What do I need for a dripper mod?

[WhiteWolf747]

I'm new to the vaping scene, but I found a cool mod I'd like to start out with. It's labeled as a "hybrid dripper mod," so being relatively new to all this, I'm not quite sure what that means. I know what dripping is, I'm just not familiar with the term "dripper mod." What else do I need to buy for a dripper mod?

I know I need an 18650 battery (since it's clearly listed that that's the mod's accepted battery size) and juice obviously. What kind of atomizer is needed for a dripper mod? This is the mod just for reference.

http://www.vaporbank.com/shop/index.php?p=product&id=3512

 

[MrDripper]

In addition to an 18650 battery, in which you had better buy 2, you'll also need a charger. I recommend and use Nitecore chargers.
If you have no experience in building coils, you had better start with a tank. Perhaps the Sense Herakles or the Horizon Arctic.
As for the term 'hybrid dripping mod', there is no such thing. Regardless of what the website says. there is no mod on the planet that is designed specifically for dripping, so don't be fooled.
Please keep in mind that building coils and using unregulated mods is best left for experienced vapers. I suggest going to your local vape shop and asking for a demonstration on coil building and battery safety.
Best of luck to you and vape on!

 

[nyiddle]

You're looking at a clone of this mod.

The Valkyrie, unlike other mods labelled as "hybrid" (ie: the SMPL or 4nine), is a "true hybrid". The atomizer that comes with it is built to fit directly onto the top, bypassing the need for a 510 pin and making a direct connection with the top of the battery. This also means that you'd need an adapter to attach your own RDA/atomizer to the top. (Ideally) this direct-battery-connection decreases voltage drop, which would result in more voltage being delivered to the atomizer and less being lost to the actual 510 pin, the body of the mod, etc..

Thing is, no mechanical mod is a beginner device, as it requires a good amount of knowledge on battery safety/coil building. This is not a good starter mod, but I'm not here to tell you what you can or can't buy.

What are you vaping on now?

ETA: The reason it's called a "hybrid dripper" is because the atomizer that comes with the Valkyre is an RDA (rebuildable dripping atomizer). You cannot attach a tank (or any other RDA) to this mod without some kind of adapter (erm, which it might come with..).

 

[WhiteWolf747]

You're looking at a clone of this mod.

The Valkyrie, unlike other mods labelled as "hybrid" (ie: the SMPL or 4nine), is a "true hybrid". The atomizer that comes with it is built to fit directly onto the top, bypassing the need for a 510 pin and making a direct connection with the top of the battery. This also means that you'd need an adapter to attach your own RDA/atomizer to the top. (Ideally) this direct-battery-connection decreases voltage drop, which would result in more voltage being delivered to the atomizer and less being lost to the actual 510 pin, the body of the mod, etc..

Thing is, no mechanical mod is a beginner device, as it requires a good amount of knowledge on battery safety/coil building. This is not a good starter mod, but I'm not here to tell you what you can or can't buy.

What are you vaping on now?

ETA: The reason it's called a "hybrid dripper" is because the atomizer that comes with the Valkyre is an RDA (rebuildable dripping atomizer). You cannot attach a tank (or any other RDA) to this mod without some kind of adapter (erm, which it might come with..).

After reading your post, I think I'll check out some other options. I'm fairly knowledgeable in battery safety, but I have no idea how to deal with installing my own wicks and coils, and quite frankly it wouldn't be something I'd want to learn yet either.

Currently, I don't have my own vaping device. I've used my friend's mod before and we've socially vaped with some mutual friends of ours on several occasions, but beyond that, I'm completely new. I was considering either this or the Eleaf iStick 100W (which also seems to have solid vapor production) as a first vaping device. Is there anything in particular that you'd recommend?

 

[BreeZyCloudZ]

After reading your post, I think I'll check out some other options. I'm fairly knowledgeable in battery safety, but I have no idea how to deal with installing my own wicks and coils, and quite frankly it wouldn't be something I'd want to learn yet either.

Currently, I don't have my own vaping device. I've used my friend's mod before and we've socially vaped with some mutual friends of ours on several occasions, but beyond that, I'm completely new. I was considering either this or the Eleaf iStick 100W (which also seems to have solid vapor production) as a first vaping device. Is there anything in particular that you'd recommend?

Well, and it is my opinion, if you want to drip, you want a mechanical mod which is basically a tube with copper contact points which you insert a battery and the firing button activates it to contact and RDA. Nowww, that is what makes a "dripper" mod, an RDA, there is also RBA, RDA means rebuildable dripping atomizer, RBA is just rebuidable atomizer. Like others said an RDA requires you to rebuild coils and wick it an all that. Dont let people discourage you, it is not that difficult. You can look online on how to do it. Of coure itll take a couple times but not that difficult. So you need a mech mod and an RDA, mostly personal preference, but and RDA should have big posts and airholes, if you like clouds. Sound too difficult? Find a Variable Wattage or Voltage mod, get a tank and vape on!

