New survey from ASH

[Plum]

Just saw this in the Daily Mail. Hope it's okay to post the link as it is a positive piece, for once.

E-cigarettes AREN'T encouraging people to take up smoking | Mail Online

 

[Anjaffm]

Wow! In the Daily Mail??? Holy mackerel! No FUD, lies, horse manure and scare mongering???
(except the links to the 3 e-cigs-will-kill-you-your-dog-and-your-canary-too FUD crappy articles they published before )
What on earth is going on?

Professor Robert West, who led the study, said: 'Despite claims that use of electronic cigarettes risks renormalising smoking, we found no evidence to support this view. On the contrary, electronic cigarettes may be helping to reduce smoking as more people use them as an aid to quitting.'

Charles Hamshaw-Thomas, legal and corporate affairs director of e-cigarette company E-Lites, said: 'Study after study is showing that scaremongering that e-cigarettes are luring people into tobacco is baseless nonsense. The reverse is going on - smokers are switching into e-cigarettes as the way to reduce the harm from tobacco.'

I love it, love it, love it!
(But I cannot help feeling suspicious.... something is going on. As if the Pope had turned Muslim all of a sudden. Hm..... I am kind of waiting for things to come... )

 

[Plum]

Well, as regards your suspicions..
One of the comments said it was if now they are planning to legislate it's "like they've" given the green light to the media to say positive things about them, so "they" can only sell overpriced Big Pharma versions, that will be the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[Anjaffm]

Hm... not convinced, dear.

Ok, Big tobacco is jumping into the market. Big T has clout. And money.
Big Pharma has been opposing e-cigs like the devil opposes holy water. Of course. E-cigs are competition to useless and costly NRT's. And - not to forget this point - smokers switching to e-cigs will be much less likely to develop those smoking-related diseases that make a bundle for Big P.
But Big P coming up with anything resembling a workable e-cig? On the day that hell freezes over....

/edit:
Unless.... Big P is preparing for medical regulation in the UK. When they can sell some useless e-cig imitates to the NHS for a lot of money. And the NHS distributes that worthless, useless crap to smokers, like gums and patches. And Big P makes a bundle off that stuff.

Stuff sold. Stuff does not work. Smokers continue to smoke. Smokers get sick. Big P makes a bundle.

Hey... you got a point there, after all.

 

[Plum]

"Best thing since sliced bread" is a sarcasm!
Meaning that big Pharma just want to take it over and produce things that fail, so you keep going back to their products again and again to try and quit.

 

[Plum]

/edit:
Unless.... Big P is preparing for medical regulation in the UK. When they can sell some useless e-cig imitates to the NHS for a lot of money. And the NHS distributes that worthless, useless crap to smokers, like gums and patches. And Big P makes a bundle off that stuff.

Stuff sold. Stuff does not work. Smokers continue to smoke. Smokers get sick. Big P makes a bundle.

Hey... you got a point there, after all. [/QUOTE]


Precisely!

 

[Anjaffm]

@Plum:
Same time posting
Yeah, that is the only thing that makes sense. Especially in the UK. Where - if I am informed correctly - the National Health Service (= government agency) buys up (with taxpayers money) the stuff that they then distribute to the patients. Having the government (or gov't agency) buy up Big P's worthless crap for a lot of money would be ... to Big P .. the best thing since Tamiflu.
And we all remember the big huge "pandemic" flu scare that the press fanned quite happily.

Yeah, I think you got a point there.

/edit:
For those not familiar with the big huge gigantic Tamiflu ... uhm.... (looking for a half-way neutral word).. uhm... business deal, see here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/s...s-given-for-swine-flu-were-waste-of-500m.html

And yes, the German government bought a lot of the stuff as well. Much of which must now be destroyed. Just like burning money. Tax money, I may add.

 

[Sirius]

Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.
~Will Rogers

 

[DrMA]

Finally, the right keywords are emerging: «Study after study is showing that scaremongering that e-cigarettes are luring people into tobacco is baseless nonsense.» Take that Stan!

Thanks for posting, OP!

 

[Uma]

On the heels of this excellent article, comes yet another. Hmmmm, I wonder if somebody tried to do some damage control with the first. lol. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...packaging-grant-application-and-fund-decision

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

This is the problem the FDA/BP cabal have, they lost their best chance to kill the e-cig when they lost the court case on them being a medical device. Now the truth is coming out with the honest studies and surveys and even the mainstream media can no longer ignore the facts.

That's why there is so much waffling in the proposed regulations, they know that we can and will use the truth to undermine the bovine excrement they and their minions have been spreading.

 

[Anjaffm]

On the heels of this excellent article, comes yet another. Hmmmm, I wonder if somebody tried to do some damage control with the first. lol. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...packaging-grant-application-and-fund-decision

Wow! Just wow! Great find, dear!

"For the Government to in effect spend money to lobby itself is ridiculous and unjustifiable in equal measure. This improper funding relationship should stop and the Government should investigate this and any other similar arrangements to ensure taxpayers' money is not abused in this way".

I could not agree more.

So you think that ASH is now engaging in an attempt to control damage (to itself)?

 

[Danoman]

Wow! In the Daily Mail??? Holy mackerel! No FUD, lies, horse manure and scare mongering???
(except the links to the 3 e-cigs-will-kill-you-your-dog-and-your-canary-too FUD crappy articles they published before )
What on earth is going on?



I love it, love it, love it!
(But I cannot help feeling suspicious.... something is going on. As if the Pope had turned Muslim all of a sudden. Hm..... I am kind of waiting for things to come... )

Hahahaha... after this last week, i'm starting to think the Pope is. (jk)