Vape Meeting with the President
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I think his trade policy was a long time coming. I haven't noticed any increase in prices on China products and I don't believe the farmers are going out of business. Huawei has been stealing from us for years and unlike other China companies Huawei is owned by the Chinese government. We can't allow them to steal our 5G technology, it's bad enough China knows what's on every Huawei phone sold. I'm not sure what you mean about principles and voters. I'm just fed up with the government telling what I now say, do, go, eat, drink, or smoke.
Removed my post - politics don't belong on an ecig chat board.
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It seems that much is obvious so you should probably thank me.
Your reply seems confrontational, perhaps I misread it.My point, too probe the American definition of liberty. I see far more outrage about the flavor ban than I did over the Patriot Act with effectively striped Americans of all rights. You said "an ever-increasing shortage of liberty", so is it possible to have liberty without rights because as I understand it those are long gone.
Every nation state has an official secrets act of some sort. The patriot act, which I think is now called the freedom act is a completely different thing. Here's a little taste Surveillance Under the Patriot Act
To no one specific individual;
The "weed heads" and the nic clique are busy throwing each other under the bus, yeah that's going to solve nothing. Ma rights, ma rights we cry, ma right to identify as a half ripe rutabaga cross pollinated by a lizard alien, ma rights to shoot someone if I feel threatened, my right to endanger not only my children's health but everyone else's because vaccines are an evil plot hatched by the OWO.
Ya'all fight and blaming each other while the man robs you blind.It's like the entire nation has ADD. The level of anger and disfunction breaks my heart. Fictional guy in the sky have mercy on your souls. I mean that sincerely, I can just walk away, my heart goes out to my American friends who cannot.
To no one specific individual;
The "weed heads" and the nic clique are busy throwing each other under the bus, yeah that's going to solve nothing. Ma rights, ma rights we cry, ma right to identify as a half ripe rutabaga cross pollinated by a lizard alien, ma rights to shoot someone if I feel threatened, my right to endanger not only my children's health but everyone else's because vaccines are an evil plot hatched by the OWO.
It's like the entire nation has ADD. The level of anger and disfunction breaks my heart. Fictional guy in the sky have mercy on your souls. I mean that sincerely, I can just walk away, my heart goes out to my American friends who cannot.
Even vapers are ready to divide up into tribes.
Good quote on this.
Jim Mattis - USMC
What concerns me most as a military man is not our external adversaries; it is our internal divisiveness. We are dividing into hostile tribes cheering against each other, fueled by emotion and a mutual disdain that jeopardizes our future, instead of rediscovering our common ground and finding solutions.
All Americans need to recognize that our democracy is an experiment—and one that can be reversed. We all know that we’re better than our current politics. Tribalism must not be allowed to destroy our experiment.
Our Republic is being destroyed for many reasons. Until people actually wake up instead of being sheeple led to slaughter nothing will change.
People Magazine has a "Vaping nearly killed me- A college student's harrowing story" title above a smiling Tom Hanks on this month's issue. It's right next to "Prince Andrew quits under pressure". Which story should I read first? I did glance at the kid though--nice pic of him on a breathing machine surrounded by his mommy and daddy in the hospital. Poor thang.
Same with "Dr" Phil. Both Oprah products. But the fact is that a lot of people watch them, so when they do happen to get it right (pertaining to vaping) it can still be considered a win for our side.
I think there's a simple explanation for this: Flavor bans have a very noticeable and negative effect on people's daily lives, whereas the Patriot Act, and its replacement the USA Freedom Act really don't.
Too true, why heck, I don't do anything wrong so go ahead listen in to my conversations, track my phone, eavesdrop on my conversations, even enter my house search top to bottom; if it keeps us safe then it must be a good thing. And it is called the "Patriot" Act and now the "Freedom" Act. I love how these Jack Astors name their bills, I read the name and then assume the effect of the bill will be the opposite of its name.
One of my favorites was a bill that opened up national forests to mining and logging. It was called something like the Save Our Forests bill.
The Brits name military operations with words grabbed at random from the dictionary by a computer program. Operation Seagull or whatever. America gives them names like Operation Really Sensible Courageous Freedom.
I think the most recent egregious act (this is not true, I could name a jillion more) was that dang pipe or dam or WHATEVER it was that went through some Native Land which is supposed to be SOVREIGN. It was like, "We shall like, STEAL your land, or trick you, killing billions in the process, so sorry!" Later, "We feel SORRY for you,so here is some land that really sucks but it is ALL yours to do with what you wish."
