I'm not allowed to use my vape at work on break, why?

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I work in a chocolate factory and there is no smoking allowed on work property (including the outdoor break area) and your not allowed to leave property on break so no smoking for the whole shift which is understandable due to chocolate absorbing smells, but they state that e-cigarettes are included which I don't think is fair since I've never heard of someone's vapor smell clinging to them. I plan on using it regardless until I'm fired because I have no respect for ignorant employers, unless someone can give me a valid reason (other than respecting those around me, which I do).
 

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I don't think it's fair but if that's their rule then that's the rule. But since they can smell a stinky smoker and tell if they smoked, they won't smell it on you so how would they know? Also what chocolate brand is this? I love chocolate!
Exactly, nobody even notices and just to be respectful I stealth it when there's others outside, but I don't believe in "rules are rules", this isn't my career so if I lose my job over a victimless crime then so be it. I just want to make sure there's no good reason that they don't allow it before I end up the ignorant one. And it's Ferrero Rocher, my favorite :)
 
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Exactly, nobody even notices and just to be respectful I stealth it when there's others outside, but I don't believe in "rules are rules", this isn't my career so if I lose my job over a victimless crime then so be it. I just want to make sure there's no good reason that they don't allow it before I end up the ignorant one. And it's Ferrero Rocher, my favorite :)

Yeah I don't blame you, unless you are cloud chasing you should be fine. Oh Ferrero Rocher...the good good. It's all about Hershey's around here...in PA.
 

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I work in a chocolate factory and there is no smoking allowed on work property (including the outdoor break area) and your not allowed to leave property on break so no smoking for the whole shift which is understandable due to chocolate absorbing smells, but they state that e-cigarettes are included which I don't think is fair since I've never heard of someone's vapor smell clinging to them. I plan on using it regardless until I'm fired because I have no respect for ignorant employers, unless someone can give me a valid reason (other than respecting those around me, which I do).

Work at Motorola, Intel, or even AMD, no smoking or vaping on campus due to product quality control. Go for a smoke break the employee can't go back into the clean rooms and production lines as the smoke and vapor lingers and is exhaled for 30 to 40minutes after their smoke/vape break. You are dealing with other peoples food on a production line, its a QC issue.

Use nicotine patches, gums, or lozenges if it bothers you and can't go a full shift without a nic fix.
 

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It's your employers rules, not yours or the laws. If your employer says you can't do it, then you can't. It does go back to the "rules are rules" and "respect others". You don't have to like it or agree with it, but it's their policy. So honestly, you won't like it, but I'll be blunt about it. Abide by your employers rules or resign and work somewhere else. It'll be your loss not theirs. I'm sure someone else would be there to replace you the next day.
 
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Part of your work requirement - Following rules.

Another option is - another job.

this isn't my career so if I lose my job over a victimless crime then so be it.

Is Hailey your child? Still home. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ bad attitude.
Job turnovers and dismissals reduce career opportunities.
 
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Work at Motorola, Intel, or even AMD, no smoking or vaping on campus due to product quality control. Go for a smoke break the employee can't go back into the clean rooms and production lines as the smoke and vapor lingers and is exhaled for 30 to 40minutes after their smoke/vape break. You are dealing with other peoples food on a production line, its a QC issue.

Use nicotine patches, gums, or lozenges if it bothers you and can't go a full shift without a nic fix.
That's the thing, I'm in the re-pack area meaning I don't deal with any bare chocolate. It's not a clean environment to begin with, they hire mass temp agents who wear dirty construction boots/gloves and the only sanitary precautions we have to take are to wash are hands before entering. I understand your point but you wouldn't feel that way if you worked in this warehouse.
 

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That's the thing, I'm in the re-pack area meaning I don't deal with any bare chocolate. It's not a clean environment to begin with, they hire mass temp agents who wear dirty construction boots/gloves and the only sanitary precautions we have to take are to wash are hands before entering. I understand your point but you wouldn't feel that way if you worked in this warehouse.

My second part time job is fast food where I am a cook in the kitchen, similar environment, yes I can take a vape break like the smokers do, but I do not, I use lozenges on my shifts no matter if it is a simple 4hr shift to a full 12hr shift. Fact that they are hiring temps off the street without a food handler's certification, that is frightening if you ask me being partly in the food industry myself.
 

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Part of your work requirement - Following rules.

Another option is - another job.



Is Hailey your child? Still home. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ bad attitude.
Job turnovers and dismissals reduce career opportunities.
Since your one of those internet ...... that like to make assumptions I'll break it down for you in case this wasn't obvious already, not that it's any of your buisness in the first place. I'm financially stable with or without the job, its a second job and its through a temp agency. I picked it up for some spending cash, its not going on my resume whether I quit or get fired, like I said it's not my career.
 

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Also I forgot to mention that until I started working there I had no idea ecigarettes weren't allowed until I recently read a bulletin with "e-cigarettes included" in the fine print. So why would I up and quit when I don't have to? Nobody's said anything yet so why on earth would I quit my job when it makes no difference at all. That's why I'm asking if it DOES make a difference
 

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My last two professional jobs over a 30 year time span were working for two different hospitals in surgery. There was no smoking or vaping allowed anywhere on campus, including in your own car in the parking lots, or risk immediate termination if caught.

I'm a rebel type personality like the OP, and stealth vaped in the locker room. Hence my username. However, I did this knowing that I could lose my job. Their business, their rules, their right.
 

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My last two professional jobs over a 30 year time span were working for two different hospitals in surgery. There was no smoking or vaping allowed anywhere on campus, including in your own car in the parking lots, or risk immediate termination if caught.

