Anymore news on Aspire changing to cotton wicks on there BVC colils?

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I would assume that it they are changing from the ceramic wicks to cotton in the Atlantis that they are doing the same for the Nautilus...

I would say there's no bloody way to could trust or assume Aspire will be doing the right thing - and correcting all their wicking material for all their ceramic coils.

Have then even release a statement regarding the change to cotton, or is it just replies to forum posts & emails.

I think the manner in which they've handled this situation is total BS.

So just as a status update:

ABVC (Atlantis) = cotton (confirmed?)
NBVC (Nautilus) = ?
KBVC (K1, etc) = ?

They've got to set this right, for the sake of they're loyal customers.

When Kanger had their Subtank insulator issues, they made changes to the material AND COLOUR of the the component in question, still no official statement (which is not good enough), but at least the customers know what they have paid for.
 
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I suspect mine that came in vapemail 10 days ago are the new cottons... they're lasting 3 times as long! Saaaaaaaaweeeeeeet!

Your cotton coils last longer than the ceramic ones? I was under the impression that the cotton goes bad faster. I've got a Subtank and I'm having to replace the wick every few days.
 

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Your cotton coils last longer than the ceramic ones? I was under the impression that the cotton goes bad faster. I've got a Subtank and I'm having to replace the wick every few days.

I cant think of any other reason why my new batch of coils is lasting so much longer, can you?

I have the same on my subtank, but I know why there. I use 80-100% VG and if I chain vape the coils drys out and I've burned many. If I use a thinner (higher PG) juice I do not have that issue with the ST.

As for the info I received from Aspire USA & Aspire China... believe it, or don't. No skin off my nose! LOL!! They released a statement over a month ago on their support forum that they were looking into organic cotton wicks due to the many complaints over their use of potentially dangerous ceramic (silica) wicks. I believe that they also did so to stay competitive with Kanger, Smok, and all the other sub ohm clearos that use OC. Then, as Tearose50 posted, they stated the same for all BVC coils today on their forums. I have no reason to not believe them. I'll autopsy all my dead ones eventually to rewick and recoil them, then I will know.
 

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I cant think of any other reason why my new batch of coils is lasting so much longer, can you?

I have the same on my subtank, but I know why there. I use 80-100% VG and if I chain vape the coils drys out and I've burned many. If I use a thinner (higher PG) juice I do not have that issue with the ST.

As for the info I received from Aspire USA & Aspire China... believe it, or don't. No skin off my nose! LOL!! They released a statement over a month ago on their support forum that they were looking into organic cotton wicks due to the many complaints over their use of potentially dangerous ceramic (silica) wicks. I believe that they also did so to stay competitive with Kanger, Smok, and all the other sub ohm clearos that use OC. Then, as Tearose50 posted, they stated the same for all BVC coils today on their forums. I have no reason to not believe them. I'll autopsy all my dead ones eventually to rewick and recoil them, then I will know.
Thanks Darryl, sorry if I came of like a jerk, I certainly wasn't having a go at you. I was just surprised to hear of the long life in the cotton wicks.

I just had a quick look at the Aspire site (not their forums), and couldn't see any official statement. The most recent 'news' post was regarding the chromed brass vs stainless steel of the Atlantis). To me I think it's important that the company release an official statement, rather than just some staff member replying to emails & forum posts. Of all the reading of info that is coming from Aspire staff, there is quite a bit of misinformation and convolution in their responses. I figure this could be partly down to the staff's English skills. They need to make this clear. It seems that a lot of them really don't know what their talking about (which is quite scary, how uneducated are these people?), and they should be authorised to be proving poor quality information.
 

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Thanks Darryl, sorry if I came of like a jerk, I certainly wasn't having a go at you. I was just surprised to hear of the long life in the cotton wicks.

I just had a quick look at the Aspire site (not their forums), and couldn't see any official statement. The most recent 'news' post was regarding the chromed brass vs stainless steel of the Atlantis). To me I think it's important that the company release an official statement, rather than just some staff member replying to emails & forum posts. Of all the reading of info that is coming from Aspire staff, there is quite a bit of misinformation and convolution in their responses. I figure this could be partly down to the staff's English skills. They need to make this clear. It seems that a lot of them really don't know what their talking about (which is quite scary, how uneducated are these people?), and they should be authorised to be proving poor quality information.

I have to agree with you on that! The largest English speaking nation in the world is doing a piss poor job of communication in that language clearly to us. Some of the lack of good communication is probably due to the 2 week vacation for the new year... wish I got 2 weeks off for new years! LOL! And I also concur that an official statement should have been released by Aspire!
 
Has anybody posted opinions or reviews of the new OC coils for the Atlantis? I got a package of them in my last order of replacements from MBV and wasn't expecting it. I noticed the wick was much whiter when I took it out of the package. I'm on my third tank through it and I don't think I like them. Flavor went down the tubes and to even get close to what I was getting from the old style coil at 30W, I had to go up to 41. Now, I am using max VG juice. I'm just wondering if maybe it's having trouble with it?

At 30W, no flavor at all, but plenty of clouds. Not really a dry hit, just...nothing.
At 35W, a little flavor, but still nothing close to what I used to get.
41W gets me an acceptable amount of flavor, but there's a slightly bitter aftertaste.

