After much testing and comparison I recently took the opportunity to post my conclusions in a couple of recent threads, one on juice ( http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...discussion/65569-search-perfect-e-liquid.html ), one on e-cigs, and a follow up posting my recommended first order package.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/electronic-cigarette-reviews/64170-search-perfect-e-cig.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ion/64816-my-first-order-20-20-hindsight.html
Through following comments on these posts and getting responses Ive learned a lot about the preferences of others and wanted to start one more thread on this lest I be accused of simply being a subjective fan-boy for the KR. For one thing, somebody followed my advice and bought a KR and then posted what I considered to be disappointing results, partially due to the juice and supplier used, but also partially because of the way the KR really performs.
So, I want to clarify.
KR vs 510:
I VAPE AT HIGH VOLTAGE I use either a 5 Volt Prodigy with an 801 to Cartomizer or 510 to Cartomizer adapter, or I use a KR USB Pass-thru. The vast majority of the time my Cartomizer doesnt even have the plastic tip on it I just leave it open and drip all the time to keep it wet. I use quality juices (no Ruyan/Dekang at least not straight I use a lot of Nobacco, Ms. Ts, Tasty Vapor, and some Decadent and ECOpure). By this means I always have stellar performance in what I consider to be the three primary performance factors, in order of importance to me: Flavor, Vapor, and Throat Hit.
I do NOT say that the 510 does not perform well in any of these areas, in fact I think the 510 is a star (even more so at 5 volts). As far as my narrow mind is concerned it is the only other e-cig out there besides the KR. Im using up my stock of 801s (& RN4072s) and 901s (& RN4075s) with no intent to ever restock because if I want a normal type atty instead of a Cartomizer for whatever reason, then I prefer a 510. But, with my habits described above I do prefer the KR over the 510 by a pretty decent margin (and with my habits described above the other Cartomizer options like GreenTech dont compare to the KR any better than a 901 compares to a 510).
The big downsides for me on the 510 are convenience and the troubles all normal attys seem to suffer from (performance slowly going downhill over time). Many folks say the 510 is more convenient than the KR because it is easier to pop the cap and refill. Maybe I dont get it because the KR is easy enough to refill, and I get five attys for the price of one 510 so it just seems simpler to pop and fill five cartos than to fill one atty five separate times. Or maybe it is that refilling is just a back up plan for me anyway, as I said, the vast majority of the time I just leave it open and happily drip away without having to remove even a whistle tip, and in that case, you have to re-drip a 510 about every 4 drops or so while you have to re-drip a KR about every 8 drops or so to keep it wet.
BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT here is how to fail with a KR: all you have to do is expect to get the performance I describe above when using a pre-filled (probably not full) carto on a standard 3.7 volt battery from a discount supplier. It aint gonna happen. Especially if you throw in cheap juice and one of the old 5-second cut off batteries. If I lead anyone to believe otherwise I apologize. I still use this set up for portable convenience quite frequently, or when I just want that small battery size feel, but it just is not the same thing as how I like to vape as described above. If you want an instant big hit off of a portable battery you will probably be better impressed with a 510! The 510 often makes a great first impression due to the larger hit with a shorter drag from a new atomizer. Is the 510 battery life short? Yeah, it takes power to produce that hit, but if that is what you are looking for then I would say shorter battery life is probably a better compromise than sub-par performance.
Me, I want a premium experience and have found that for me it is direct dripping a KR at 5 volts, so I am more than happy to stick with a KR (or two at a time) at 3.7 volts when I need a little unit. Does that mean the 510 sucks? No! I love the 510. I just love it second because of the way I use.
Many thanks to Kent C, Ryum, Meltmanbob, and the V4L forum frequenters for their comments in my other threads whether you are an old timer or a noob Ive picked up a lot of good info and perspective from you guys and hope to see more feedback here. Im blowing a big cloud of Ms. T Honey in your face right now; it is an expression of gratitude.
Love,
Uzza
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/electronic-cigarette-reviews/64170-search-perfect-e-cig.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ion/64816-my-first-order-20-20-hindsight.html
Through following comments on these posts and getting responses Ive learned a lot about the preferences of others and wanted to start one more thread on this lest I be accused of simply being a subjective fan-boy for the KR. For one thing, somebody followed my advice and bought a KR and then posted what I considered to be disappointing results, partially due to the juice and supplier used, but also partially because of the way the KR really performs.
So, I want to clarify.
KR vs 510:
I VAPE AT HIGH VOLTAGE I use either a 5 Volt Prodigy with an 801 to Cartomizer or 510 to Cartomizer adapter, or I use a KR USB Pass-thru. The vast majority of the time my Cartomizer doesnt even have the plastic tip on it I just leave it open and drip all the time to keep it wet. I use quality juices (no Ruyan/Dekang at least not straight I use a lot of Nobacco, Ms. Ts, Tasty Vapor, and some Decadent and ECOpure). By this means I always have stellar performance in what I consider to be the three primary performance factors, in order of importance to me: Flavor, Vapor, and Throat Hit.
I do NOT say that the 510 does not perform well in any of these areas, in fact I think the 510 is a star (even more so at 5 volts). As far as my narrow mind is concerned it is the only other e-cig out there besides the KR. Im using up my stock of 801s (& RN4072s) and 901s (& RN4075s) with no intent to ever restock because if I want a normal type atty instead of a Cartomizer for whatever reason, then I prefer a 510. But, with my habits described above I do prefer the KR over the 510 by a pretty decent margin (and with my habits described above the other Cartomizer options like GreenTech dont compare to the KR any better than a 901 compares to a 510).
The big downsides for me on the 510 are convenience and the troubles all normal attys seem to suffer from (performance slowly going downhill over time). Many folks say the 510 is more convenient than the KR because it is easier to pop the cap and refill. Maybe I dont get it because the KR is easy enough to refill, and I get five attys for the price of one 510 so it just seems simpler to pop and fill five cartos than to fill one atty five separate times. Or maybe it is that refilling is just a back up plan for me anyway, as I said, the vast majority of the time I just leave it open and happily drip away without having to remove even a whistle tip, and in that case, you have to re-drip a 510 about every 4 drops or so while you have to re-drip a KR about every 8 drops or so to keep it wet.
BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT here is how to fail with a KR: all you have to do is expect to get the performance I describe above when using a pre-filled (probably not full) carto on a standard 3.7 volt battery from a discount supplier. It aint gonna happen. Especially if you throw in cheap juice and one of the old 5-second cut off batteries. If I lead anyone to believe otherwise I apologize. I still use this set up for portable convenience quite frequently, or when I just want that small battery size feel, but it just is not the same thing as how I like to vape as described above. If you want an instant big hit off of a portable battery you will probably be better impressed with a 510! The 510 often makes a great first impression due to the larger hit with a shorter drag from a new atomizer. Is the 510 battery life short? Yeah, it takes power to produce that hit, but if that is what you are looking for then I would say shorter battery life is probably a better compromise than sub-par performance.
Me, I want a premium experience and have found that for me it is direct dripping a KR at 5 volts, so I am more than happy to stick with a KR (or two at a time) at 3.7 volts when I need a little unit. Does that mean the 510 sucks? No! I love the 510. I just love it second because of the way I use.
Many thanks to Kent C, Ryum, Meltmanbob, and the V4L forum frequenters for their comments in my other threads whether you are an old timer or a noob Ive picked up a lot of good info and perspective from you guys and hope to see more feedback here. Im blowing a big cloud of Ms. T Honey in your face right now; it is an expression of gratitude.
Love,
Uzza
