What the HECK?? Vision Spinners and Kanger T3's

[J&V Far]

OK...Bought 2 Spinner and T3 kits (2 Vision Spinners and 2 T3's per kit). Have had them for 3 days now and both of hubbies T3's are leaking. I have not opened mine yet and am now affraid to!! One of hubbies Spinner's has had to be charged twice the other once. He is a LIGHT smoker. What I mean by that is, He will puff on one from 3-5 minutes, place it down and NOT touch the thing for 2-3hours, then puff on the other. He is not chain puffing either. He takes a 2-5 sec draw, holds it in his mouth, inhales it into his lungs, then exhales, wait a bit then draw again. He is NOT treating the thing like a straw in soda!!

Example: He turns Spinner 'A' on and puffs at 12 noon, turns it off and sits it down.
Around 2pm he turns on and puffs Spinner 'B', turns it off and puts it down.
Around 4pm he turns on and puffs Spinner 'A', turns if off and puts it down.
Around 6pm he turns on and puffs Spinner 'B', turns it off and puts it down.
He likes to alternate flavors. So that means that there is at least a 4-5 Hour gap between the times he uses the same one. What is he doing wrong??

 

[J&V Far]

SIDE NOTE: IF it's the gear.....Should I send it all back and try something else?? I researched like mad. THOUGHT I was getting the correct stuff. Now I am so confused. I want to cry. Someone PLEASE HELP.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Any liquid receptacle that has holes in it is bound to leak at some point in time.
You don't say how much or where the leak is coming from.

One or two drops per day through the battery end is normal, remove the T3 and dry the areas with a tissue.
Some T3's will leak when the juice level is low.
Be sure the atomizer base to 'tank' connection is tight.

There are youtube videos on leak fixes for the T3.

The frequency of charging the battery will depend on the mah rating combined with usage and the voltage setting on spinner/twist vv batts.
High V's low mah = drain battery quickly.

Successful low hassle vaping does have a learning curve, I bet very few find their perfect / what works for them best set up the first try.
It took 11 month of experimenting with all sorts of stuff to find mine.

 

[J&V Far]

V Sipnner 1300mah setting of 3.8 with SR Kanger T3's. Connections are tight. Leaking onto battery head, having to clean the battery head after each use. I watched the videos 1st. I don't have the mats to rebuild them...but I do not think that after only 3days of use I should HAVE to go through all of that. Did we get the wrong gear??

 

[needa]

im using the same setup but with the kanger evods. and i had the same issues. take a toothpick and gently fluff out the wick on each side. crank up the voltage a touch. and take light hits. when i tried this. i was successful at fixing one but still had issues with the other. so i replaced the head and all is well.

the spinners. i am getting three and four days easy with mine, using both batts at the same time like your husband. and i am not turning them off. it doesnt make sense to me as to why you arent having the same experience. if you are not... i would return them.

are you charging them fully? the red light on the charger will turn green. sometimes i have to screw in my batt and hit the button for the charger to recognize its there. and it takes several hours for the battery to charge.

gently squeeze on the sides of the spinner. see if the plastic caves in. if it does... you got a knock-off. go buy a couple of batts from myvaporstore or surevapes.

 

[yotasavg]

V Sipnner 1300mah setting of 3.8 with SR Kanger T3's. Connections are tight. Leaking onto battery head, having to clean the battery head after each use. I watched the videos 1st. I don't have the mats to rebuild them...but I do not think that after only 3days of use I should HAVE to go through all of that. Did we get the wrong gear??

I don't know how to say this any better than what I'm about to say: I felt exactly the same way with my first T3 and was SUPER frustrated and about to give up. Crazy bad leaking onto the battery, like puddles, horrible gurgling and plenty of juice in my mouth... Terrible experience. After messing around with how tightly the base screws onto the tank and leaving about a fingernail gap and ensuring the seal is depressed enough on the center tube, it just all started working great. These things don't need to be on the battery tight, they don't need the atomizer base screwed in any farther than enough to make a seal, and they don't need to be drawn on hard at all, which I think can pull a little extra juice through. Another thing to consider is heat. When the T3 get warm from ambient temperature changes it causes a pressure exchange pushing juice through the bottom of the atty. I left a tank in the car for 20 mins in the sun and came back to any empty tank and a full cup holder.

