whole tobacco alkaloid and Depression.

[Hákon]

I started vaping last December after 30 years of analogs. It was a successful from day one, smoked 2 analogs the first day, one on day 2 and then no more. I really liked vaping and had finally found something that worked, or so I thought. After about 5- 6 weeks my mood started to darken. This is nothing new, have depression and complex PTSD and am on meds. For the last few years everything has been under control, meds worked fine and I had a good life. Week 8 and a was suffering the worst relapse in to depression for years, my Doctor turned up the meds, but no joy. Week 9 and I was suicidal, having problems sleeping and found my self on the brink of psychosis. After 48 hours of no sleep I went out and got some analogs, smoked 5 in a row and slept like a baby after. In the days that followed I was back to analogs full time and my mental state improved rapidly, now 2 months later I am back to my old self, meds working fine and all is good.


I have some questions. Has anyone else had a similar experience? If so, what did they do? Is it possible that this is due to the lack of whole tobacco alkaloids in E-liquid?

I would really like to go back to vaping as I felt all the benefits of not smoking for those 3 months.

 

[mmsjs5]

My 'episode' started after 6 weeks of full time vaping regular nic liquid (early 2010). My main problem was the inability to think straight, but I also had a severe lack of get up and go. I went back to cigarettes, part time, to see if that would get me back to normal, which it did. I found out about WTA mid 2012 and ordered it. I have been cigarette free since July 2012, and have not had the severe inability to think straight and my get up and go has returned.

Trying it for yourself is the only thing that will tell you if it can help you. You have much more going on than I did.

This is where I get mine.... Whole Tobacco Alkaloid WTA Eliquid Ejuice

There is a coupon code for that site if you decide to go for it.

 

[Hákon]

My 'episode' started after 6 weeks of full time vaping regular nic liquid (early 2010). My main problem was the inability to think straight, but I also had a severe lack of get up and go. I went back to cigarettes, part time, to see if that would get me back to normal, which it did. I found out about WTA mid 2012 and ordered it. I have been cigarette free since July 2012, and have not had the severe inability to think straight and my get up and go has returned.

Trying it for yourself is the only thing that will tell you if it can help you. You have much more going on than I did.

This is where I get mine.... Whole Tobacco Alkaloid WTA Eliquid Ejuice

There is a coupon code for that site if you decide to go for it.

Thank you so much for the answer

 

[BoogaWu]

Just as an aside of sorts, I have had some depression bouts when quiting in the past (tho for me NIC seems to do it) I still have some anger issues that NIC only juice doesn't seem to help with. I just grab a black and mild from the corner when I feel I need it, can't say I am an ex smoker for X number of days, but that 1cigar lasts me 4 days most times instead of 30 nails a day, so I don't let it bother me. Swedish snus supplies the WTAs, as does chew, if needed. I can get a can of longhorn for under $3 and can't even tell you how long it lasts, I know I have the one I bought before I had my son 11 months ago still. Options are good.

 

[Bunnykiller]

I still do my morning ciggie... and sometimes one after eating... I never intended to quit, just reduce my consumption of ciggies.
went from 3 PAD to 3-4 ciggies a day... ( I did quit completely for several months but a job change brought on extra stress and I unquit)

 

[Bunnykiller]

as far as WTA's they seem to work... but finding them is not really easy or inexpensive

 

[Hákon]

Thanks you all for you answers. I´m going to give the WTA from aromajuice a try.

 

[Hákon]

My 'episode' started after 6 weeks of full time vaping regular nic liquid (early 2010). My main problem was the inability to think straight, but I also had a severe lack of get up and go. I went back to cigarettes, part time, to see if that would get me back to normal, which it did. I found out about WTA mid 2012 and ordered it. I have been cigarette free since July 2012, and have not had the severe inability to think straight and my get up and go has returned.

Trying it for yourself is the only thing that will tell you if it can help you. You have much more going on than I did.

This is where I get mine.... Whole Tobacco Alkaloid WTA Eliquid Ejuice

There is a coupon code for that site if you decide to go for it.

I just ordered from Aromajuice and i have a qestion. Do you vape just pure Aromajuice or do you mix it with other Liquids? I ordered 24 mg nic. 70/30 with caramel and Vanila.

 

[mmsjs5]

I just ordered from Aromajuice and i have a qestion. Do you vape just pure Aromajuice or do you mix it with other Liquids? I ordered 24 mg nic. 70/30 with caramel and Vanila.

When I first started premixed 'infused' WTA, I mixed it 50/50 with regular nic liquid. I am down to 1 part 'infused' WTA to 6 parts regular nic liquid. They also have a DIY WTA that I have played with a bit, but haven't figured out the proportions, because the premixed is handy. Experiment with it til you find what is good for you.

I want to make sure that you ordered off of this page, Whole Tobacco Alkaloid WTA Eliquid Ejuice , because they also have liquids that do not have WTA in them. I don't see one with caramel and vanilla as the title.

This is what I usually get, Tobacco Road Red Tail Vapor ECigarette Refill with WTA , in 24mg.

 

[mmsjs5]

Just looked again, if you got this, RY4 with WTA infusion ECigarette Refill , you are good to go. Sounds yummy.

 

[The Rebel]

Swedish snus supplies the WTAs,

My saving grace has been snus. I started vaping back in 2009 and could never quite give up smoking completely. Always felt like I missing something with the vaping, not satisfying enough like a cigarette. After much research, I discover that regular vaping juice didn't have the whole tobacco alkaloids that regular tobacco does. Some people can live without them and it doesn't bother them. But a small percentage of smokers get dependent on them same as nicotine. I found out chew, snus, snuff, and chewable tobacco like Stonewalls all had the WTAs I was missing (This was before wta juice was available). I always hated chew because of the lower jaw bulge and the consistent need to spit, but snus was new to me and without the need to spit I was game to give it a try. But it was hard to find local and thanks to the PACT act, extremely expensive to ship from overseas. I found a small local cigar shop that sold General. I bought a few cans of original and mint and gave up smoking for good the next day. It's been over three years now since I last lit up and I'd never would have done it without snus. Vaping is good for most people, but for us chosen few, we need a little extra.

 

[Hákon]

Just looked again, if you got this, RY4 with WTA infusion ECigarette Refill , you are good to go. Sounds yummy.

thats the one thanks again

 

[mmsjs5]

thats the one thanks again

You are definitely welcome. I hope they work as good for you as they do for me.

I almost forgot to ask, did you find the coupon code?

 

[Hákon]

You are definitely welcome. I hope they work as good for you as they do for me.

I almost forgot to ask, did you find the coupon code?

Nope I forgot..... But the good people at Aromajuice where super helpful. I tried ordering yesterday but could not, they don´t ship to Iceland. Or they didn´t, sent them a mail and told them why i need WTA and got a replay fast and now they ship to Iceland

 

[mmsjs5]

GOOD JOB

For future orders, the code ECF has always been good for 10% off.

 

[mmsjs5]

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