Understandably. Now that I think about it, why would peach or mango have that citrus bite?
To tell you the truth I've packed away all of my NN flavorings until they choose to become transparent with their questionable ingredients for those of us that care to make informed decisions on what we vape. After reading your post however, I pulled out and vaped 1ml of the PFCC I mixed on 5/3 @ 3% and heat steeped. I normally prefer all flavors at very low % and as usual for me found 3% too strong so I added a bit of unflavored. Much better. I get the coconut at the lower % but more like a coconut fruit lifesaver.
I wonder if we should go back to the main thread and request thejaker to list which flavors have acetoin and/or propionyl in them and which have ZERO in them? (do I remember correctly that he already stated he doesn't use diacetyl?)
This request has been made a few times and ignored. He stated diacetyl free but that they do use acetoin which is another risk for inhalation chemical. It's just crazy to me that they won't release this info to us. Many people don't care about the risk as it seems to be fairly low but we should have that knowledge to make our own informed choices.
Boysenberry mixed with pancakes was my favorite. I had to go easy on the boysenberry tho as it could quickly overpower but man o man at the right balance was it was phenomenal. I was really hoping to try the honey tobacco with pancakes too
No doubt! It really makes one wonder what they have to hide when they're not forthcoming with requested information. As much as I love so many of NN's flavors I've switched to a manufacturer that clearly discloses the ingredients.
I can't find any manufactures of PG-FREE flavors that disclose all the ingredients. I've heard FA and TFA but they are PG-based flavors which I can't use
There aren't any outside of NN to my knowledge. There's only 2 that produce a line without PG; Nature Flavor's (which frustrate me and I don't like the alcohol content; related to PG allergies, etc) and Vaping Zone's (VZ). No one seems to know where VZ comes from other than China. That's acceptace of risk if you want to vape flavored. I doubt if the landscape will improve based on recent FDA information.
There is a sticky that lists PG free flavorings but many are cherry picked and formula's seem to change frequently. Some are questionable for other reasons (triacetin or oil based?) and I've used a few listed there (Loriann's) but it always requires double checking the formulation.
Some manufacturers are not interested in selling to the vaping industry and so they aren't welcoming questions about formulation.
Diketones are the last thing I'm worried about anymore.
I working on this combo now, can you share what % of each you ended up at? 4% pancake and 2% boysenberry seams a bit strong at 1 week.
I can't find any manufactures of PG-FREE flavors that disclose all the ingredients. I've heard FA and TFA but they are PG-based flavors which I can't use
Thank you, I'll try much lower %.I settled on 2.25% pancakes and .25 boysenberry. More than that and the boysenberry took over. I always mix at low % and I could have gone down a bit still but this may not be strong enough for others taste.