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Those are the same batteries I use in mine. You can read about battery safety here:
18650 Safety Grades -- Picking a Safe Battery to Vape With | E-Cigarette Forum
All 30A-Capable Batteries Shootout -- Bench Test Results -- Which battery is best?
Baditude's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
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Illumn.com - Flashlights, Batteries, Carry Gear, Intelligent LED Lighting, and More!
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Liion Wholesale Batteries | Li-ion battery distributor
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Earth's #1 source for IMR 18650 Batteries, Chargers, Cases & Wraps | IMRbatteries.com
18650 Safety Grades -- Picking a Safe Battery to Vape With | E-Cigarette Forum
All 30A-Capable Batteries Shootout -- Bench Test Results -- Which battery is best?
Baditude's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Where to buy in USA
Illumn.com - Flashlights, Batteries, Carry Gear, Intelligent LED Lighting, and More!
Authentic AW Batteries - RTD Vapor
Liion Wholesale Batteries | Li-ion battery distributor
18650 Batteries | Rechargeable Li-ion | Battery Chargers
Earth's #1 source for IMR 18650 Batteries, Chargers, Cases & Wraps | IMRbatteries.com
HG2s are the right call. I use them in both of mine. Any 20 amp battery will do, but the 3000mAh ones-- HG2s, Panasonic 30Qs, AW 3000mAh-- give unbelievable battery life.
Usually it's either a Subtank Mini @ 25 watts on the rba at .5 ohm. OR Smok TFV4 with triple coil or Clapton at 60 and 45 watts respectively. I am nowhere near running in the danger zone. (which involves math and I tend to stick to the middle of the road in my vape)
I have HG2s in my RX200, running it at 80w (it is one of many devices I rotate throughout the day) and eat up about 5mls a day with it. I get several days before I get to below 3.6v and start feeling the need to pull and charge them.
Thanks guys. I know I need to school myself on batteries some more. I made an impulse buy when my evic Vt's battery wasn't keeping up with my vaping needs. So ...Ill be using a crown tank the with the .25 ohm coil which says it works best at 80 to 120watts (Ive never vaped over 60watts so far) do you think these batteries will work fine in this range?
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Definitely. My RXs kick the batteries out as "discharged" at about 3.4 volts. There's three of them, so the discharge voltage is 10.2V. I=P/V, thus 200(watts)/10.2(Volts)=19.6 (Amps). That mod is safe to run at any resistance it will fire up to 200 watts on the HG2s.
Oh, ok. Thanks! I really appreciate the info, you put my mind at ease. Glad I don't have to buy more batteries and wait for them to arrive.
The three batteries running at their max of 20A can push out a total of 192 watts when they are all the way at the cutoff voltage(3.2v each). Personally, I never like to push any battery past 75% of its rating(I actually prefer just going to 2/3 of the rating) since the capacity and amp limit decreases with age. 2/3 of 192 watts is still 128 watts, and that is all the way at the cutoff voltage. If you go with 75% of the 192, that will give you 144 watts at the cutoff voltage. If you are swapping the batteries out before they are fully drained, that safe limit goes up a little more.
Long story short, the HG2 batteries are great for the rx200. I run them in mine, too.
Long story short, the HG2 batteries are great for the rx200. I run them in mine, too.
I'm really sorry for posting on a 2 month old thread now, but I've been racking my brain over this statement above for 12 hours now. From everything I thought I knew, it sounds like suprtrkr is talking as if the RX200 is an unregulated, parallel box mod which I know it isn't. Am I missing something? This will probably fall on deaf ears, but maybe somebody passing through can read what suprtrkr says, and my question, and set me straight if necessary. The only thing I can make sense of it with, is that he is saying that when the batteries are pretty much dead in the RX200 (3.4 volts), you can still fire it safely at 200watts. But even then, sounds like we're talking about an unregulated parallel mod. Thanks in advance.
What he is saying is that the mod doesnt know if they are 5 amp batteries, 10 amp batteries, 20 amp batteries, or 30 amp batteries. If they are currently in the voltage range, the mod will fire. In a dual battery mod, at 3.4v per cell, you have 6.8v input. To fire at 200w, you will have to draw 29.5 at amps from each. If you are running 20 amp batteries, you are WAY beyond the safe threshold. With 3 batteries, you have 10.2v, so you are only drawing 19.6 amps per cell. With this, you are at the limits of a 20a battery, but still technically in the limits.
