Sigelei 75W V. IPV D2

[v1ks_]

I use the Zephyrus...Ask away.

Oh, right, I do think I saw you in the Zephyrus thread here in the forum...
Well, there are just two things really, that worry me. First is the leaking, when using top filling option. The second is rba... I've read it somewhat tight and hard to work with, even for people with prior experience in building their own coils. How would a total newb get by? Newb is willing to learn...

 

[itskohler]

Newb should get a cheapo RDA to learn on first and get the basics down. I would heavily recommend the Golaith V2 over the Zephy.

 

[KenD]

The subtank mini is also a great atty to start with. Easy to build on, and you have the option to use prebuilt ni200 coil heads if you get frustrated.

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[ShowerHead]

I got my D2 today and like it already with Ti.
I use a subtank mini, easy to build on either the v1 or v2 of their RBA. Great options for airflow. Has a good selection of prebuilt coils if you aren't into or don't want to make your own. I've had two of these since they came out and neither has leaked.

 

[Carnage9270]

I love the idea of future proofing. The ipvd2 is awsome but not future proofed all the other ipv's have a usb slot for updates wich I think is future proofing I'd recommend the ipv4s but not the ipv4. Read a lot of naughty things about the older device. I was put firmly in my place by a fella yesterday when I was saying the only bad thing was the charge port and other than that it's flawless. Then he linked me into his thread where it explained how his ipv4 basically almost exploded and it had nothing to do with the charge port. But the good definitely out weighs the bad. So hopefully they fixed all the issues with the new S version IMHO it's gotta be one of the best mods you can buy for that kinda money. Good luck and one more thing I can guarantee that it won't be the only device you buy especially if you suffer from shinnyitus like the rest of us[emoji15] [emoji15] [emoji15]

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True future proofing is having the ability to set the resistance of the wire instead of choosing one from a list that may or may not exist in their current firmware.

 

[Jace75]

True future proofing is having the ability to set the resistance of the wire instead of choosing one from a list that may or may not exist in their current firmware.

I think sxk have that option and the xcube 2 but not all the cheaper ones do also the kooper mini but to have a fully adjustable coefficient dont you need to spend a lot more money. P busardo reviewed a tube mod the other day think it was called the pipeline pro or something my memory is getting worse as I get older it had fully adjustable coefficient they're out there, but I'm happy with choosing from a list when it's this cheap, for now or until I learn more, still a newbie only stopped smoking 2 months ago. Only just sold my vamo v5. Regret it now I miss it I kinda owe it my life.[emoji88]

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[Carnage9270]

Yeah, this is something that all manufacturers should be putting in their TC devices. I'm at the point now where I won't even consider a TC mod unless it has the ability to do this. Otherwise you're looking at the next device every time someone discovers a better wire to vape on. At least in their opinion lol. Just gives the flexibility to try everything and not have to change your temp settings to be completely wrong in order for the mod to work.

 

[v1ks_]

Newb should get a cheapo RDA to learn on first and get the basics down. I would heavily recommend the Golaith V2 over the Zephy.

Goliath V2 doesn't really qualify as cheapo, imo...
$38.11 Authentic UD Goliath V2 RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 5ml / 22mm diameter / stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
$25.20 Authentic UD Zephyrus BDC Clearomizer - 5ml / 0.3ohm (20-50W) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I link Fasttech as it really is the optimal source for me to buy stuff (or other Asian sites). There are virtually no local vendors to speak of. Only one I know has such ridiculous prices, it's not even funny (eGo One Mega kit for $79)... Same issues with Western European sites, much higher prices than US/Asia and no free shipping, which means things cost about twice as much, as they do on FT/CB/et al.

@KenD & @ShowerHead
Subtank Mini is on my radar as well. Only reason I've placed it below Zephyrus in my own list, is due to the fact that Zephyrus has slightly larger capacity, top filling capability and costs less while offering roughly equivalent retail kit and equally good, if not superior, RBA deck. (looks better too, but that's subjective).

 

[ShowerHead]

@KenD & @ShowerHead
Subtank Mini is on my radar as well. Only reason I've placed it below Zephyrus in my own list, is due to the fact that Zephyrus has slightly larger capacity, top filling capability and costs less while offering roughly equivalent retail kit and equally good, if not superior, RBA deck. (looks better too, but that's subjective).

I have only two issues with that tank.
First, I thought (and I'm sure to be corrected) that the RBA deck is dual coil. I don't, and don't want to have dual coils.
"The RBA deck features a split T-Post positive with massive dual 3mm airflow holes below each post"

Second, it seems to leak, and not from o-rings as some had happen with the Subtank (not the Mini).

How does the top fill work? I'd be interested in that if it didn't require a needle or incredible fine motor skills.

But, I'm very happy with the STM and don't really know what a different tank would offer that I'd like better.

 

[Croak]

The Goliath V2 is worth the extra money over the Zephyrus. Single or dual coil, a big expansive deck (for an RTA) that'll handle Ni200 builds, and the ability to run pre-built coils too.

 

[Clark Kent]

I have both the Sig 75 and the IPVD2, I used to be a total Sigelei fan over any IPV product untill I got my hands on the D2, It has been my favorite out of all. It seems I get much better battery life from the D2, its smaller,and has been peforming great so far. For the price you really can't go wrong. I do like the Sigelei but always end up grabbing the D2 to take out. It pairs well with the Starr, Herakeles and Crown all with NI coils. I also like that it reads down .05 for building NI coils that are not monsterous.

