet it is consumed by millions world wide daily.
If you had 1ml, 100ml, 1000ml or a bathtub full of 18mg it would all contain 1.8% of nicotine.
Ok so does that mean in 10ml there is 18mg? And 20ml there would be 36mg? Sorry Just trying to understand lol
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A few months ago, I transferred four liters of 100 mg./ml. nicquid into little 60 ml. and 120 ml. bottles. The whole process took me about an hour and a half. Needless to say, I used wrist-length nitrile gloves and safety glasses, plus I had fans going and windows open, even though it was still cold outside.
Early in the process, I noticed squishing in one of my gloves. Since I was using copious amounts of water to wash off filled little bottles, I thought I'd gotten some water into that glove.
When I was done and peeled off the gloves, I realized that glove had a leak, and the squishing was 100 mg./ml. rocket fuel in my glove. My whole hand and wrist were soaking with the stuff. Needless to say, I immediately washed it off. Then I examined the glove and found the small leak. (Note to self: next time, plunge your gloved hands in water first to make sure the gloves don't have a leak!)
The result? I had a headache for a couple of hours and didn't vape for several hours (didn't feel a need to). I didn't even get nauseous.
Early in the process, I noticed squishing in one of my gloves. Since I was using copious amounts of water to wash off filled little bottles, I thought I'd gotten some water into that glove.
When I was done and peeled off the gloves, I realized that glove had a leak, and the squishing was 100 mg./ml. rocket fuel in my glove. My whole hand and wrist were soaking with the stuff. Needless to say, I immediately washed it off. Then I examined the glove and found the small leak. (Note to self: next time, plunge your gloved hands in water first to make sure the gloves don't have a leak!)
The result? I had a headache for a couple of hours and didn't vape for several hours (didn't feel a need to). I didn't even get nauseous.
Nicotine concentration is measured in mg per ml. So 10ml of 18mg nicotine juice would contain a total of 180mg of nicotine.
Just amazing that there have been millions of people vaping for years now and not one reported adult accidental death from drinking eliquid. What are the odds. I mean there should have been at least 100 to 200 adult deaths from accidental drinking eliquid by now based on the millions who vape.
Aren't we all fortunate that a newb with all of 58 posts started this thread so we can all reconsider what we are doing. How stupid the rest of us have been for all of these years never realizing the danger we have been facing. I'm definitely going to reconsider laying on my back and vaping with my Phiniac tank upside down. Oh wait, I have never done that before. Is this a new way to vape and I am just too old school to realize it. Does that mean I am safe???
Aren't we all fortunate that a newb with all of 58 posts started this thread so we can all reconsider what we are doing. How stupid the rest of us have been for all of these years never realizing the danger we have been facing. I'm definitely going to reconsider laying on my back and vaping with my Phiniac tank upside down. Oh wait, I have never done that before. Is this a new way to vape and I am just too old school to realize it. Does that mean I am safe???
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Ok thanks for clearing that up for me iv always been confused with the % and mg labels on diffrent bottles
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I never knew someone could get their blood alcohol level high enough from one drink to die. Other chemicals were involved?
It seems the myth has already been debunked in this thread, but I will offer one more link anyway
Nicotine lethal dose in humans: a common argument by regulatory authorities, based on poor science
Edit - another Nicotine High-Toxicity Myth Destroyed
Nicotine lethal dose in humans: a common argument by regulatory authorities, based on poor science
Edit - another Nicotine High-Toxicity Myth Destroyed
i did the same in my lap. then my kids started their bickering and i got distracted. finished mixing and went about my day. about an hour or two later noticed my manhood was "warming liquid" temps. a bit scary because of the area, but that's about it.
I know you seem to have already got things cleared up but I already thought of posting the following:
To confuse things a little further, or to clarify....
mg (one thousandths of a gram) is a measure of mass
ml (one thousandths of a liter) is a measure of volume
Nicotine has a specific gravity of 1.001g/ml. Therefore 1 ml of nicotine would weigh 1001 mg. Adding 18mg of nicotine to a solution of ejuice so that the entire volume was 1ml would result in a solution of 18mg/ml or 1.8% ejuice. If you put 36mg of nicotine in solution adding up to two ml then you would still have 18mg/ml or 1.8% ejuice, only twice as much of it.
It's always wise to be careful. However, a cartomizer usually holds about 1 ml (although high-capacity ones can hold more). That liquid is in the batting and not easy to swallow unless you eat the batting too.
Nicotine is a severe stomach irritant and a very effective purgative, let's just say.
You'll vomit uncontrollably if you swallow too much.
It can still be dangerous if your vomit reflex is depressed for some reason, so animals that cannot vomit (like horses) would be far easier to kill than a human. Additionally, infants' vomit reflex is not quite reliably developed yet, so liquids can be dangerous for them as well (and their mass is so small they can absorb fatal doses very quickly as well).
Nicotine is a severe stomach irritant and a very effective purgative, let's just say.
You'll vomit uncontrollably if you swallow too much.It can still be dangerous if your vomit reflex is depressed for some reason, so animals that cannot vomit (like horses) would be far easier to kill than a human. Additionally, infants' vomit reflex is not quite reliably developed yet, so liquids can be dangerous for them as well (and their mass is so small they can absorb fatal doses very quickly as well).
Before vaping I tried to quit smoking, few days after I had such a bad cravings that I went and brew the tobacco of 1 cigarette and mixed it with my coffee press, not knowing it was deadly. Took 3 sips and then googled it, thank God I did. Found out it was toxic if consumed directly. But honestly, nothing happened. LOL
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Thanks for the shout out at least I think it was me I know I made mention of it a month or so ago =). I only vape 3mg nic when creating my weather systems lol. I have had a whole 30ml bottle of 36mg nic explode all over me back in 2011 I didn't even get nauseous from it. Keep it out of reach of pets and children like everyone else says
To further confuse things up:
Isn't specific gravity mostly measured in dilution with water, therefore the actual specific gravity of nicotine in PG or VG would be actually lower in e juice since both liquids are denser than water?
Reminds me of an older (and completely stupid) version of the urban legend of tobacco toxicity: they said that water made tobacco deadly toxic. If it had been true, I'd be dead many times over by smoking in a light rain. I even once found a "spy" guide that said that you could kill someone by getting the nicotine out of 2 cigarettes by letting the tobacco sit in water for hours, then filter the tobacco out a few times and boiling for X amount of time. Then you supposedly had a poison so potent 2 drops in a cup of coffee could kill in record time, leaving no trace.
I'm pretty sure if I inhaled 2 ml if I didn't throw up naturally I would force myself to throw up anyway
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I don't believe the numbers. I'm not saying what I once did, as I don't want anyone to get any ideas, but it involved vanilla ice-cream-gelato, actually, and April Moon...
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