As far as the batteries go, I use a Twist, so it's basically the same. You want your voltage to be as high as possible without tasting burnt IMO. When I don't have it high enough I don't hear the normal 'sizzle' and occasional 'pop' but rather more of a 'flooded' draw...You want these things to be vaping ALL of the juice that gets near the coil, what doesn't vape will end up in your mouth or the battery top.

These are just my experiences. Based on the experiences I have had with basically the same equipment, I can say that it will get better with a little troubleshooting. You don't have the wrong gear, just play with it!

 

[Topwater Elvis]

No you didn't get the 'wrong' gear, QC of China made products is horrendous.
Again you dont say how much is leaking, are we talking about 1 or 2 droplets or leaking so much it lowers the juice level in the 'tank' and makes a mess or runs down the side of the battery?
Is the T3 making a gurgling sound?
It is quite normal for many juice delivery devices to 'leak' droplet(s) into the battery connection usually they sit on top of the positive post and cause no harm or mess.
Drying the area including the bottom of the clearo once or twice a day is routine maintenance.
Taking long light 'drags' instead of rapid or strong 'drags' usually lessens the amount of droplets that end up in the battery top.

There are dozens of juice delivery devices you may have to try a few more or all of them to find what works best for your situation/lifestyle.

 

[qorax]

Fixing a Leaky Kanger T3

 

[patkin]

This is why I don't recommend tanks/clearos to new vapers. Its a bad introduction to vaping. With his vaping syle, a cartomizer will last him most of the day and never leak. Depending on chosen voltage, with Boge 2.0 LR for say 3.7 volts or higher standard resistance for higher voltage. They are cheap so I would at least give them a try. And BTW, I have seen youtube reviews praising this or that tank/clearo with an ending stating that it leaks if not used for a while and asking for solutions from commenters. Most say it has something to do with internal/external pressure equalizations.

 

[evan le'garde]

If you leave it sitting around too long without using it the wick tends to soak up too much liquid. So it will gurgle, you may get a bit in your mouth and sometimes you get some on your battery contact. Take the T3 off the battery and blow, from the bottom, out the excess liquid whilst holding some kitchen roll over the mouth piece. Maybe use a q tip in the mouth piece to clean it out.

I have exactly the same problem as you.

 

[J&V Far]

ok...I got this set up from MyVaporStore, Sides are SOLID, they have not left the house or the constant 74degrees of the livingroom...let me see if I can get what I left out in here this time. YES the batteries are fully charged, I sat and watched the buggers. (I KNOW.....OCD!!! LOL) There are a few drops on the batters head at the end of each puffing, so leak is coming from the bottom of the Atties. The atties are taken off when NOT in use and put back on just before use. The top of the T3 is tightly screwed to the atty. The entire T3 is then screwed snuggly NOT tightly to the battery. Check bottom of atty for dryness, put it on the battery, Puff a bit (NO hard draws), take the T3 off...there is a lil pool of juice on the battery head. Clean off the head and the bottom of the atty ( lil thingy sticking out of the atty that looks like it should touches the lil thingy sticking out of the center of the battery when they are screwed together). YES there is a hissing and popping sound (A little like frying baccon. LOL). NO there is NOT a gurgling sound (Like sucking the last bit of something through a straw). Hubby did say that it felt like a drop of liquid hit him in the mouth this morning.
Does the popping sound mean it is not turned up high enough? Should I be laying the Atty on it's side when it is not on the battery instead of standing it on it's end? or should I fing some way to stant it on the mouth-piece so NOTHING can leak out while they sit?
Still not sure about the battery life though.
OH!!!! How I wish there was a Vape stor near Mechanicville, NY!!!! I could have gone right to the store for help. Grrrrrrrr........
I REALLY want to learn. Thank you all so very much for your patients!!

 

[crxess]

Kangers - Lay them on their side - less gravitational pull less leakage - All through designs will weep a touch. Q-Tips work great for wiping the battery top.
Spinners - Computer chip inside - resets every time cycled, using energy. Fully charge and only turn off when transporting in a pocket/purse/etc. Just leave them on other times - less current draw.

I have had puddles from every type of device I use that has a pass through hole - Cartomizers to Vivi Tanks - everything. The more they are in use, the less they leak. It is use vs. wicking

 

[J&V Far]

LOL Hubby is trying your suggestions now and is starting to look a bit green. He is not used to puffing this much on the thing!!!!