 

[v1ks_]

Thanks for the input everyone!

Will read some more and hopefully order something today...

 

[smokin909]

Dirk oberhaus release a review today about the Sigelei and he was not excited at all about the accuracy. It was pretty bad. Unfortunately the review is in German. He does pretty good reviews with lots of measurements. A bit more than pbusardo.

Here are his Wattage measurements table - I can't understand his commentary, but these numbers look okay?

It will be interesting to compare to the Wattage mode for the ipv D2 when those ones comes out.
He has measurements for the Sigelei 75w in TC mode but not in a chart format. You can see the output results in his video. I skipped over those as I'm not buying either of these for TC mode yet. However if the D2 has accurate TC and Wattage then I'd buy it over the Sigelei for sure.

I lkie his reviews even though I can't understand 90% of what he says. I also really like his sofa and chicken painting.

 

[v1ks_]

Here are his Wattage measurements table - I can't understand his commentary, but these numbers look okay?
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It will be interesting to compare to the Wattage mode for the ipv D2 when those ones comes out.
He has measurements for the Sigelei 75w in TC mode but not in a chart format. You can see the output results in his video. I skipped over those as I'm not buying either of these for TC mode yet. However if the D2 has accurate TC and Wattage then I'd buy it over the Sigelei for sure.

I lkie his reviews even though I can't understand 90% of what he says. I also really like his sofa and chicken painting.

The numbers look OK(I'm a total noob though )... but they sort of show only half of the picture. Without the numbers of other similar devices (IPV D2, Koopor Mini perhaps, etc.) it's somewhat hard to determine, just how good or bad those numbers are. I"m somewhat certain that if you would take the results of a device that cost x4 as much, the numbers would be better (although unlikely that 4x better).

I'd be more interesting (for me at least), to see the results of TC mode, as (again, for me at least) that mode is pretty much the main selling point of these devices. I'd absolutely love to see how Koopor Mini stacks up against Sigelei 75W, considering that the Koopor costs about 1/2 of the Sigelei.

 

[smokin909]

The numbers look OK(I'm a total noob though )... but they sort of show only half of the picture. Without the numbers of other similar devices (IPV D2, Koopor Mini perhaps, etc.) it's somewhat hard to determine, just how good or bad those numbers are. I"m somewhat certain that if you would take the results of a device that cost x4 as much, the numbers would be better (although unlikely that 4x better).

I'd be more interesting (for me at least), to see the results of TC mode, as (again, for me at least) that mode is pretty much the main selling point of these devices. I'd absolutely love to see how Koopor Mini stacks up against Sigelei 75W, considering that the Koopor costs about 1/2 of the Sigelei.

I'm a noob to all these new regulated devices as well I've been using mech mods for the last year almost exclusively.

I agree, price, build reliability, customer service, aesthetics etc - it all forms part of the picture that helps us to decide based on our various wants and needs. He does have the temp control results on the video - you can see the output in realtime in various setting scenarios - and you don't need to understand German to interpret the results.

For me personally - ATM I'm after a small form factor, single 18650 mod at around 75w for use in wattage mode - and I'm looking closely at these two. I will delve into TC at some point but I'm guessing by the time I do things will have changed 5 months down the line re available new devices. Having said that if the TC and Wattage mode in the D2 is good - then that will be a great because I'll be able to have a device that will suit all my needs/wants right now and be grow into it knowing both TC and Wattage modes are accurate within acceptable operating parameters. Once I find a device that suite my needs I tend to stick with it for as long as it satisfies my vape needs or kicks the can.

I can't say I know much about the Kooper mini - I'll have a look into it - thanks.

 

[Daisychainvaper]

As far as I can remember he was talking about the temperature accuracy. Wattages are fine (apart from the too hot messages)

 

[Stinkytofus]

Ipv4s ftw

 

[herb]

I'm all for my D2, but my IPV4 almsot blew up, and it wasn't because of the charging board. So i was a little paranoid about getting anothe P4Y mod, but I am very happy I did.

The iPV 4 is not a good example of what P4U is capable of , their iPV mini , iPV 2S , iPV2X and iPV III are much more solidly built devices . What makes the iPV 4 good is the outstanding chip and the price , they had to compromise somewhere .

Lots of people who have had P4U products in the past have commented about the lackluster build quality with the iPV4 because it's not what they were use to .

I expect the D2 to have a more solid build since P4U heard the complaints with the iPV 4, i have not picked up a D2 yet so can't comment in depth at this point.

The biggest problem i have with the Sig is the two removable doors , makes zero sense to me . P4U gets more negative feedback and deservingly so than Sig , they have always had a habit of introducing a mod and people will jump on the preorder only to find out when released the mod has changed quite a bit .

Another criticism is they have introduced new and improved models before a lot of customers have received their initial model lol, that causes a lot of outrage .

I would still feel comfortable with either one , Sig is very rarely criticized and their chips have proven themselves to be among the best available , when P4U uses YiHi the same can be said for them but in general you tend to hear more negative feedback with P4U.

 

[itskohler]

I have my D2, and it feels like a completely different device.