The Provari Ripoff

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Thompson

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I'd say turn the price rage on the naughty sites rebranding & selling eGo batteries for $60 each. They are actually doing something wrong.

While provape does overcharge, to me the provari is the most accurately priced thing they sell. $5-7 for an eGo adapter, $12 for aw imr 16490s. Both can be found cheaper in moments. I have no intention of buying any accessories from them except maybe the extension cap.
 

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No one said the provari wasn't a good piece of hardware. The fundemental point( <<<<<< GET THAT "FUNDEMENTAL") is that it is over priced. You can't get one if you don't pay the vendor what their asking for it. And prices do vary. Starting from £140 upwards. So if this device was say £90 or even £100 then that would be a realistic price that reflects it's quality. Look at a pair of £200 nike trainers(sneakers) you know for a fact they are not worth half that but people still buy them. It's the same thing with "provape". They are making a name for themselves. Never again will this company let their products go for what their worth because these things have become "fashionable" now. People don't mind over paying for fashion do they. Provape will soon be selling expensive polo shirts and fitted caps with their logo on. Please don't tell me you don't know what i mean. I mean would you buy a jacket for £500 pound just because it has a ferrari label on it.

Fashionable? Maybe. Well built? Definitely. The thing that you, as someone who has never owned OR(by your own admission) used, are missing is its the BUILD QUALITY(get that "build quality") that makes the Provari worth the money to the people who buy it. I own several different PV's, the Provari is the only one I KNOW I will still be able to use four years down the line. The others? Who knows. But to come here, where people ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, and spout off pure unadulterated BS and expect to be taken seriously....

If you don't want/cant afford one that's whatever man. But to bash it WITHOUT trying or owning it is the epitome of ignorance.
 

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The thing is, and it's quite simple: the consumers set the price. If people DIDN'T feel provari was worth the price they wouldn't buy it, and either it would be reduced or cease to exist. No amount of hype can force people to buy something they don't personally feel is worth it. They didn't create their reputation, it was earned. You think it's too high, others disagree, so the price is set. Buying through a UK vendor you're paying provape price, plus shipping, plus your local vendors mark-up.

CNC time is not cheap, and once you hit SS it really starts to add up compared to aluminum. The tools used to cut it run in the hundreds, and SS eats them up. Walk into a shop and you're looking at people who won't even turn on the machine for less than 100$.
 

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No one said the provari wasn't a good piece of hardware. The fundemental point( <<<<<< GET THAT "FUNDEMENTAL") is that it is over priced. You can't get one if you don't pay the vendor what their asking for it. And prices do vary. Starting from £140 upwards. So if this device was say £90 or even £100 then that would be a realistic price that reflects it's quality. Look at a pair of £200 nike trainers(sneakers) you know for a fact they are not worth half that but people still buy them. It's the same thing with "provape". They are making a name for themselves. Never again will this company let their products go for what their worth because these things have become "fashionable" now. People don't mind over paying for fashion do they. Provape will soon be selling expensive polo shirts and fitted caps with their logo on. Please don't tell me you don't know what i mean. I mean would you buy a jacket for £500 pound just because it has a ferrari label on it.



No, I mean come on that would be silly!
I would pay at least twice that if the same jacket had a Provape label on it though ! :ohmy:

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Just kidding, but I think threads like this are just as silly,,

Merry Christmas ;)
 

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I'm going to "defend" the Provari and honestly I have no desire to own one. I use mechanical apv's made in the states and willingly pay the extra cost incurred by the use of paying a living wage. If my P-18 had been produced by children living in "dormitories" next to the factory, would that really be a better or "just as good value"?
 

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About two months ago my shower blew up. That isn't an exaggeration, blue flash, large bang. lights out. Never mind the shock of seeing a big blue flash of electricity when you are standing in water!

It turned out a connector had overheated, the insulation on the live cable melted and it shorted against the neutral. The shower had blown, the shower switch went, the shower fuse went and the 80A house mains fuse ran away screaming.

It was Saturday afternoon and my landlord's office doesn't open at weekends so I knew I'd have no electricity until Monday daytime at the earliest. As it turned out my electricity was switched back on Monday evening.

No electricity, that is a bit of a problem for a vaper.

So this is what I did, I grabbed a Vivi Nova (easy to refill in virtual darkness), took every 18490 and 18650 battery I have out of my PVs and I reached for my ProVari.

What I needed was the most reliable PV I have, I knew I'd be spending time in the dark and the last thing I needed was more drama. It is not the most efficient PV electricity wise but as a trade off against peace of mind, no contest. It gave me that much needed feeling of security. Until this point I hadn't realised how much I actually appreciated my ProVari.

