Refer to earlier thread, if you have not yet read it, http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ence-thus-far-white-cloud-cirrus-3-model.html
Well, made it past Easter without difficulty. Bummed a cigarette off my son as an experiment, and yup it tasted pretty darn yucky - rather like 'licking an ashtray', LOL. (I don't consider that going back to smoking as I did it to confirm that I do no longer like 'real' tobacco.) A couple weeks back we got a kit and tried mixing some of our own liquids. I am loving a Cinnamon Hotball with a touch of Menthol we made, and a Watermelon/Green Apple mix. I have been vaping mostly those since creating them and have used only a third of my White Cloud cartomizers. I have, however, been very pleased with my WC empties and have been using the same 2 cartos refilled several times with no problems (btw, when clean the WC cartos took about 24 drops of liquid, when refilling when they tasted low, they took about 14-16 drops). I found the cheap cartomizers I had bought to try tended to leak around the outside of the post at the bottom when I refilled one (I had blocked the hole in the center with the WC condom which has a hole-blocking 'finger' sticking up in the middle - very convenient, BTW); I did not have that problem with any WC carto - their posts have a visible clear rubber ring around the outside of the post. WC cartos are also slightly larger in diameter (about the thickness of the metal) and the metal is apparently a heavier gauge (the cheap one bent easily while removing the mouthpiece) and the mouthpiece is hard plastic with a separate o-ring inside.) It is possible some might want to try WC cartos for refilling purposes, or if they really want a flavor that is cigarette-like in feeling.
I'm not that interested any more in tobacco-style flavors, and somewhat regret my large purchase of those WC cartos; however, they did come in handy when showing 3 more smokers how satisfying a vaping experience can be. They liked the throat hit. They didn't like my custom flavors that much. I pointed them at the Volt, though, rather than the White Cloud Cirrus, and to this forum. I think I also would like to try the Volt. I will likely know more after this coming Saturday when I will be getting together with other Hoosier vapers - I have put off any further purchasing decisions until then.
I note that my son is finding the liquids we have mixed to be less satisfying than the WC cartos (he needs more ashtray flavor), but I'm having difficulty getting him to take any more WCs from me, though I may yet persuade him on the basis of I'm not using them... He is still at the early stages of the vape-when-you-want, smoke-when-you-want, method, and is vaping more and more using the inexpensive batteries and mostly WC cartos refilled with DIY liquids. He is already planning his eventual custom vaper along the lines of a hookah (as I suspected he would).
Me, I'm biding my time until the vape-along, and planning to get some chocolate flavor once I reread that thread, and maybe a clear-o-mizer or something like for sitting at home. I will know more soon, I hope.
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I thank those who took the time to contribute their opinions and experiences to my thread. I truly want anyone like my daughter who searches the internet in the future for information and reviews of the White Cloud Cirrus to find this thread with a variety of opinion and input to digest and not just review sites with affiliate links. I say again that the White Cloud Cirrus 3 did its job and got me to stop smoking analog cigarettes without me making much of an effort at all. I will also say that despite what some people insist about what is possible for a vaporizer of this just-like-a-cigarette type, my WC batteries that are 2/3 the length of the $14 battery last an hour or two longer than it does; my WC charger charges about half again as fast as my son's less expensive one (from the same vendor as the $14 batteries); my WC cartos are clearly of better quality (hardware) and flavor compared to the same inexpensive vendor's cartos. The rough numbers - in my pack-a-day smoker's experience with WC - 3 batteries will last 2 days (about 32 hours awake) when new, and about 6-8 hours each after 5 months and at an increased vaping frequency; the vapor production sharply falls off 2-3 pulls before recharge becomes necessary, but remains steady until then. Cartomizers produce full vapor at first pull about 85% of the time (the cheap ones require a starting puff or 2 usually) - and the WC carto on the WC battery is slightly better than the WC carto on the cheap battery and noticeably better than the cheap carto on the cheap battery. I find I vape more DIY liquid at ~16 mg/ml than I did of WC at the same mg (X level), but I think I have reached a stage where I am inclined to vape more anyway and I got there before I changed to DIY. I find WC cartos are worth at least 1 pack the first time around, and they DO 'recharge' when left to sit a day or more - the cheap ones never 'recharge' no matter how long I let them sit - I suspect a difference in the filling/batting used. Recharger recharges WC batteries in about 90 minutes and the cheap one in about 70 minutes.
Bottom line - TL,DNR - White Cloud Cirrus 3 does do what their website says it will do. However, there are generic choices at 1/10th the price that are at least 75% as good, and probably non-generic choices at about 1/5th the price that are as good, or better (I don't know yet from personal experience). So, if you already have a White Cloud system - don't despair - it IS good; but if you are considering buying one - I suggest you look further.... If you are naturally a tinkerer, read about the ego-types - especially the e-power as it appears to have the lowest battery replacement cost. If you want something as simple as possible, I suggest you consider the Volt or the Vapor4Life. I also suggest that you consider the cost of smoking for about 2 weeks and commit to spending about that much on this 'experiment' - that seems to me a reasonable 'cut-off', and if you find your starter kit for less, that leaves plenty for finding your favorite flavor. Good luck to all.
