What setup gives best throat hit?

[skywalk]

I tried stock joye 510 and wasn't impressed with zero throat hit.

My questions are
- what pg/vg ratio gives good th?
- what juice for th?
- do I need HV juice? I'm trying xhaler at 5v and chuck at 6v when they arrive.
- I'm confused about sweet juices being bad at high volts. Is this true?

Basically I NEED throat hit. If there's minimal vapor I'm still ok with that.

And the most important question: who sells the juice that hasthe best throat hit? Thanks all

 

[CSI]

skywalk,
I am obviously pretty new around here and only started vaping 2 months ago. All I have used are my Joye 510s I got from cignot.
I really spent a lot of time trying to figure out the best way to make this work for me...how to get vapor, throat hit, taste, etc....

I am still learning new things everyday. One MAJOR thing I learned was how much effect my 'taking a drag' phase had on things. I have found that by taking multiple, small puffs, that my vapor production and throat hit ends up being 1000 times stronger over taking a regular puff. I mean my drag force is almost non-existent. I get so much throat hit at times I almost choke. My 510 really likes having very soft puffs. A stronger drag will usually produce very little vape and almost no throat hit.

You may already know all of this since you have been at this a lot longer, but just in case................
I was amazed at the difference after I experimented with drag forces I was using. I am more than satisfied now with my 510.
ken

 

[CSI]

I'm sorry, forgot to add: I have only been using the juice I got from cignot.com 26mg nic VG type. All the flavors pretty much the same in terms of TH and vape production.
Hope this helps.
ken

 

[skywalk]

Thanks. Can u be more specific about drag technique pls? I tried it all: strong quick puffs, slow gentle puffs, multiple puffs, pressing and releasing the batt button...I get lots of vapor but zero TH.

 

[Doug_Dread]

I'm using Dekang RY4 High in my M201 and seldom get much throat hit even with long vapes, except 1st thing in the morning and after any other long gaps.

My daughter, also using an M201, has Dekang Menthol High and it kicks the heck out of her, so much so that she takes short puffs like an analog to lessen the hit. She's now mixing 50/50 with Dekang Menthol Medium and finds the lesser hit more comfortable and enjoyable.

So it would seem that Dekang Menthol High gives a strong th.

 

[skywalk]

THanks Doug. High vs medium, I assume you're talking about nic content right? So is it right to surmise that higher nic content equates to more TH?

 

[Doug_Dread]

THanks Doug. High vs medium, I assume you're talking about nic content right? So is it right to surmise that higher nic content equates to more TH?

Not sure really, the dealer says his "High" is 24mg Nic and the "Medium" 16mg Nic. The RY4 doesn't kick but the Menthol does, so it must be more than just the Nic content i.e. RY4 is warm, sweet and mellow, whereas Menthol is cool and sharp.

 

[skywalk]

So both your ejuice and your daughters are the same nic content but her menthol gives better hit? So I guess it's the juice that matters, not the nic

 

[CatVTTV]

Throat his is down to a combination of things.

The RIGHT juice for you.
The atomiser being tip top
A fresh battery.

The 510 should have given you a throat hit of some kind.

Everyone is different, so what works for me, may not work for you.

I was a 20 a day smoker for 40+ years, but I didnt feel the need to go for the strongest juice. I started with 11mg, went up to 18mg for a while, and still use 18mg for that morning hit, but the rest of the time 11mg does the trick.

Menthol has a kick of its own, yes, but you need to experiment and find the juice that is right for you in flavour.

I find Apple gives me a real kick, but the hit is dry on the throat.

When CSI talks of multiple small drags, it means the same as when you would do that with a cigarette. I call it primer puffs, but its the same thing, 3 or 4 short inhales, then a deep one followed by the exhale.

 

[skywalk]

Thanks petbe. So I need to try multiple juices and see what works for me.
Who do u recommend I start with?

 

[breakfastchef]

Throat hit is subjective to the users, but I find it is enhanced by using a higher nicotine level e-liquid and increase in heat. The first is easy to experiment with; the second can be accomplished with a manually operated device and/or a device that runs at a voltage higher than a typical screw-in e-gic battery.

Petb brings up another good point - flavor. The nature of menthol is such that many vapers get an enhanced feeling of throat hit. Some lightly flavored liquids might not provide much of the throat hit sensation. Perhaps try some samplers of liquids to find flavor/nictotine content that you enjoy.

 

[Scottbee]

Generally speaking, "throat hit" can also be enhanced or created via the addition of a small percentage of alcohol to your mix (keeping in mind that this will also thin-out the juice). When mixing my own VG-based juice I usually add about 10% of 151 to the mix..... and the TH change is quite noticeable.

$.02

 

[skywalk]

Thanks for the input. Where do you order your juices from?

 

[Scottbee]

My primary vape is ECOpure that I get from CIGNOT. Great liquid... but limited flavor selection. Of course.. a few bottles of LorAnn and some ECOmix and that problem is solved.

I also got quite a few bottles of PG-based liquid from Dawn at DIYFlavorShack. Great stuff. great vendor.

I would be remiss if I didn't mention the wonderful stuff that I got from Drew at Nhaler.... and all the VG samplers that I got from Vermont Vapor. All my wife will (happily) vape is VV juice.

 

[skywalk]

Omg that's a lot of sources! I'm the sort that finds ONE brand that I like then I smoke that, and nothing else. I reckon I won't shop around too much once I find a flavor I lilethat has good throat hit. Ready have 2 bottles from tasty vapor coming plus a sampler from structlyejuice(dekang)
I dunno how to choose!!!!! Hahaha

 

[elysianwing]

Generally speaking, "throat hit" can also be enhanced or created via the addition of a small percentage of alcohol to your mix (keeping in mind that this will also thin-out the juice). When mixing my own VG-based juice I usually add about 10% of 151 to the mix..... and the TH change is quite noticeable.

$.02

No kidding? Does that affect the taste or nicotine potency at all?

 

[420GypsyGirl]

I guess I am lucky, I get good throat hits off my Joye 510. I vape a lot of different mixes but I find the 50%pg 50%vg the best combo. Good vape and good TH.

 

[Thulium]

You can also boost your TH by adjusting your inhalation style. Taking long slow drags on a 510 and/or inhaling first into your mouth before taking it into your lungs or using a French Inhale can really kick up the TH a couple of notches.

 

[420GypsyGirl]

You can also boost your TH by adjusting your inhalation style. Taking long slow drags on a 510 and/or inhaling first into your mouth before taking it into your lungs or using a French Inhale can really kick up the TH a couple of notches.

What he said. Taking nice long pulls first into mouth than inhaling can make for a good TH.

 

[Scottbee]

No kidding? Does that affect the taste or nicotine potency at all?

No kidding!

Yes.. the nicotine will go down a notch. Remember... I'm only talking 10% (MAX) alcohol..... so if you were using 24mg nic you would now have about 22.

Unflavored alcohol (PGA) will have little or no effect on the flavor. Since 151 is flavored... yeah... there might be a slight "tinge" of that coming through. But I mix it with English Toffee or Butterscotch flavored liquid anyway... so I don't taste it at all.