White plastic ring on top of battery necessary?

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I have 2 25r's that I had alot of trouble pulling off this charger without scraping the wrap I've since figured out how to without scraping but too little too late, the white disc things on the top of the battery are falling off and barely held on by some electrical tape I used, so I'm wondering if I even need to worry about keeping the white round disc attached or not?
 

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I have 2 25r's that I had alot of trouble pulling off this charger without scraping the wrap I've since figured out how to without scraping but too little too late, the white disc things on the top of the battery are falling off and barely held on by some electrical tape I used, so I'm wondering if I even need to worry about keeping the white round disc attached or not?

I'm not a Battery Expert.

But I have Usually found (with Most Things) that if something is not necessary, it Isn't included in the Manufacturing an item.

You could buy some Shrink Wrap Tubing and Re-Warp your batteries. It isn't very hard. And can be done with a Hair Dryer or a Lighter.
 

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It could be a non issue or could be catastrophic depending on what your using it in. The purpose of those, and the wrap itself, are to prevent metal from contacting where it shouldn't and causing a hard short.

A new wrap costs next to nothing, a new battery can be had for $5-10, well worth it for the peace of mind and safety. Better safe than sorry, would hate for you to be the subject of the next exploding mod story.
 

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A picture would help...
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I'm not a Battery Expert.

But I have Usually found (with Most Things) that if something is not necessary, it Isn't included in the Manufacturing an item.

You could buy some Shrink Wrap Tubing and Re-Warp your batteries. It isn't very hard. And can be done with a Hair Dryer or a Lighter.

I'm pretty sure that protects from any shorts, between the positive pin and the negative (battery body)

It could be a non issue or could be catastrophic depending on what your using it in. The purpose of those, and the wrap itself, are to prevent metal from contacting where it shouldn't and causing a hard short.

A new wrap costs next to nothing, a new battery can be had for $5-10, well worth it for the peace of mind and safety. Better safe than sorry, would hate for you to be the subject of the next exploding mod story.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'll have to pick some up next time I'm out if I can find some out here(remote area of NM). But I'm using it on and only on my IPV4(black), charging with the Efest LUC S2.
 

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I'm failing to understand how batteries get this bad by taking them off the charger? I've got over two dozen 18650's and charge anywhere from 3-6 batteries a day and none of them have ever had something like this happen. You do have to actually use some care when removing them from the charger, but that just seems like something that should come naturally...
 
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I'm failing to understand how batteries get this bad by taking them off the charger? I've got over two dozen 18650's and charge anywhere from 3-6 batteries a day and none of them have ever had something like this happen. You do have to actually use some care when removing them from the charger, but that just seems like something that should come naturally...

You push the battery back (toward the negative post) before pulling it out of the charger. Most people never contemplate the matter.

And yes, op, please rewrap that battery with the insulator properly positioned. It's a fire hazard as is. Don't use anything metal to remove the old wrap, just find a spot to start tearing it off with fingers.
 

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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'll have to pick some up next time I'm out if I can find some out here(remote area of NM). But I'm using it on and only on my IPV4(black), charging with the Efest LUC S2.

No dude not "next time" you need to put those batteries aside and get some new ones like now. If any of my batteries were anywhere near close to looking like those, they would have gone in for recycling immediately. Youre literally playing with explosive fire by using those. What the heck are you doing when you pull them off the charger or out of your mod? I have a Sigelei mini which is pretty tight fitting in the battery compartment and its never ripped a battery wrap like that, neither has my Xtar charger even if I just yank the battery out without properly pulling it down first. Are you letting cats use those as toys?
 

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Well my charger is really tight spring loaded and pulling them out just normally would cause they negative moving spring loaded part to slide hard and scrape the sides of the wrap slowly just tearing it up over time. So finally I started pulling it out with a tool in order to slowly release the spring part without scraping.

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No dude not "next time" you need to put those batteries aside and get some new ones like now. If any of my batteries were anywhere near close to looking like those, they would have gone in for recycling immediately. Youre literally playing with explosive fire by using those. What the heck are you doing when you pull them off the charger or out of your mod? I have a Sigelei mini which is pretty tight fitting in the battery compartment and its never ripped a battery wrap like that, neither has my Xtar charger even if I just yank the battery out without properly pulling it down first. Are you letting cats use those as toys?
And explain exactly how I'm playing with fire. What exactly will or can happen to cause this "explosion"?

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You push the battery back (toward the negative post) before pulling it out of the charger. Most people never contemplate the matter.

And yes, op, please rewrap that battery with the insulator properly positioned. It's a fire hazard as is. Don't use anything metal to remove the old wrap, just find a spot to start tearing it off with fingers.
Yeah it my first time with that so, ignorantly and carelessly I just pulled they battery off without slowly doing one end first. I honestly have zero cash and zero stores with shrink wrap around (I live in San Patricio NM 45min away from any store except a little gas station) and will not be able to afford anything over 20$ for the next few weeks and so far I've had no problems and I've literally been using and charging them like this for over 3 months. And I understand something could go wrong but it's got to be extremely dramatic to say it's as dangerous as some say. Especially considering that I'm dealing with inr 25r's.

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@jarhead045, there is the very real possibility that if you have metal to metal contact in the wrong place it will cause a hard short. 18650 batteries have quite an high energy storage capacity and if it were to hard short and discharge at once it can cause a nasty accident.

When I said in my earlier post it would depend on what you are using I shop have been more specific. I have a mod called a PeKo which is 3D printed plastic, I wouldn't worry as much using it in something like that as the only metal is the contacts so the chances of it hard shorting are greatly diminished. In a metal mod, the chances of it contacting in the wrong place is significantly higher.

Think of it in terms of running a stop sign, you can get away with it sometimes but that one time you don't, the results are life changing. Just because you have gotten away with it doesn't mean you always will.

Everyone here just wants to see you vape safely.
 

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@jarhead045, there is the very real possibility that if you have metal to metal contact in the wrong place it will cause a hard short. 18650 batteries have quite an high energy storage capacity and if it were to hard short and discharge at once it can cause a nasty accident.

When I said in my earlier post it would depend on what you are using I shop have been more specific. I have a mod called a PeKo which is 3D printed plastic, I wouldn't worry as much using it in something like that as the only metal is the contacts so the chances of it hard shorting are greatly diminished. In a metal mod, the chances of it contacting in the wrong place is significantly higher.

Think of it in terms of running a stop sign, you can get away with it sometimes but that one time you don't, the results are life changing. Just because you have gotten away with it doesn't mean you always will.

Everyone here just wants to see you vape safely.
Yeah I do truly appreciate the looking out and if I could I would immediately get this fixed like yall explained but since my options are either go 2 weeks without smoking anything, which is to easy too get a cig from my aunt or something (everybody here smokes) whenever I get too weak which any long term smoker knows all too well. Or considering the chemistry of the 2 25r INR 18650's and that the biggest risk is a hard short resulting in a non violent venting issue. And having been doing it for 3 plus months I agree is not the smartest but it's definitely not as dangerous as some say but I think those who do say that are thinking about maybe unsafe chemistry ICR 18650's or know nothing about the difference between them. No offense and I truly appreciate the concern and any corrections to my theory. As long as it's done without condescension.

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