Rough news today

[LEDBETTER122]

Go get a pack of Smokes and go hang out with him, then after a while pull out the pack of smokes and give him a cigarette that you "Pre-Engineered" with a fire cracker in the front .

I'm telling you, it will scar him for life, he will from that point on associate cigarettes with explosions in his face.

Lol I’m Joking, Please don't do that.............

 

[zapped]

Go get a pack of Smokes and go hang out with him, then after a while pull out the pack of smokes and give him a cigarette that you "Pre-Engineered" with a fire cracker in the front .

I'm telling you, it will scar him for life, he will from that point on associate cigarettes with explosions in his face.

Lol I’m Joking, Please don't do that.............

I did that once at the restaurant I worked at. Someone kept stealing my smokes from the break room without asking.

Was pretty damned hilarious and thankfully no one got hurt.I'm glad my mgr that night had a sense of humor as well.

The server never stole another cigarette from anyone else the entire time he worked there either.

 

[LEDBETTER122]

I did that once at the restaurant I worked at. Someone kept stealing my smokes from the break room without asking.

Was pretty damned hilarious and thankfully no one got hurt.I'm glad my mgr that night had a sense of humor as well.

The server never stole another cigarette from anyone else the entire time he worked there either.

Haha that's funny, it reminded me of his guy I used to work with.

Every day on every break he would ask me for a cigarette (and get into his hummer), he had a big pony tail IN THE FRONT OF HIS HEAD (Weird I know). One day I was just getting sick of it and I had one of the "Cheapo" lighters that you can adjust the flame on. I adjusted the flame to a "Monstrous level" and let’s just say the next time he asked for a cigarette......... Poof "No more Pony Tail”.

 

[skoony]

find out who is friends are.he isn't smoking alone.
he may have to change friends.peer pressure will get him back to
smoking in no time.
regards
mike

 

[stylemaster2001]

my son at 21 yrs old asked me one day if i minded if he has a cigar while we were playing disc golf. i literally dropped my jaw. he hated me smoking growing up and heard an orderly say i had very little chance of recovery when i was going into a lung surgery when he was 6. he also told me i was "jumping on a bandwagon" when i was planning to start vaping. after seeing my success and realizing this might keep his dad around a bit longer i got him to start vaping. granted he was a light smoker without a long history. he is now a dual user, about 3 analogs a day and about the equivalent in vaping. i buy all of his supplies and encourage him to exclusively vape but he claims they are 2 different things. if there is a point to this ramble i suppose it is this....all you can do is encourage and support. best of luck.. <*}}}>{

Yup, my son is 29, played baseball from jr high thru college, got a nasty "dip" habit that drives his wife crazy. (He smokes "mildly" also). Told them both I was vaping now and he sounds interested in learning more about it. I have to drive 6 hours to get down there, but plan on a trip to show him my setup (which I just happen to have a whole 'nother backup setup ready too), if he likes, I will give him a set-up and some flavors of juices. I have already researched and found a vape store, Vape911 in Marietta, which is just up the street from where he lives. I wanna take him there and have him sample their juices (you know, show him the "in's and out's" of visiting a shop--something he would probably never do on his own) He has to consciously "plan" to hit a conv. store every day to buy his dip and smokes, so if he can be that dedicated to analogs, I hope he will jump in with both feet to vaping. After that, it's all on him, either he wants to switch or not. We can lead the horses to the water, but we cannot drink it for them!!!!

But, on a positive note, so far it's looking well for my sister. been smoking for 30 years 1 1/2pad, and got her vaping. Unless she's closet smoking, I believe she will "kick it" which thrills me to no end...now, God, if only my son takes to it that well.....

 

[Weizenheimer]

How does someone underage get smokes or get into smoking in 2014?

 

[stylemaster2001]

Weiz, someone is probably buying and then selling at a "premium" to the kids. Hell, I still get carded sometimes at Wally World, and I'm 54!!!!!! So I'm pretty sure no one's selling it to them (although there are a few Indian/Muslim stores that I know sell to underage kids, they risk losing their right to sell tobacco, but hey, you know if there's a market, someone's gonna sell it. (unfortunately)

 

[Weizenheimer]

Weiz, someone is probably buying and then selling at a "premium" to the kids. Hell, I still get carded sometimes at Wally World, and I'm 54!!!!!! So I'm pretty sure no one's selling it to them (although there are a few Indian/Muslim stores that I know sell to underage kids, they risk losing their right to sell tobacco, but hey, you know if there's a market, someone's gonna sell it. (unfortunately)

I think it should be a felony

 

[Taowulf]

How does someone underage get smokes or get into smoking in 2014?

If someone wants something bad enough they get it. Kids are no different than adults that way.

 

[zapped]

If someone wants something bad enough they get it. Kids are no different than adults that way.

I came of age right before the changes in the laws affecting smoking.I used to go inside of gas stations while my dad waited in the car and buy them for him. For some of our younger posters, YES you could actually buy cigarettes under the age of 18 at one time in this country, so I never experienced that part of it.

We used to get this drunk that hung out outside the grocery store to buy us beer though. As long as we bought him a 6 pack he didnt care.

 

[beckdg]

^^ at 16, i was going to the local motel takeout and getting beer myself. if i couldn't get there, we'd do the same thing. liquor was a little more involved, but still not out of reach. cigs were easy. even at 12.

