Health warning from Murray Laugesen

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RandallFlagg

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Can't tell much from the picture on that page. But noticed that the bottle was a minute 4ml - so expensive for such a tiny tiny amount. It is silly to use such small sizes, lots of wasted packaging (but big profits - user loses).

Further down it says that one can gain the benefits of added vitamins from their juice, but in reality these will not vaporise, just burn on the coil (with the possible exception of vitamin E; I think vitamin E will vaporise and can protect against oxidation of the juice prior to use, particularly the 'oily' parts).

I was thinking about this last week. An eliquid with health benefits to the users and those around them.
"The vaper has a cloud of antioxidants all over him. Let's hang with that guy."
 

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I was thinking about this last week. An eliquid with health benefits to the users and those around them.
"The vaper has a cloud of antioxidants all over him. Let's hang with that guy."

But in truth, most vitamins will not vaporise, just add to the dry residue burning on the coil.
 

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first off it would cost way to much to only use carts and not be able to use liquid. Nobody would use the e-cigs. Having it tiped above mouth is not going to cause liquid to get into the mouth. And I hardly doubt a small amount of liquid is going to hurt you considering you can buy nicotine gum and lasengers with 2mg-4mg strength and that goes into your mouth. the cost of carts with liquid is around 4.95-1o.00 dollars for 5. Most people would use 2-4 or the whole pack perday. There are alot of heavy smokers out there. There is no way I could use the e-cig without eliquid. I know totaly eliquid uses child proof cap....and are in the works of doing sampler packs at 10ml bottles with childproof caps as well. If a child dies of from gun fireing off in the house do you go after the companies that make the guns. NO the parent are responcible. Do you know how many kids probably picked up chew and got nicotine poisening. Never heard of tabacco companies going down for it.
 

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For those not familiar with dropper bottles, here is a photo I took just now. These have existed for at least 15 years. The one shown contains Bergamot essential oil 10ml and also has a child-proof cap.

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This is not a bottle with a dropper, the drip mechanism is built-in to the bottle. Upturning bottle releases one drip.

This is almost exactly the same as the bottles I provide.
 

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For those not familiar with dropper bottles, here is a photo I took just now. These have existed for at least 15 years. The one shown contains Bergamot essential oil 10ml and also has a child-proof cap.

dripper_bottle.png

This is not a bottle with a dropper, the drip mechanism is built-in to the bottle. Upturning bottle releases one drip.

I guess I'm an idiot because I can never get those sort of bottles to work - cant get even one drop out of 'em (sometimes I can get a drop out, but most time I end up getting nothing but P.O.'d) So, I always just take those dropper inserts out.
 

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I guess I'm an idiot because I can never get those sort of bottles to work - cant get even one drop out of 'em (sometimes I can get a drop out, but most time I end up getting nothing but P.O.'d) So, I always just take those dropper inserts out.

That makes two of us. I got some little blue glass ones with dropper tops - but unless the liquid in them is very thin it won't come out in my experience. If there's a knack to it I'd love to learn it! :)
 

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I guess I'm an idiot because I can never get those sort of bottles to work - cant get even one drop out of 'em (sometimes I can get a drop out, but most time I end up getting nothing but P.O.'d) So, I always just take those dropper inserts out.

LOL! DOn't feel bad.
I was puzzled by these on my TW bottles as I'd never seen them before. I just figured that you place the eyedropper to the hole and tilt the bottle. It worked, though...until I just ripped out the insert like you did..
 

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It comes out, guys. The first time you use it it's incredibly slow. Once the dropper insert is lubricated, it speeds it up. The first drop out might take a minute, but after that it's not bad at all. It's safety guys, it's better than not having e-liquid at all. If you support the companies that don't provide childproofing, those companies will have no incentive to develop safer bottles.
 

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It comes out, guys. The first time you use it it's incredibly slow. Once the dropper insert is lubricated, it speeds it up. The first drop out might take a minute, but after that it's not bad at all. It's safety guys, it's better than not having e-liquid at all. If you support the companies that don't provide childproofing, those companies will have no incentive to develop safer bottles.

The bottle I have has a small hole at one side to let air in as the drop is let out; perhaps yours are similar. So to get best flow, tilt so that the air inlet hole is uppermost; a finger tap on the upturned base helps too.
 

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No, many suppliers have the child-proof caps, but TW also have the dropper bottle insert (as well as the child-proof cap), but they are the only ones I have seen with that (in my relatively limited experience so far)

No, e-cigs.co.uk have them too in their own brand liquids.
They're in the Johnson Creek bottles also but these might be added by e-cigs since they're the reseller.
Intellicig don't have the dropper bit but they are child proofed in the normal way.

In fact, I'm kind of surprised to hear that any resellers are not using child proof caps.
 

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It comes out, guys. The first time you use it it's incredibly slow. Once the dropper insert is lubricated, it speeds it up. The first drop out might take a minute, but after that it's not bad at all. It's safety guys, it's better than not having e-liquid at all. If you support the companies that don't provide childproofing, those companies will have no incentive to develop safer bottles.

Amen to that. I won't supply my my nic-juice without a dripper insert and child-proof cap.
There really is no excuse for any supplier not to be doing this, and I'm amazed to see that some still appear to be - it's not like the caps are expensive. And it's not like this is a new issue - it's been being talked about here for months.
If folks want to toss the dripper and use the pipette once they've got it, that's their choice, but shipping un-childproofed bottles is just asking for trouble.
 
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