CR123A batteries

[Warped3k]

Ok, I have a question that I have been trying to figure out for a couple of days now.

CR123A batteries…For those that vape at HV on a chuck, do you use 3.0v or 3.6v batteries? From what I can tell, 3.0v are not protected, whereas the 3.6v have the option of protected. I have read that either one would drop down to approx. 3.0 under load, but I want confirmation on it. I think it would probably be insane vaping on (2) 3.6v batteries, unless it was somehow regulated down to about 3.0V (each cell) while under the load of the atty…

Now, I see that they make different chargers for both the 3v and 3.6v cr123A batteries. I just don't understand why they would make different voltages for a battery with the same name/model, very confusing...

Also, these two sites seem to have the same battery, but one is 3.0v and the other is 3.6v, what is it actually?

http://www.batteryjunction.com/uf16340.html

http://www.madvapes.com/Protected-16340RCR123A-30-V-Lithium-Ion-Battery_p_2213.html

 

[Quick1]

The batteries (Li-Ion) are naturally 3.7v batteries that charge to 4.2v. The 3.0v version have internal voltage regulators that will cut down the voltage as soon as the battery is put under load (100 ms?). Some people actually do vape with stacked 3.7v batteries. Many of those (most?) use HV atomizers that have a resistance of 4 to 5 ohms which gets the watts back into the ball park. 3.7v battery charged to 4.2v times 2 and you're vaping with over 8v. You are correct in assuming that the great majority of people vaping at "6v" are stacking 3.0v batteries. Keep in mind that "3.0v" is sort of a name as well and indicates the approximate nominal voltage. Stacking 2 3.0v batteries you will be vaping around 6.5 to 7v most of the time. It's all about wattage. Battery(s) and your atomizer together. Voltage (and the batteries capability to deliver current) and the resistance of the entire circuit determine the wattage or heat at the atomizer coil. There are quite a few combinations you can put together to get the end result you want but you can't just look at one component by itself.

 

[Warped3k]

Ok, so essentially with the ones marked as 3.0v you would most likely use an atty with around 3ohms, whereas vaping with 3.6v you would use something like 4.5ohms to get around the same amount of watts?

Also, from those two sites I listed, I believe those are the same batteries. Where ever I look for CR123A with the protected ultrafire 880mah capacity, I come up with 3.6v, not the 3.0v as listed on madvapes...do you have any idea on which is correct?

 

[Esmoking-NY]

madvapes has 16430 3.0v800 mah protected batteries

 

[Warped3k]

madvapes has 16430 3.0v800 mah protected batteries

Hmmm, on their website the description says 880mah, and if you look at the first picture zoomed in it clearly says 880mah on the left battery itself...

 

[Esmoking-NY]

I have a set of the 16430 at 800 i just bought them from madvapes

 

[Warped3k]

I have a set of the 16430 at 800 i just bought them from madvapes

Ok, well then that answers that, I guess they have their website mislabeled, or they hadn't re-updated it since they got 800 in or something...

 

[Esmoking-NY]

the picture on the site is not what they sent me the ones i have are slightly different in color

 

[Warped3k]

the picture on the site is not what they sent me the ones i have are slightly different in color

Ok, the ones you got clearly have a protection pcb on it right?

 

[Esmoking-NY]

yes they say protection circuit right on them

 

[Warped3k]

yes they say protection circuit right on them

Alright, then I will probably order some of those, thanks!

 

[Esmoking-NY]

these are what i have from madvapes

 

[Quick1]

Ok, so essentially with the ones marked as 3.0v you would most likely use an atty with around 3ohms, whereas vaping with 3.6v you would use something like 4.5ohms to get around the same amount of watts?

Yes, exactly.
3 ohms @ 7v ~= 16.3 watts
4.5 ohms @ 8v ~= 14.2 watts
close enough

The rCR123a and 16430 are not going to be the same size right?
R123a ==> L 34.5mm, D 17mm
16430 ==> L 43mm, D 16mm ??

 

[Esmoking-NY]

they are listed as the same on the site

 

[Esmoking-NY]

16mm across and 36 mm tall

 

[Esmoking-NY]

Protected 16340/RCR123A 3.0 V Lithium Ion Battery

 

[Esmoking-NY]

Protected 16340/RCR123A Lithium Ion Battery, 880mAH, 3.0 volts.

16mm across, 36mm tall. 800 mAH Special order for MadVapes. These are approximately 2 mm taller than a regular 123A Battery due to the protection circuit.
Pictures are approximate. Battery labels and colors may vary slightly at times depending on the manufacturer but always high quality, protected and the rated mAH. Price is per battery!

 

[Warped3k]

The rCR123a and 16430 are not going to be the same size right?
R123a ==> L 34.5mm, D 17mm
16430 ==> L 43mm, D 16mm ??

Interesting, yea because 2/3 of a AA is approx 34mm, now that is confusing...

EDIT: Actually its a 16340, so it would be 34mm, 16mm, close enough I guess

 

[Esmoking-NY]

they say 800 in the details

 

[Esmoking-NY]

i don't know how well they work i'm still waiting for my chuck