 

[soysos]

There is not enough information here. If it were me my first step would be to talk with him as an equal. I would want to know how much he has been smoking, why he started, and where he's been getting them. Without that information I would not be able to make a decision on a course of action. I will say this though, at his age threats, punishment, even the usual scare tactics will not work. Since he is confideing in you he's already thinking of quitting and doing so would only push him away.

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[TyPie]

This is a tough one. I am going through about the same thing.

Briefly, I discovered my teenaged son was smoking the small cigars, and a little while later, cigarettes. I hit the roof and wanted to strangle him. After I cooled down a bit, I confronted him, reminded him how he hounded me to stop smoking all during his youth, how he watched me struggle trying to quit, and what a horrible waste of health and money a smoking habit is. I tried the "logic and reasoning" approach.
I also reminded him that there will be other serious consequences (from yours truly) if he did not stop with the tobacco.

I set him up with an ego battery and some 0-to-6mg nic juice, telling him that if he absolutely feels the need to have tobacco, use the 0-nic, as he has witnessed me vaping over the last year. I am relentless (but not overly so) in staying on top of this, and regularly ask him how he is doing with the vaping or smoking. I believe I have made some headway, as he tends to offer up information now, as in, " I didn't feel like having anything at all today, Dad", for example. The funny thing is, that I am almost certain that he does not vape or smoke during the day because he is in school all day, and has sports afterward all year long.

Most kids will try some things and experiment. I hope I caught this in time, as I am not in favor at all of encouraging smoking OR vaping for the young. If I have to choose though, it is vaping 0-nic all the way.

Good luck with this. This can be a particularly troubling situation, as I am completely aware. (And I still want to strangle him..........)

 

[Bosco]

My kids have a ways to go before they start thinking about trying smoking or vaping but I am pretty sure I would not support my 14 or 16 year old vaping. Basically, if they are of age to buy it then there's nothing I can say . .until they are of age I won't allow it and our house will be one more place they have to sneak around although I certainly hope they would choose to quit seeing as how I've told them *all thier lives* how stupid smoking is and how I wished I'd never started.

I'm realistic about things and realize if they choose to smoke or vape I really can't stop them but I don't plan on making it easy or comfortable for them. They can call me a hypocrite all they want . .I stopped really listening to them years ago, lol (jk).

 

[Taowulf]

First thing we talked about was how long, how much ect. Then we got into a lot of stuff about his current situation at home which I am not going to air in a public forum to strangers.

I always have talked to him as an equal, which is not always what he gets from his mom...hell she didn't even talk to ME as an equal a lot of the time when we were together.

 

[soysos]

I feel ya on that one my wife can be the same sometimes. That's a big part of why I started smoking in the first place

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[DrMA]

Found out my 14yo son (lives 3 hours away from me) has been smoking for the last 6 months. I find this out barely a week after I quit. What prompted him to tell me? He saw the posts on my FB about quitting the analogs and going to vaping.

It's tough. I don't want him to have any addictions whatsoever.

What would you do if it was your kid? Please note, I am not saying "What will you tell me to do with MY kid?", I am curious how other people would react to this situation...or have reacted if they have already dealt with it. With all the "FOR THE CHILDREN" crap that gets spewed by people that want to ban sharp edges, underage smoking is a hot enough issue as it is. It happens. It has to be dealt with somehow. How can we expect kids to toss off a habit many of us have struggled with for decades? After all, we are the ones who are SUPPOSED to have learned self control, right?

What a difficult situation! I feel for you. That being said, I think it's a good sign your son opened up to you, it means he's willing to have an adult discussion about smoking.

Unlike some posters here, I don't think the ANTZ scare tactics and the hysteric "quit or die" rhetoric are going to have any meaningful impact. He gets enough of that nonsense from the media... In fact, I think taking that kind of approach will make your son dismiss your opinion wholesale, just like he's dismissed these same messages from the media and the dire warnings plastered over half the cigarette packs.

Instead, if I were in that situation, I'd have a very frank conversation with the kid, in which I'd tell him my own story of smoking including the struggles of quitting. Tell him those stories you have about smoking out in the cold in the back of the building, the disapproving looks of passers-by, the stigma and shame thrust upon smokers by the rest of society. Make the point that smoking is only cool in a very small circle and that society at large will tend to view him as a pariah. Chances are he's going to be defensive and argumentative, but don't take that as a discouragement, and try not to get confrontational. I'm sure he'll later reflect on your discussion in his own terms, and it will have a positive impact if you can keep it civil, factual, and personal, rather than spewing hyperbolized ANTZ propaganda...

 

[Airiak]

Everyone is different and addiction sets in at different rates for different people. Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter if you've had the addiction for 6 months or 30 years, it can be just as difficult to break.

That being said, I started smoking at 15 and after just a few months of smoking I was finding ways to get a smoke or two in while I was at school. The bathroom, parking lot, behind the gym, hell sometimes I just skipped study hall and sat out in my buddies car and chain smoked the whole period.

My 16 year old daughter smokes on occasion. I've tried telling her why it is bad and why she should stop, but it is her decision in the long run. I know she isn't addicted though as she doesn't exhibit any of the behaviors of addiction. So, if she persists in her want of smoking or she starts showing signs of addiction I'll try my hardest to steer her towards vaping to at least lessen the harm.

 

[Completely Average]

How does someone underage get smokes or get into smoking in 2014?

18 year old friends/older brother or sister of their friends who is willing to buy them. Also a lot of non-English speaking cashiers simply do not care.

 

[soysos]

Or bribe a bum.

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