I'm sorry but you go from Yellowstone to..,, "We don't have wells here so we truck in water and you can come buys some. BUT It's ALL YOURS.;"
Yeah, until they need it, all of a sudden it's not "Sovergn nation" anymore. YOU ARE LITERALY declaring war with a NATION when you do that. For most folks it was no big deal, but I was a bit outraged.
Same with the wall. The Mexicanized tribes are all like, "No, we would like to keep our pipelines and supply lines going we REFUSE a wall." I think it's falling on deaf ears.
No one has any rights anymore. Also whatever the act is called I HATE IT. It's not like they monitor you perpetually but just set a FOOT out of line and they will access ever place you have ever been and nail you for SOMETHING. It's evil.
I think it's done more to decrease like, civil protests and whatnot than probably anything else. I barely want to look through my OWN internet history, let alone the government doing it.
And no, I'm sorry NO terrorism justified it . NOTHING justified it or could.
I have a secret love for W and I like to think they used him but had I been president I would have been "NO. JUST NO. I GET YOU SAY SO DADDY but NO.'
Anna
I'm sorry but you go from Yellowstone to..,, "We don't have wells here so we truck in water and you can come buys some. BUT It's ALL YOURS.;"
Yeah, until they need it, all of a sudden it's not "Sovergn nation" anymore. YOU ARE LITERALY declaring war with a NATION when you do that. For most folks it was no big deal, but I was a bit outraged.
Same with the wall. The Mexicanized tribes are all like, "No, we would like to keep our pipelines and supply lines going we REFUSE a wall." I think it's falling on deaf ears.
No one has any rights anymore. Also whatever the act is called I HATE IT. It's not like they monitor you perpetually but just set a FOOT out of line and they will access ever place you have ever been and nail you for SOMETHING. It's evil.
I think it's done more to decrease like, civil protests and whatnot than probably anything else. I barely want to look through my OWN internet history, let alone the government doing it.
And no, I'm sorry NO terrorism justified it . NOTHING justified it or could.
I have a secret love for W and I like to think they used him but had I been president I would have been "NO. JUST NO. I GET YOU SAY SO DADDY but NO.'
Anna
Okay flavors and vaping still exist and you can buy many of them at various discounts, at various places. So, while we have no final answer the prez like, did not issue an immediate ecig ban. Today, it's a win.
Vape on, etc.
Anna
Vape on, etc.
Anna
Tribalism is an inherant trait of Homo sapiens. They know this, and so "identity politics" is used to separate the masses. It's been going on for decades... e.g. Hutu vs Tutsi.
I really don't see this as a partisan issue, politicians on both sides are guilty of making shoot from the hip decisions without researching the facts.
I kind of see politicians as one big tribe, forget the partisan part, seriously.
Any one of them would murder you in your sleep, should it be worth their while. Perhaps that is a bit harsh, but I think you get my drift.
Politicians are so used to getting their rear ends genuflected to and their knobs polished, I don't actually think they are like, aware that other members of the homo sapiens tribe are actually REAL.
Except when it comes to taxing them when suddenly they are real alright.
Tribalism can work as long as no one tribe gets too powerful. IDK.
Anna
Any one of them would murder you in your sleep, should it be worth their while. Perhaps that is a bit harsh, but I think you get my drift.
Politicians are so used to getting their rear ends genuflected to and their knobs polished, I don't actually think they are like, aware that other members of the homo sapiens tribe are actually REAL.
Except when it comes to taxing them when suddenly they are real alright.
Tribalism can work as long as no one tribe gets too powerful. IDK.
Anna
I'd pay money to watch this vape meeting. Would've been a hoot. I'd need it on DVR though because I'm sure I'd pause on the Romney stuff to be like he really said that? And then I'd laugh another 20 seconds at his nonsense. Yeah Mitt, it's so totally the flavors and not the nicotine that has kids attracted to eCigs.
I'm around 98% sure you could make "poop-flavored 50 mg nicotine eCigs" and weirdly, kids would be attracted to that. Obviously cause of the poop flavor. And all those cauliflower flavored 50 mg nic eCigs would undoubtedly be due to the flavor should any child suddenly find them palatable.
All I know is that ANTZ types at this meeting are incredibly lucky their public debates are with light weights. Get one of us in that room, and I'm pretty sure they'd be embarrassed. Easily. And badly.
I'm around 98% sure you could make "poop-flavored 50 mg nicotine eCigs" and weirdly, kids would be attracted to that. Obviously cause of the poop flavor. And all those cauliflower flavored 50 mg nic eCigs would undoubtedly be due to the flavor should any child suddenly find them palatable.
All I know is that ANTZ types at this meeting are incredibly lucky their public debates are with light weights. Get one of us in that room, and I'm pretty sure they'd be embarrassed. Easily. And badly.
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