New Illinois law bans e-cigarette use in public places beginning Jan. 1
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And following the link to the EPA's site:
"Could be". In other words, we have no real evidence that there is.
"More research is needed." But let's ban it anyway.
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In 2010 I wanted to open up a Vape Shop in a small town in Illinois. The State Legislators were close to outlawing the sales of Vape, E-cigs and the likes. After sitting down with my State Rep, He assured me it would be a hard thing to get approved but told me it wasn't a 100% possibility that it wouldn't happen.
The handwriting was on the wall. Anything that went against Big Pharma was going to be an uphill battle. They were buying out the Politicians and everyone else who would get in their way.
I finally just gave up on the idea.
Add to that, the 2008 crash was still effecting the State and my area especially.
It hurt us financially BIG TIME, But theres more. My Prop Taxes and fuel at $4.25 a gal as well as everything else going up drove me out of the State.
So now, I'm in Western NC. Prop taxes are 1/10th for double the land/house. Gas was $3.10 a gal at that time and the general cost of living was down 40ish %.
Good Riddance Illinois!
The handwriting was on the wall. Anything that went against Big Pharma was going to be an uphill battle. They were buying out the Politicians and everyone else who would get in their way.
I finally just gave up on the idea.
Add to that, the 2008 crash was still effecting the State and my area especially.
It hurt us financially BIG TIME, But theres more. My Prop Taxes and fuel at $4.25 a gal as well as everything else going up drove me out of the State.
So now, I'm in Western NC. Prop taxes are 1/10th for double the land/house. Gas was $3.10 a gal at that time and the general cost of living was down 40ish %.
Good Riddance Illinois!
One other reason I left Illinois.
The entire state and especially Chi-town was getting out of control with taxes, regs, etc.
Good riddance.
The entire state and especially Chi-town was getting out of control with taxes, regs, etc.
Good riddance.
Bomb.
I lived there...Illinois. What happened is they shut down smoking in ALL restaurants, so what did I and My Friends do? We drove 15 miles north to Wisconsin and enjoyed a good smoke with our meal as always. I'm not advocating smoking but what I will say is a restaurant with a good ionizer would knock the smoke out of the air to the point those sitting across from you never could even smell it... BUT... That wasn't an option to enforce particulates which can be tested with a hand held meter.
The restaurants suffered greatly since the waitresses knew their best tippers were smokers and those who sat around for a long time.
Then they later tried to eliminate vape. As stated in an above post, it nixed me from even considering starting a retail sales outlet.
All said and done I escaped the clutches of that damned state.
I lived there...Illinois. What happened is they shut down smoking in ALL restaurants, so what did I and My Friends do? We drove 15 miles north to Wisconsin and enjoyed a good smoke with our meal as always. I'm not advocating smoking but what I will say is a restaurant with a good ionizer would knock the smoke out of the air to the point those sitting across from you never could even smell it... BUT... That wasn't an option to enforce particulates which can be tested with a hand held meter.
The restaurants suffered greatly since the waitresses knew their best tippers were smokers and those who sat around for a long time.
Then they later tried to eliminate vape. As stated in an above post, it nixed me from even considering starting a retail sales outlet.
All said and done I escaped the clutches of that damned state.
Yeah, Illinois had the same stupidity about standing away from a doorway X feet when smoking and it extended to other extremes as well.. I can't speak for Vape since it's been ten+ years since I left..
I never smoked or vaped around those who are non-#####'s just out of respect. That said IF they started a verbal attack even when away from me, I will light into them.
I had a 400lbish+ woman in a Restaurant parking lot ..... about how this stuff was bad for me and her...she was very offended, I lit into Her. "Woman, Lose 300 lbs and eat the salad before discussing health issues with me!"" Of course that ended to conversation and she went into the restaurant in a huff.
I never smoked or vaped around those who are non-#####'s just out of respect. That said IF they started a verbal attack even when away from me, I will light into them.
I had a 400lbish+ woman in a Restaurant parking lot ..... about how this stuff was bad for me and her...she was very offended, I lit into Her. "Woman, Lose 300 lbs and eat the salad before discussing health issues with me!"" Of course that ended to conversation and she went into the restaurant in a huff.
I’m in Minnesota, where e-cigs are a “tobacco product” and everything that applies to cigarettes applies to e-cigs. Including stupidity like” 25 feet from any public thoroughfare or doorway”. This is one the cigarette manufacturers fought hard for because winter is cold, and if you’re going to make someone stand out in the cold if it was just cigarette smokers people would vape just for warmth. Step two would me to attempt to make it WORSE for vapers than cigarette smokers. Seems they haven’t completed step one in Illinois like they did in Minnesota.
There ya go.
I don't go there, yet I have my beliefs as You do, but to get punchy about it deviates from the topic.
Again one sentence doesn't constitute the entire threads meaning... until corrupted.
I don't go there, yet I have my beliefs as You do, but to get punchy about it deviates from the topic.
Again one sentence doesn't constitute the entire threads meaning... until corrupted.
I can vouch for that!
I would have kept you around because I think that place needs a more balanced group. All sides should be heard, despite any differences.
FWIW, the three main players turned on me a while back. Guess I upset them, you know, it's their way or else. The surfing character has not been seen in many months. I still post there occasionally. They no longer reply to my posts, they just let me be.
Also, it is very dead over there compared to what it used to be.
getting back on-topic is very simple..........
Oh jeez, it sucks that a new Illinois law bans ecig use in well defined public places.
But........ it is their state, their laws.
I doubt that they will be the only state to do so. One or two or three may have enacted similar legislation already.
Oh jeez, it sucks that a new Illinois law bans ecig use in well defined public places.
But........ it is their state, their laws.
I doubt that they will be the only state to do so. One or two or three may have enacted similar legislation already.
The most stupid ban I’ve ever encountered is no vaping on a public beach. The reason is it looks like smoking, Beachgoers would call the law to enforce no cigarette rules, and wasting precious resources. So the city banned vaping because people couldn’t tell the difference.
I recall one of the tricks pulled years ago was the tobacco companies figured out that almost every chain restaurant comes out of Chicago so they go after Illinois especially hard because they can make such stuff effectively national by demanding compliance from chain restaurants
I read I think here about a guy who was vaping and actually got handed a cigarette by a stranger because the idiot who did it thought it was safer because he’d been marketed at by people who are using money to do it the cigarette companies paid aa a PUNISHMENT rather than to help them sell cigarettes. Which they were doing.
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