Well, made it past Easter without difficulty. Bummed a cigarette off my son as an experiment, and yup it tasted pretty darn yucky - rather like 'licking an ashtray', LOL. (I don't consider that going back to smoking as I did it to confirm that I do no longer like 'real' tobacco.) A couple weeks back we got a kit and tried mixing some of our own liquids. I am loving a Cinnamon Hotball with a touch of Menthol we made, and a Watermelon/Green Apple mix. I have been vaping mostly those since creating them and have used only a third of my White Cloud cartomizers. I have, however, been very pleased with my WC empties and have been using the same 2 cartos refilled several times with no problems (btw, when clean the WC cartos took about 24 drops of liquid, when refilling when they tasted low, they took about 14-16 drops). I found the cheap cartomizers I had bought to try tended to leak around the outside of the post at the bottom when I refilled one (I had blocked the hole in the center with the WC condom which has a hole-blocking 'finger' sticking up in the middle - very convenient, BTW); I did not have that problem with any WC carto - their posts have a visible clear rubber ring around the outside of the post. WC cartos are also slightly larger in diameter (about the thickness of the metal) and the metal is apparently a heavier gauge (the cheap one bent easily while removing the mouthpiece) and the mouthpiece is hard plastic with a separate o-ring inside.) It is possible some might want to try WC cartos for refilling purposes, or if they really want a flavor that is cigarette-like in feeling.
I'm not that interested any more in tobacco-style flavors, and somewhat regret my large purchase of those WC cartos; however, they did come in handy when showing 3 more smokers how satisfying a vaping experience can be. They liked the throat hit. They didn't like my custom flavors that much. I pointed them at the Volt, though, rather than the White Cloud Cirrus, and to this forum. I think I also would like to try the Volt. I will likely know more after this coming Saturday when I will be getting together with other Hoosier vapers - I have put off any further purchasing decisions until then.
I note that my son is finding the liquids we have mixed to be less satisfying than the WC cartos (he needs more ashtray flavor), but I'm having difficulty getting him to take any more WCs from me, though I may yet persuade him on the basis of I'm not using them... He is still at the early stages of the vape-when-you-want, smoke-when-you-want, method, and is vaping more and more using the inexpensive batteries and mostly WC cartos refilled with DIY liquids. He is already planning his eventual custom vaper along the lines of a hookah (as I suspected he would).
Me, I'm biding my time until the vape-along, and planning to get some chocolate flavor once I reread that thread, and maybe a clear-o-mizer or something like for sitting at home. I will know more soon, I hope.
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I thank those who took the time to contribute their opinions and experiences to my thread. I truly want anyone like my daughter who searches the internet in the future for information and reviews of the White Cloud Cirrus to find this thread with a variety of opinion and input to digest and not just review sites with affiliate links. I say again that the White Cloud Cirrus 3 did its job and got me to stop smoking analog cigarettes without me making much of an effort at all. I will also say that despite what some people insist about what is possible for a vaporizer of this just-like-a-cigarette type, my WC batteries that are 2/3 the length of the $14 battery last an hour or two longer than it does; my WC charger charges about half again as fast as my son's less expensive one (from the same vendor as the $14 batteries); my WC cartos are clearly of better quality (hardware) and flavor compared to the same inexpensive vendor's cartos. The rough numbers - in my pack-a-day smoker's experience with WC - 3 batteries will last 2 days (about 32 hours awake) when new, and about 6-8 hours each after 5 months and at an increased vaping frequency; the vapor production sharply falls off 2-3 pulls before recharge becomes necessary, but remains steady until then. Cartomizers produce full vapor at first pull about 85% of the time (the cheap ones require a starting puff or 2 usually) - and the WC carto on the WC battery is slightly better than the WC carto on the cheap battery and noticeably better than the cheap carto on the cheap battery. I find I vape more DIY liquid at ~16 mg/ml than I did of WC at the same mg (X level), but I think I have reached a stage where I am inclined to vape more anyway and I got there before I changed to DIY. I find WC cartos are worth at least 1 pack the first time around, and they DO 'recharge' when left to sit a day or more - the cheap ones never 'recharge' no matter how long I let them sit - I suspect a difference in the filling/batting used. Recharger recharges WC batteries in about 90 minutes and the cheap one in about 70 minutes.
Bottom line - TL,DNR - White Cloud Cirrus 3 does do what their website says it will do. However, there are generic choices at 1/10th the price that are at least 75% as good, and probably non-generic choices at about 1/5th the price that are as good, or better (I don't know yet from personal experience). So, if you already have a White Cloud system - don't despair - it IS good; but if you are considering buying one - I suggest you look further.... If you are naturally a tinkerer, read about the ego-types - especially the e-power as it appears to have the lowest battery replacement cost. If you want something as simple as possible, I suggest you consider the Volt or the Vapor4Life. I also suggest that you consider the cost of smoking for about 2 weeks and commit to spending about that much on this 'experiment' - that seems to me a reasonable 'cut-off', and if you find your starter kit for less, that leaves plenty for finding your favorite flavor. Good luck to all.
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