 

[J&V Far]

Alright, one Atty seems to be doing better...the other is outta juice and needs a re-load. I may just fill it with 50-50 PG/VG mix cause hubby called it quits for a bit. I don't want to get sick, his Nic level is about twice what I can stand, Blaaaaaaaaaahhhhhkk!!! Keep 'em comin guys...I think we are almost there!! WHOOT!
As for rebuilds....I am the fix-it person in our home. If I can get these things working properly I will DEF be buying wick and kanthal mats. I just didn't think that stuff would be needed so soon. Ah well, ya live and learn.

Least hubby got a few laughs out of all this, so far. My Hill-billy accent has been workin over-time since we discovered the leaking and started researching it. When I get excited and/or upset I talk so fast and with such twang and slang he has to call my Ma and have her listen in and translate for him. I grew up on a working farm , so as one can imagine...I have been calling these things some pretty colorful names. Most of them he does not understand. LOL!!! My poor Granny must be spinnin in her grave.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Glad you're starting to get a handle on it.
I think some folks start off vaping with too high expectations from low QC cheaply made delivery devices. I can't count the times Ive bought stuff that was DOA or failed within the first hours of use.

The least likely to leak delivery device is a cartomizer which are cheap and about as easy & fool proof as it gets.
They are not without drawbacks, unless filled correctly the first time the wicking material will burn in about 3 seconds the first time you mush the button rendering them useless, unless you enjoy a funky burnt taste.
The reason some folks have suggested carto's is at least you'll have something to vape on while you're fiddling with the stuff that won't.

IMHO SR cartos are a good match for VV devices ~ standard, xl or xxl sizes are available.

 

[jangeisler]

I think that the T3 is great, but not out of the box. I've rewicked and recoiled mine, and now it works great.

Batteries, especially egos and cheaper ones are chinese crap, but high end chinese crap. I think that not two egos are the same if you can live with that, they are great

 

[yotasavg]

If you leave it sitting around too long without using it the wick tends to soak up too much liquid. So it will gurgle, you may get a bit in your mouth and sometimes you get some on your battery contact. Take the T3 off the battery and blow, from the bottom, out the excess liquid whilst holding some kitchen roll over the mouth piece. Maybe use a q tip in the mouth piece to clean it out.

I have exactly the same problem as you.

I do this every day before first use, there's always a little bit the accumulates over night.

 

[J&V Far]

I still have my KR808D-1 with some full Carts and I have some 36mg nic, some 50-50 PG/Vg, and 2 flavors. I have sucessfully refilled my used carts that came with the 808. If all else fail I have that to fall back on while I muck about with these Spinners and T3's. It's all still under warranty so I want to get all the bugs worked out that I can before it expires. I don't like sending stuff back if it is ME who is at fault. Hubby really seems to like the feel of them. He would be happier if they made a Pipe like mouth piece for them. Me...I am good either way.
I am running low of Q-Tips though!!! LOL

 

[crxess]

LOL - have to say most that rebuild wicks right off or replace often don't bother to tweak or maintain.

My T3,T3mini & MT3's all work just fine with the factory wicks - With some adjustment.
With regular cleaning/dry burn and coil adjustment, I still have original wick/coils from my T2 working perfect at 8 months. T3 stuff going on 4months(original) I purchased plenty of Spares but haven't needed to use any yet.

ETA - Love a country accent in a woman - Got my wife from Alabama!

 

[RT88]

could it be it's not charging? i notice the white light stays on when charging with an eGo charge. Annoying. my 1300 from MVS also lasts 2 or 3 days in rotation with a 900 Twist without dying. I'm using no more than 3.8v tho on either. if crackling and popping persist after the first few draws then it might be too hot.

My first MT3 leaked from the start, my first T3 leaked after 3 refills. watched the video and tried widening the hole but if you cover the open end with your finger and blow, it seems airtight but who knows.

I think washing the head of the T3 under running water could damage the wicks. They're fragile. I'm thinking the leaking is coming from the wicks after a few uses. The silicone seals can get squished too much with over-tightening the tank to the bottom. Good quality control would have a thread stop so over tightening like this is not possible.

I ordered a mini-T3 and am using it now. everything fine on first tank, no batt leak either. i'm liking it.

The most hassle-free leak-free clearos i have are the Vision V3 (2.0) and the cheap eGo CE4 that looks like a pain to rebuild