A regulated mod is safer because it will only fire if it is within set parameters. If you have a coil on there that is oitside of those parameters, it wont fire where a mech mod will. Many mods will limit the input amps. If your batteries cant safely deliver that amount, there is still a risk of venting from running them too hard. A mech mod has no set limit on the amps it will pull from a battery.
@speedy_r6 has answered you. The mod is regulated, not a mech, and it will safely fire at 200 watts on three 20A batteries, even at the bottom of their discharge scale.
Bare with me. I wrote this all below, and then almost just deleted it because I'm really confused now, and most likely I'm going to be slammed for not understanding basic concepts, but I'm posting anyways:
This just sounds so much like you're talking about a parallel setup, where the number of batteries influences how many amps are being drawn from each battery. Maybe the total output voltage is what's confusing me. I thought that a regulated mod, regulates, and it doesn't matter if the battery(s) are nearly dead at 3.4v or fully charged at 4.2v, it will regulate and pull the same amperage on the batteries all depending on what you have the wattage set to. Is that totally wrong to think that? For example, in your example of the 2 batteries at 3.4v each, lets take 3 batteries in an RX200 fully charged that's 12.6v, and with the equation at 200w, it comes out to 15.87amps per cell being drawn. Now as the batteries die, you guys are saying that amp draw on the batteries will increase if you still have the regulated box set at 200w. I thought that goes against what the regulate box mod. I didn't think they worked that way. I thought that the important voltage here was what the voltage/wattage was set to, and not the voltage that determines how much life is left in the battery. Is this because the RX200 although regulated, it is in series? I thought that they consistently pull the same amps on the batteries, depending on what you have the wattage set to, and they pull that all through the life of each battery's charge. So from 4.2v down to whatever it technically "dies" at, around 3.4v. I thought that's what the purpose of the board, or chip was.
When I'm calculating if a particular build will be safe to use in either a dual or triple 18650 regulated box mod, do I need to be using the sum of all the batteries voltage? In other words, to calculate my amp draw on each of the 3 batteries from a fresh charge, fill in 12.6 volts and the resistance of my build, to let the current and power values calculate accordingly? A lot of questions I know. Look at my logic, and please let me know if I need to research a specific topic to safely know what I am doing. I appreciate any more time you can take. Thank you.
Im at work, so im probably gonna miss some answers.
Simply put, a battery can only give as many volts as it is at. If it is at 3.9v, it can only put out 3.9v. At a full charge, each battery is putting out 4.2v. For easy math, lets just assume we are only using one battery. Watts = Volts * Amps. If you are drawing 42 watts from a full battery, you are drawing 4.2v at 10 amps. Now, if we assume you have esed the battery all day and it is only putting out 3.5v, that 42w would require 3.5v at 12 amps.
The mod will OUTPUT the same volts and amps the entire time if you ask it to. It does this by drawing more amps as the voltage of the batteries decreases.
With a regulated mod, use the cutoff to determine amp draw. This is when they will be strained the most. Ignore the resistance of the build on a regulated mod. Divide your watts by 3.2(or whatever cutoff). Now, take the number you get and divide that by how many batteries your mod uses.
Example: Lets say you vape at 96 watts on a 3 battery regulated mod. 96 / 3.2 = 30 TOTAL amps being drawn. Since you have 3 batteries, divide that 30 by 3. That gives you 10 amps per battery.
I will post more when im home in a couple hours.
Ok I followed everything you just said. Maybe the problem for me is that I have previously failed to understand exactly how a regulated mod actually works. So with your 96 watt example above, a regulated mod splits the total amp draw between how ever many number of batteries there are. And with the RX200, using 3.4v as a cutoff, I really need to be looking at the amp draw per battery from 10.2 and 12.6 volts. I didn't think it mattered if your regulated box mod was single, dual, or triple 18650. It would pull the same amps on the battery(s) no matter what, and the only factor that mattered was what you had the wattage set to, and not the total number of batteries in the mod. I've had it in my head that the total number of batteries in the mod only mattered on mechanical mods (box or tubes), and whether or not they were in parallel or series.
So, there really is a benefit to having a triple 18650 mod like the RX200. Sure please do post more later on when you're home. I think it's starting to come together for me now though. I really appreciate your help.
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