If I go much higher, I start getting dry hits.

I disliked it enough that I went to Aspire's website and checked the scratch off code, and they are authentic.

Any ideas? My guess is I'm gonna have to find something else to use that works well with max VG.


EDIT: A friend of mine is using one of the new coils in his and says he's having no trouble, but I think he uses 50/50 juice.
 

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Has anybody posted opinions or reviews of the new OC coils for the Atlantis? I got a package of them in my last order of replacements from MBV and wasn't expecting it. I noticed the wick was much whiter when I took it out of the package. I'm on my third tank through it and I don't think I like them. Flavor went down the tubes and to even get close to what I was getting from the old style coil at 30W, I had to go up to 41. Now, I am using max VG juice. I'm just wondering if maybe it's having trouble with it?

At 30W, no flavor at all, but plenty of clouds. Not really a dry hit, just...nothing.
At 35W, a little flavor, but still nothing close to what I used to get.
41W gets me an acceptable amount of flavor, but there's a slightly bitter aftertaste.

If I go much higher, I start getting dry hits.

I disliked it enough that I went to Aspire's website and checked the scratch off code, and they are authentic.

Any ideas? My guess is I'm gonna have to find something else to use that works well with max VG.


EDIT: A friend of mine is using one of the new coils in his and says he's having no trouble, but I think he uses 50/50 juice.

I have found the Atlantis replacement coils to be EXTREMELY inconsistent! Some are fantastic, some died within a day or two. My last batch has been incredible and very longlasting... but I rotate 3 heads for each tank I run: 1 in the tank, 1 is soaking in hot H2O, and one drying, or dried and ready to go. For me this aids in longevity!


PS - I use 80-100% VG!
 

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I cant think of any other reason why my new batch of coils is lasting so much longer, can you?

Well, yes, and it's the exact opposite of what you seem to think. The coils last longer because the wick doesn't. If you burn up the cotton that touches the coils, and it dissolves in the e-liquid, the coils have more room to expand and move with heat, and won't die as quickly. You'll inhale aerosol with soot particles, though. But I guess that's a more smoke-like experience.
 

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Does anyone know if the regular(non Nautilus and Atlantis) BVC coils are now cotton? Everything I can find says only the Atlantis and Nautilus BVC coils are now all cotton. However I just got a pack of the new regular BVC coils with the larger wicking holes and inside the pack there was a card that says when installing a new coil wait 2 minutes for the cotton to absorb the liquid. The wicking material looks like cotton, not the old wicking material. I don't know whether it's the larger holes or the wicking material but there's more vapor. Not as much flavor as the old coils though, and the vape seems warmer and more harsh at the same wattage.
 

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It has been confirmed at the Aspire customer service site that the Aspire BVC coils, sometimes called K1 BVC's, are now also cotton.

It sure seems that card in the box is the indicator of which boxes are all cotton, but I haven't seen that confirmed by Aspire.

It seems that there may be versions with larger holes, just like the nauti's, that are an interim version that have larger holesand use the material wrap overlaying some cotton.
 
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It has been confirmed at the Aspire customer service site that the Aspire BVC coils, sometimes called K1 BVC's, are now also cotton.

It sure seems that card in the box is the indicator of which boxes are all cotton, but I haven't seen that confirmed by Aspire.

It seems that there may be versions with larger holes, just like the nauti's, that are an interim version that have larger holesand use the material wrap overlaying some cotton.

Do you have a link for that Aspire info? I just opened my new box of NON-Nautilis 1.8 ohm Atties and see the larger holes, and insert card. I knew about the cotton Nautilis atties, but could find nothing about the smaller ones being switched to cotton, seems like a logical choice since they are going cotton but I imagine they don't want to make a big deal out of this until all their distributors stock can be sold off.
 

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Change in the recommended voltage for the BVC (non-nautilus) coils.
Aspire - A change to the BVC coils

Aspire coils purchased last week.
Nautilus:
Scratch and check on the back printed in red, not the previous black
Cotton warning card on the inside of the box

BVC (non-nautilus:
Scratch and check on the back printed in red, not the previous black
No cotton warning card inside the box
Large holes
The outer layer is a noticeable very white cotton.
Do not know if the inner material is ceramic, but suspect due to no warning card. (If Aspire got that right)

Neither of the coil types have the sharp, crisp taste of the ceramic coils. Flavors range from slightly muted to flat to tasteless. Nautilus coil is the worst.

Vendor said he cannot get a reliable answer from Aspire as to which version of the coils is being sent.
 

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"Dear Customer,
It is the same with our BVC series coils for K1 and BVC series clearomizer.

Have a nice day!"

Google "Aspire Different revisions of BVC Coils" for link to the correspondence with Aspire re the changes. Not sure if OK to post link here. :)

Interesting, just made me go look at the 5 Aspire K1's I bought a few weeks a go. 4 out of 5 are the larger hole ones. I use these tiny, cute Clearos on an iStick 10 watt mod. So tiny I can always fit it in a pocket, but I will say even at the 10 watt limit, the big hole coils vape great. So it's a transition period, whether you like them or not.
 
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