Was it worth the money? For the peace of mind of reliability right when I needed it, oh yes!

I am not a ProVari fanboy, i have other devices that I prefer, but it is what it is and it does it particularly well.
 

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This will be the last post i'm going to make on this thread. Let me put things into perspective. Take the Theatrical fog machine. Prices vary but not as expensive as the provari. A fog machine produces endless clouds of vapour using PG or VG. The provari doesn't even produce 1% of 1% what a fog machine can produce in one minute. The two devices do exactly the same thing there is no debate about that (Both devices produce vapour from pg and vg). The companies that make fog machines do not take advantage of their customers needs and therefore sell their products at a reasonable price. Provape on the other hand saw the market for devices that "nicotine addicts" NEED and took "full advantage" of that market by over pricing their provari device. And to cap it all off their existing customers go online to indorse provapes products for free in the ecf website.. I don't see TOO many people complaining about my comments on this thread. There are more people in ecf as we speak that don't have a provari than those that do. So why is that provari owners ?. I suppose YOU'D say everyone is too poor right !. Well aren't you lucky !.
 

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    I find it kinda strange that it's always those that have never had a Provari that find a need to justify not having one. The reality is that no one cares if someone wants one,(or has one) or not. It isn't like a person can't vape just because they don't have a Provari.

    I have a Provari, and I'm glad I do. Based on the track record of my first Lava Tube, I would be on my third one by now.
    That's not to say that the Provari is the only good PV out there. I've had my little Mako for almost 2 years now,and it still works as well as the day I got it (made in England BTW), and I can say the same for my Silver Bullet.
     

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    This will be the last post i'm going to make on this thread. Let me put things into perspective. Take the Theatrical fog machine. Prices vary but not as expensive as the provari. A fog machine produces endless clouds of vapour using PG or VG. The provari doesn't even produce 1% of 1% what a fog machine can produce in one minute. The two devices do exactly the same thing there is no debate about that (Both devices produce vapour from pg and vg). The companies that make fog machines do not take advantage of their customers needs and therefore sell their products at a reasonable price. Provape on the other hand saw the market for devices that "nicotine addicts" NEED and took "full advantage" of that market by over pricing their provari device. And to cap it all off their existing customers go online to indorse provapes products for free in the ecf website.. I don't see TOO many people complaining about my comments on this thread. There are more people in ecf as we speak that don't have a provari than those that do. So why is that provari owners ?. I suppose YOU'D say everyone is too poor right !. Well aren't you lucky !.

    I would like to vape using a fog machine, that would be incredible.
     

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    This will be the last post i'm going to make on this thread. Let me put things into perspective. Take the Theatrical fog machine. Prices vary but not as expensive as the provari. A fog machine produces endless clouds of vapour using PG or VG. The provari doesn't even produce 1% of 1% what a fog machine can produce in one minute. The two devices do exactly the same thing there is no debate about that (Both devices produce vapour from pg and vg). The companies that make fog machines do not take advantage of their customers needs and therefore sell their products at a reasonable price. Provape on the other hand saw the market for devices that "nicotine addicts" NEED and took "full advantage" of that market by over pricing their provari device. And to cap it all off their existing customers go online to indorse provapes products for free in the ecf website.. I don't see TOO many people complaining about my comments on this thread. There are more people in ecf as we speak that don't have a provari than those that do. So why is that provari owners ?. I suppose YOU'D say everyone is too poor right !. Well aren't you lucky !.




    With your vast experience and multiple valuable contributions to the ECF Community it's shocking that folks aren't all fawning over your Drive By post.




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    There's no "need" for a provari. You even pointed it out: the tens of thousands of ECF members who don't own one and are perfectly content without (nay, the several MILLION Ecig users worldwide). People also rave about the twist, and the LT, and the *max, etc etc etc, all of which are being sold at several hundred % of their manufacturing cost. If anything I'd wager that provape has lower margins than most of these units.

    Off topic kinda but:
    I would like to vape using a fog machine, that would be incredible.
    Vaping at 400 Watts - YouTube
     

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    This will be the last post i'm going to make on this thread. Let me put things into perspective. Take the Theatrical fog machine. Prices vary but not as expensive as the provari. A fog machine produces endless clouds of vapour using PG or VG. The provari doesn't even produce 1% of 1% what a fog machine can produce in one minute. The two devices do exactly the same thing there is no debate about that (Both devices produce vapour from pg and vg). The companies that make fog machines do not take advantage of their customers needs and therefore sell their products at a reasonable price. Provape on the other hand saw the market for devices that "nicotine addicts" NEED and took "full advantage" of that market by over pricing their provari device. And to cap it all off their existing customers go online to indorse provapes products for free in the ecf website.. I don't see TOO many people complaining about my comments on this thread. There are more people in ecf as we speak that don't have a provari than those that do. So why is that provari owners ?. I suppose YOU'D say everyone is too poor right !. Well aren't you lucky !.