 

[edyle]

After reading your post, I think I'll check out some other options. I'm fairly knowledgeable in battery safety, but I have no idea how to deal with installing my own wicks and coils, and quite frankly it wouldn't be something I'd want to learn yet either.

Currently, I don't have my own vaping device. I've used my friend's mod before and we've socially vaped with some mutual friends of ours on several occasions, but beyond that, I'm completely new. I was considering either this or the Eleaf iStick 100W (which also seems to have solid vapor production) as a first vaping device. Is there anything in particular that you'd recommend?

I'd recommend the istick30 for a starter mod; with a simple tank like the naulilus mini, or chances are you will find an istick starter kit containing every you should need.

With the istick100watt, you will have the ability to change out your batteries;
you'd have to buy the batteries for it.
you can plug in to charge, but it is better for your batteries if you have an external charger available;
the batteries are in series, so there are some issues there you need to be conscious of.

The istick30 has a fixed battery inside; no external charger required; just plug in to charge; lower cost of course.

 

[nyiddle]

After reading your post, I think I'll check out some other options. I'm fairly knowledgeable in battery safety, but I have no idea how to deal with installing my own wicks and coils, and quite frankly it wouldn't be something I'd want to learn yet either.

Currently, I don't have my own vaping device. I've used my friend's mod before and we've socially vaped with some mutual friends of ours on several occasions, but beyond that, I'm completely new. I was considering either this or the Eleaf iStick 100W (which also seems to have solid vapor production) as a first vaping device. Is there anything in particular that you'd recommend?

The iStick 100W has been getting pretty good reviews. I've used a few myself and they feel pretty solid, but they're still undergoing that "will it last 6 months" trial period, because it's a relatively new device. In general though, I absolutely recommend getting a regulated device instead of a mechanical one since you've never owned any vape gear before.

The vapor production and ultimately the experience comes down to the atomizer that you put on top. A regulated mod leaves a lot of room for options because you can input your own preferred wattage or voltage. With a mechanical mod (ie: the Valkyrie you were looking at), you're entirely at the whim of the voltage in your battery. As the battery decreases in voltage, there's less voltage applied to the atomizer, meaning less vapor, flavor, etc.. A regulated mod will step up or down to whatever voltage or wattage you set as long as there's enough juice in your batteries to apply that voltage.

So on that note, I'd recommend getting something like an iStick 100W + a sub-ohm tank. There's a bunch on the market, but I've been hearing pretty darn good things about the Herakles and the Starre. If you don't care as much about vapor production, I still swear by my Nautilus Mini. They all have pre-built heads that you can swap out in a hot minute, so that takes the "learning building" portion out of it. Very easy to "fill and go" without much hassle. Some tanks even include "rebuildable decks" should you choose to decide to build your own coils rather than use the included pre-built ones.

Check out sites like Eciggity and KidneyPuncher for some regulated mods/tanks. If you wanna get into dripping (RDA's) it's pretty much necessary that you learn how to build. Even if you have someone else build your coils for you, you still should have an understanding of what works and what doesn't, and what potential issues may arise. Like I said, a tank with pre-built heads takes a lot of the thinking out of the equation.

ETA:

@edyle brings up a pretty good point. Any device with replaceable batteries means that you'll need to also get a charger, and pay attention to certain (rather obvious) warning signs that go into battery care. If you don't wanna bother fussing with batteries and a charger and stuff, definitely get something with a fixed battery. Personally, I prefer things with removeable batteries for two reasons:
1) If the battery ever dies it'll be annoying to replace (compared to just buying some new 18650's) and
2) With the batteries in my trusty charger I can be way more confident that they aren't being given too many amps at once and thus (in my head) lower the likelihood of a bad situation.

 

[Pushbutton]

The term hybrid is mostly used for two things in the vaping world (at least those two come to mind right now).

.) a hybrid topcap. Used on mechanical mods, this type of atomizer connection foregoes the use of a floating or adjustable pin in the 510 for a slight decrease in device length and device resistance and connects the atomizer positive directly to the positive of the battery. The drawback with this is, that if the atomizer positive pin is not protruding enough, or if the positive of the battery gets dented from pressing the firing button too hard, you are risking a hard short.

.) hybrid dripper. Most of these are devices where the battery tube and the atomizer base are machined from a single piece and do not come apart. Measuring the resistance can only be done with a multimeter since there is no way to detach the atomizer portion.

I'd not recommend either of these devices to a beginner. Regulated devices have come a long way and you can pick up a decent one for little more than a mech clone costs these days. As an added benefit in addition to built in safety and security and more battery life per battery, you can adjust your power output to suit your build, instead of having to adjust your build to get the desired vape.

