Vaping vs Smoke Machines

[Barefoot]

A thought occurred to me that i haven't seen mentioned - either on the pro or anti side of the ecig debate.

The media pick up on the use of VG/PG in ecigs - and that PG is 'an ingredient in anti-freeze - yet i've never seen it mentioned that both are also used in commercial smoke machines common in nightclubs etc - and in large enough quantities to create enough 'smoke' to fill a room. Whilst i'm sure that these chemicals have been passed as 'safe' - how come i've never seen this mentioned perchance?

Aside from the fact that it obviously doesn't provide the required 'scare tactics' that is!

They also contain triethylene glycol which would appear to be more dangerous and unvapeable too!

Thoughts and corrections appreciated

 

[Barefoot]

Whilst it is obvious to a Vaper - did a quick search and i've never seen it mentioned within pro vs anti debates - generally anti say anti-freeze and pro say that PG is safe - without using the smoke machine as an example of mass exposure without permission - nightclubs will these days often have a sign warning folk of lighting that may bring on epilepsy - but i've never seen a warning for those that may have an allergy to PG!

 

[wv2win]

PG replaced a poisonous ingredient in anti-freeze that was killing animals that drank spilled anti-freeze from cars. This was done specifically because PG was not harmful.

 

[Barefoot]

Thanks wv2win - just curious as to why i've never seen the pro-vapers mention its use in smoke machines considering the exposure to a mass audience?

 

[TomCatt]

Not sure about mentions in the media; but the use of PG &/or VG in 'smoke' machines has been mentioned here on ECF many, many times.


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Quick Google News search came up with this http://www.indystar.com/article/20130605/OPINION10/306050017/Indy-s-ban-electronic-cigarettes-absurd

 

[Ref Minor]

Thanks wv2win - just curious as to why i've never seen the pro-vapers mention its use in smoke machines considering the exposure to a mass audience?

Probably because of the difference between occasional exposure at a nightclub and daily inhalation via an ecig.

 

[Barefoot]

Not an unfair point - tho the sheer volume of Vapour at clubs with laser shows etc has to be very high

 

[Ref Minor]

Not an unfair point - tho the sheer volume of Vapour at clubs with laser shows etc has to be very high

Yeas, but it's like the difference between smoking and going to a bonfire. No point bringing in an argument that can be blown out of the water. I prefer the argument that PG is put in hospital air circulation systems for its mild anti bacterial effect.

 

[Barefoot]

In all the 20+ years i've been going to clubs etc - only twice have i seen any warnings signs about smoke machines. That's what got me thinking about it - having responded to a poster on another forum about a possible PG allergy.