What's the secret to cotton candy?

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I hardly can taste the cotton candy at all in the juice I mixed last week. I am wondering if you have made a successful cotton candy juice either plain or with fruit flavors? What did you use and how much? Thanks !


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that is 1 of those odd things.. i think in the beginning the name was slapped on for marketing.. its usually used as a sweetener (em or Ethyl Maltol ). try adding a bit of fruit with it.
 
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EM indeed is used as generic "sweet" and also as cotton candy. I think it's one of those flavors that "flips over" to something different at a certain level. What % did you use?

I, for instance, use some AP (Acetyl Pyrazene) and at low percentages, it adds a little "nutty" to a mix. But go just a little too high, and BAM, it's suddenly "FRITOS CORN CHIPS". Unmistakable...fritos. LOL.

Flavors are totally unique to individual taste buds - you can up the mix, or maybe LOWER the mix, in order to hit what you hoped for. Common DIY error in fact, is going to high with a percentage - people would put 15 or 20% of something in and not taste it. Then they'd try it at 8%, and the flavor would return... Weird.

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EM indeed is used as generic "sweet" and also as cotton candy. I think it's one of those flavors that "flips over" to something different at a certain level. What % did you use?

I, for instance, use some AP (Acetyl Pyrazene) and at low percentages, it adds a little "nutty" to a mix. But go just a little too high, and BAM, it's suddenly "FRITOS CORN CHIPS". Unmistakable...fritos. LOL.

Flavors are totally unique to individual taste buds - you can up the mix, or maybe LOWER the mix, in order to hit what you hoped for. Common DIY error in fact, is going to high with a percentage - people would put 15 or 20% of something in and not taste it. Then they'd try it at 8%, and the flavor would return... Weird.

Good luck!

Aha! I just looked at my recipe and I used it at 15%...I'll dry to decrease it and see if that works!


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Cotton candy is more of an additive than a flavor.
From from the blog by @Hoosier :

EM = Ethyl Maltol. You may as well tie one hand behind your back if you do not have some of this in your stash of stuff. (Two flavoring companies that I know of also sell this in a 10% solution as Cotton Candy Flavoring.) I use EM in a 10% solution and here is what it does:
  1. Tiny Bit (A fraction of 1% in your mix) - Gives a "body" to the vapor and may slightly reduce sharp notes.
  2. A Bit (Close to 1% +/- in your mix) - As above but will take the edge off sharp notes and may very slightly sweeten.
  3. A Bunch (1%-5% of your total mix) - As above plus sweeten
  4. A Load (10%+ of your total mix) - Cotton Candy flavor
Note that some folks are sensitive to the effects of EM and can taste sweetness at 0.05%, but this is fairly rare, and some folks are resistant to the effect and will never get anything sweet out of EM, but it will still add a depth to their juice that is feel more than taste. I don't care if you buy Maltol crystals and make your own solution or if you buy a 10% solution of ethyl maltol premade, like I do, just get it and experiment with it.

As a matter of course, I add 1% cotton candy to all my mixes now and it is indeed a "magic bullet".
 

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that is 1 of those odd things.. i think in the beginning the name was slapped on for marketing.. its usually used as a sweetener (em or Ethyl Maltol ). try adding a bit of fruit with it.
If you put a small dab on your finger,it does indeed taste exactly like cotton candy,although i have not ever tasted a finished juice that tasted like it,it is definitely an odd one haha.
 

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Cotton candy is more of an additive than a flavor.
From from the blog by @Hoosier :

EM = Ethyl Maltol. You may as well tie one hand behind your back if you do not have some of this in your stash of stuff. (Two flavoring companies that I know of also sell this in a 10% solution as Cotton Candy Flavoring.) I use EM in a 10% solution and here is what it does:
  1. Tiny Bit (A fraction of 1% in your mix) - Gives a "body" to the vapor and may slightly reduce sharp notes.
  2. A Bit (Close to 1% +/- in your mix) - As above but will take the edge off sharp notes and may very slightly sweeten.
  3. A Bunch (1%-5% of your total mix) - As above plus sweeten
  4. A Load (10%+ of your total mix) - Cotton Candy flavor
Note that some folks are sensitive to the effects of EM and can taste sweetness at 0.05%, but this is fairly rare, and some folks are resistant to the effect and will never get anything sweet out of EM, but it will still add a depth to their juice that is feel more than taste. I don't care if you buy Maltol crystals and make your own solution or if you buy a 10% solution of ethyl maltol premade, like I do, just get it and experiment with it.

As a matter of course, I add 1% cotton candy to all my mixes now and it is indeed a "magic bullet".

So if I just used 10% of the ethyl Maltol alone, it will taste like cotton candy?


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So if I just used 10% of the ethyl Maltol alone, it will taste like cotton candy?


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if your lucky,,, FA pineapple is butter to me and a few others'.........taste is a funny thing :)

ps.. i dont mind that the FA pineapple is all butter and not pineapple to me.. it works great as butter in my adv recipe.
 

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So if I just used 10% of the ethyl Maltol alone, it will taste like cotton candy?

I dunno... that's a good question! Hoosier seems to think so but I've never tried it.

I bought ethyl maltol as an additive only, not to try by itself. I've never added more than 3% to a mix.

I think BrotherBob and 4lph4num3r1c have the right idea - if you're looking for a candy flavor you could try TFA's Circus Cotton Candy or FW's Blueberry Cotton Candy - they both seem to get consistently good reviews. CAP's has Blue Raspberry Cotton Candy and Real Flavors has one called Blue Raz Cotton Candy as well.
 
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I hardly can taste the cotton candy at all in the juice I mixed last week. I am wondering if you have made a successful cotton candy juice either plain or with fruit flavors? What did you use and how much? Thanks !


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I never had any Luck using Cotton Candy. Either as a Flavor or as a Sweetener.

It just Didn't seem to do much for my Receptors. And if I Added More, it would just get this Dull Chemical Taste.

But Taste is Subjective. And some like it.

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I've posted this recipe before but my wife has been solely vaping cotton candy juice for the last 3 years. The first was a vendor cotton candy then I tried to mix CC juice but ended up with nothing short of a sickly syrup that tasted like crap. I began with using 10%CC then started cutting in half, then half again and still ended up with YUK syrup.
To make a long story short but my final result was mixing 4.5% HS Desert Ship with 3/4% Signature Circus Cotton Candy and this has been her vape for the last almost 2 years. The exhale smells like being at the fair, it has a mild sweet CC taste and doesn't make you feel sickly. Its also easy on the coils with her getting 2+ weeks off a build before it poops out.
I scored with her juice since I took a fifty US dollar a month vendor juice and turned it into less than 5 bucks a month DIY juice along with a happy wife.
 

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Nathan @ VU posted this a couple of years ago. FWIW...

"It's pretty simple..

8% Circus Cotton candy - TFA
2% County Fair Cotton candy - LA

Everyone who tries this cotton candy blend falls in love with it. Circus Cotton candy - TFA is an amazing flavor, it has a "hit" that's hard to describe. The County Fair Cotton candy - LA sweetens it up a bit but a full 10% of Circus Cotton candy - TFA is amazing too.

I can't stop vaping cotton candy!"
 
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