    Take advantage of!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You got to be kidding me, or did you even bother to look back at the fact if it wasn't for Provari and the rep they have built over the last couple of YEARS, you wouldn't have your lava tube or your v-max or z-max.

    As to the everyone is too poor, in this economy there are a lot of us who can't afford one. I happen to be one of them, that is no reason for me to bash them. Provari also isn't the highest cost pv out.
     

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    This will be the last post i'm going to make on this thread. Let me put things into perspective. Take the Theatrical fog machine. Prices vary but not as expensive as the provari. A fog machine produces endless clouds of vapour using PG or VG. The provari doesn't even produce 1% of 1% what a fog machine can produce in one minute. The two devices do exactly the same thing there is no debate about that (Both devices produce vapour from pg and vg). The companies that make fog machines do not take advantage of their customers needs and therefore sell their products at a reasonable price. Provape on the other hand saw the market for devices that "nicotine addicts" NEED and took "full advantage" of that market by over pricing their provari device. And to cap it all off their existing customers go online to indorse provapes products for free in the ecf website.. I don't see TOO many people complaining about my comments on this thread. There are more people in ecf as we speak that don't have a provari than those that do. So why is that provari owners ?. I suppose YOU'D say everyone is too poor right !. Well aren't you lucky !.

    Wow.. I mean... Really?
     

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    This will be the last post i'm going to make on this thread. Let me put things into perspective. Take the Theatrical fog machine. Prices vary but not as expensive as the provari. A fog machine produces endless clouds of vapour using PG or VG. The provari doesn't even produce 1% of 1% what a fog machine can produce in one minute. The two devices do exactly the same thing there is no debate about that (Both devices produce vapour from pg and vg). The companies that make fog machines do not take advantage of their customers needs and therefore sell their products at a reasonable price. Provape on the other hand saw the market for devices that "nicotine addicts" NEED and took "full advantage" of that market by over pricing their provari device. And to cap it all off their existing customers go online to indorse provapes products for free in the ecf website.. I don't see TOO many people complaining about my comments on this thread. There are more people in ecf as we speak that don't have a provari than those that do. So why is that provari owners ?. I suppose YOU'D say everyone is too poor right !. Well aren't you lucky !.

    So you want to start a flame war, then run off once it gets to "involved" for you? Yeah, you really are acting like a troll now!
    As for the fog machine being cheaper, sure, it is. Now take that fog machine and make it portable and run off of batteries. I'm sure it would still be a lot cheaper than a Provari then as well:facepalm:
    There have been a few that slammed you for monetary reasons, as you came out like a bull in a china closet with the OP you should have expected that!
    Again, if you are happy with what you have, that's great, I'm happy for you, I'm glad you are off of cigs and moving forward. But for you to all but come out and call me an idiot for getting fleeced by Provape for my choice, I don't much care for that. Then for you to tuck tail and run off when many of us have tried to be cordial and discuss this, without paying any heed to our opinion, well, I can't say what I really feel about that without getting banned! You want to have a discussion, great, but I really don't get the feeling that is what you where after to start with. I think you just wanted to bash something and spread some hate. Rather sad and pathetic IMO.
     

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    This will be the last post i'm going to make on this thread. Let me put things into perspective. Take the Theatrical fog machine. Prices vary but not as expensive as the provari. A fog machine produces endless clouds of vapour using PG or VG. The provari doesn't even produce 1% of 1% what a fog machine can produce in one minute. The two devices do exactly the same thing there is no debate about that (Both devices produce vapour from pg and vg). The companies that make fog machines do not take advantage of their customers needs and therefore sell their products at a reasonable price. Provape on the other hand saw the market for devices that "nicotine addicts" NEED and took "full advantage" of that market by over pricing their provari device. And to cap it all off their existing customers go online to indorse provapes products for free in the ecf website.. I don't see TOO many people complaining about my comments on this thread. There are more people in ecf as we speak that don't have a provari than those that do. So why is that provari owners ?. I suppose YOU'D say everyone is too poor right !. Well aren't you lucky !.


    Wow.. I mean..just Wow!....Really?
     
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