I'm a rebel type personality like the OP, and stealth vaped in the locker room. Hence my username. However, I did this knowing that I could lose my job. Their business, their rules, their right.
I agree, if I'm confronted about it and they make me choose between ecig or job I have no problems with that, but until then I don't see the problem.
My second part time job is fast food where I am a cook in the kitchen, similar environment, yes I can take a vape break like the smokers do, but I do not, I use lozenges on my shifts no matter if it is a simple 4hr shift to a full 12hr shift. Fact that they are hiring temps off the street without a food handler's certification, that is frightening if you ask me being partly in the food industry myself.
It sounds bad but its only the re-pack warehouse that the temps are in. Only thing we touch is the already packaged stuff and we put it into different containers for the Christmas orders. It's generally a clean facility other than that.
 

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Since your one of those internet ...... that like to make assumptions I'll break it down for you in case this wasn't obvious already, not that it's any of your buisness in the first place. I'm financially stable with or without the job, its a second job and its through a temp agency. I picked it up for some spending cash, its not going on my resume whether I quit or get fired, like I said it's not my career.

Also I forgot to mention that until I started working there I had no idea ecigarettes weren't allowed until I recently read a bulletin with "e-cigarettes included" in the fine print. So why would I up and quit when I don't have to? Nobody's said anything yet so why on earth would I quit my job when it makes no difference at all. That's why I'm asking if it DOES make a difference

You are right none of my business and I'm not interested in your life. You chose to share.

Learned a little though.
Now wondering why you bothered looking for sympathy in a matter on which you could care less.:facepalm:
No, I'm not. don't bother explaining that one.:sneaky:
 
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I work in a chocolate factory and there is no smoking allowed on work property (including the outdoor break area) and your not allowed to leave property on break so no smoking for the whole shift which is understandable due to chocolate absorbing smells, but they state that e-cigarettes are included which I don't think is fair since I've never heard of someone's vapor smell clinging to them. I plan on using it regardless until I'm fired because I have no respect for ignorant employers, unless someone can give me a valid reason (other than respecting those around me, which I do).
A valid reason would be respecting the limitations put on you by the employer. You have issue with it? Bring it to the attention of the highest up person you can speak to. Just because "you've never heard" of certain things happening doesn't make them not exist. Perhaps try to reason with the employer, or at very least ask what THEIR reasoning is behind the exclusion of e-cigarettes in the workplace. The last thing you(and the vaping community) needs is to bring unwanted attention to vaping by blatantly ignoring rules put in place, which means you should respect the company policy. You're more than welcome to completely ignore it but it seems like a silly reason to get fired when you wouldn't be smoking on the property, why is vaping all of a sudden acceptable to you in the face of being terminated? Seems like it's only because of your own preconceived notions that it should be allowed.
 

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My friend is a tech in the delivery room and he vapes in the locker room. My dad has a heart transplant so I spent the past 10 years or so as a smoked at hospitals all the time. Doctors smoke, nurses smoke, techs smoke, patients smoke. They all smoke by dumpsters, ac units, loading dock, etc. There's areas where they know to go. If it were me, at a chocolate factory as a temp in a job I didn't need, I'd vape too. Especially considering the lack of cleanliness. My dad managed a diner for years and we used to smoke in the kitchen all the time lol everyone did. I think you're gonna be ok vaping outside a chocolate factory.
 

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You are right none of my business and I'm not interested in your life. You chose to share.

Learned a little though.
Now wondering why you bothered looking for sympathy in a matter on which you could care less.:facepalm:
No, I'm not. don't bother explaining that one.:sneaky:
Funny, for someone not interested you sure looked into my username enough to include my daughters name in your comment. And how am I looking for sympathy? Im asking if I'm wrong about vapor leaving scent on me, or any general health risks about 3rd hand vapor. Thanks for your contribution though
 

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A valid reason would be respecting the limitations put on you by the employer. You have issue with it? Bring it to the attention of the highest up person you can speak to. Just because "you've never heard" of certain things happening doesn't make them not exist. Perhaps try to reason with the employer, or at very least ask what THEIR reasoning is behind the exclusion of e-cigarettes in the workplace. The last thing you(and the vaping community) needs is to bring unwanted attention to vaping by blatantly ignoring rules put in place, which means you should respect the company policy. You're more than welcome to completely ignore it but it seems like a silly reason to get fired when you wouldn't be smoking on the property, why is vaping all of a sudden acceptable to you in the face of being terminated? Seems like it's only because of your own preconceived notions that it should be allowed.
I apologize if I came off as trying to be some rebel that doesn't care about rules, because that's not what this is about. Nobody cares about my vapor, nobody complains, nobody says anything. I'm wondering about health concerns that I may not be aware of, and also stating that the job isn't important to me so of it comes down to it I don't mind losing it just INCASE worst comes to worst. I was never told about those rules and if out of nowhere someone decides to come fire me without warning then that's where I lose respect, if they can explain why I shouldn't then I will gladly resign peacefully.
 

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My friend is a tech in the delivery room and he vapes in the locker room. My dad has a heart transplant so I spent the past 10 years or so as a smoked at hospitals all the time. Doctors smoke, nurses smoke, techs smoke, patients smoke. They all smoke by dumpsters, ac units, loading dock, etc. There's areas where they know to go. If it were me, at a chocolate factory as a temp in a job I didn't need, I'd vape too. Especially considering the lack of cleanliness. My dad managed a diner for years and we used to smoke in the kitchen all the time lol everyone did. I think you're gonna be ok vaping outside a chocolate factory.

Says the guy that got the Walmart thread closed Bashing stealth vapers. :lol::lol::lol:
just saying,
everyone has an opinion - some are even reversible and/or just convenient atm.
 
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