 

[WhiteWolf747]

Well, and it is my opinion, if you want to drip, you want a mechanical mod which is basically a tube with copper contact points which you insert a battery and the firing button activates it to contact and RDA. Nowww, that is what makes a "dripper" mod, an RDA, there is also RBA, RDA means rebuildable dripping atomizer, RBA is just rebuidable atomizer. Like others said an RDA requires you to rebuild coils and wick it an all that. Dont let people discourage you, it is not that difficult. You can look online on how to do it. Of coure itll take a couple times but not that difficult. So you need a mech mod and an RDA, mostly personal preference, but and RDA should have big posts and airholes, if you like clouds. Sound too difficult? Find a Variable Wattage or Voltage mod, get a tank and vape on!

I did check out some coil building videos and it seems very simple. It's a little costly to do so, but it doesn't seem as difficult as I thought it'd be. I'm making a trip to a vape shop next Sunday so I still have a little bit of a timeframe to make a final decision. I'm still considering the Valkyrie though. It looks really nice.

 

[bwh79]

It's a little costly to do so, but it doesn't seem as difficult as I thought it'd be.

The initial investment might be a little more than a pack of disposable coils, true, but in the long run it's actually much cheaper. You need an ohm reader and a couple tools that you might already have lying around the house. Besides that, a spool of wire and a box of cotton pads and you're set for life -- or at least for a good long while -- versus plugging in a new coil couple times a week/month at $3-5 a pop.

 

[LittleBird]

I did check out some coil building videos and it seems very simple. It's a little costly to do so, but it doesn't seem as difficult as I thought it'd be. I'm making a trip to a vape shop next Sunday so I still have a little bit of a timeframe to make a final decision. I'm still considering the Valkyrie though. It looks really nice.

It is not very simple. Wrapping a coil is easy; building safely, especially when you are both inexperienced and interested in chasing very big clouds, is not so easy. I'm all for building, but please start with something that's a whole lot less risky.

 

[SeaBandit]

When I started out, my first set up was a hybrid mod and an RDA, as long as you research as much as you can and know how it all works you should be fine.

quick checklist:
-get a recommended battery (VTC 4, 25r, HE4)
-put the battery in the mod flat side down
-make sure your atomizers pin sticks out further than the threads on the connections (google search protruding 510)
-check your resistance (ohms) before you wick your coils, I would reccomend staying above 0.3
-make sure your coils don't touch the sides of your atomizer or the cap when you put it on
watch as much videos as you can on the subject.

don't worry about people who tell you to get something for begginers, if you're interested and excited about a set up you will have more of an incentive to learn everything about it. (as opposed to getting fed up and bored with something you didn't chose)

have fun and always ask if you're not sure about anything

 

[BreeZyCloudZ]

I did check out some coil building videos and it seems very simple. It's a little costly to do so, but it doesn't seem as difficult as I thought it'd be. I'm making a trip to a vape shop next Sunday so I still have a little bit of a timeframe to make a final decision. I'm still considering the Valkyrie though. It looks really nice.

Yea, I mean everyone who is building their coils like experts started where you're at right now. It took me a couple coils, but now I build whatever kind I want. Like others said, the first buy is costly but after that, its just coils, cotton, and the occasional battery, but its all personal preference. The only way to find out is to experiment.

 

[Jim_ MDP]

With the istick100watt, you will have the ability to change out your batteries;
you'd have to buy the batteries for it.
you can plug in to charge, but it is better for your batteries if you have an external charger available;
the batteries are in series, so there are some issues there you need to be conscious of.

If there's a sneaky way to wire the sled so the batteries face the same way, AND a single cell will power the mod... then yeah it might be a series mod.
Otherwise the i100 is a parallel box with boost circuit.

 

[Tony16]

The iStick 100W has been getting pretty good reviews. I've used a few myself and they feel pretty solid, but they're still undergoing that "will it last 6 months" trial period, because it's a relatively new device. In general though, I absolutely recommend getting a regulated device instead of a mechanical one since you've never owned any vape gear before.

I've had the istick 100w about a month now, good mod for the price, but still new on the market, I do have a couple mods to fall back on. Just saying you may want something that's proven reliable if it's going to be your only mod.BTW getting first rda might be better learning on regulated mod with short protection.

 

[Thrasher]

Save you some pain. Skip the valk the button is a nightmare to fix if it goes.


https://m.fasttech.com/products/3026/10013826/2344400-neptune-styled-18650-dripper-hybrid

@SeaBandit..... that is a direct connect mod, very far from a "true" hybrid, and I wish they didnt call them hybrids.

 

[edyle]

If there's a sneaky way to wire the sled so the batteries face the same way, AND a single cell will power the mod... then yeah it might be a series mod.
Otherwise the i100 is a parallel box with boost circuit.

oops!
Forgot; that one's a parallel regulated mod; thanks.

 

[bwh79]

https://m.fasttech.com/products/3026/10013826/2344400-neptune-styled-18650-dripper-hybrid
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@SeaBandit..... that is a direct connect mod, very far from a "true" hybrid, and I wish they didnt call them hybrids.

What would you call it, then? And what does "hybrid" mean to you, if not one of those? To me, that's exactly what a "true hybrid" mod (as opposed to "hybrid top cap") means.