What am I doing wrong? (Sigelei 100W plus question)

[BrockD]

Hey guys, I recently bought a sigelei 100W Plus, I used to vape from a provari 2.

My vape tastes way better from the provari, like not even comparable. I was smoking 26mg juice, I changed to 6MG 80vg/20pg like someone on here recommended, same flavor, put in a new coil, vaping from 60-75 watts, tried the entire range, and A) It's not producing huge amounts of vapor as I thought it would be, B) it tastes not even close to as flavorful as my provari, and C) sometimes i'm getting hits that taste semi-burnt (i've changed the coil, tried it again, etc etc.

Where do I go from here

 

[BrockD]

Also, I feel like the battery % indicator is kinda funny, it will read 40%, the mod will not fire, and then it'll just go from 40%->19%->1%, it never goes down smoothly. I have Aspire 18650 super high drain batteries and I charged them properly when I got them etc, I didn't leave them on the charger too long or use them before they were fully charged or anything.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Are you thoroughly priming new heads?

Are you starting off a new head at a lower power then working your way up to let the head 'break in' & prevent scorching the wicking material?
After it is scorched it will never taste right & wicking ability will be severely reduced leading to low vapor production & dry burnt hits.

Do you see bubbles rising up from the wicking holes in the side of the head occasionally?

I'd bet the batteries are causing your issues with your Sigelei 100W Plus, try a decent set of batteries, Samsung 25r, vtc4, lg he2 etc...
Batteries that capacity crash like that is sign #1 they are no good/bad/incapable of supporting the load they're being used for/fubar.

 

[Completely Average]

The Sigelei and the Provari are just battery packs. They don't do anything except provide power.

The important question here is what tank were you using on the Provari and what tank are you using on the Sigelei?


As far as the batteries go, they are fine, but you'll want to turn the Sigelei off and back on and then they should read correctly. I've seen several people with the same issue with that mod and the solution is either to turn it off and then back on or to remove and reinstall the batteries. The Aspire batteries are good batteries, based on testing by our resident battery expert Mooch they are every bit as good as VTC4 and 25R batteries.

 

[BrockD]

The Sigelei and the Provari are just battery packs. They don't do anything except provide power.

The important question here is what tank were you using on the Provari and what tank are you using on the Sigelei?


As far as the batteries go, they are fine, but you'll want to turn the Sigelei off and back on and then they should read correctly. I've seen several people with the same issue with that mod and the solution is either to turn it off and then back on or to remove and reinstall the batteries. The Aspire batteries are good batteries, based on testing by our resident battery expert Mooch they are every bit as good as VTC4 and 25R batteries.

Hey man, I'm pretty sure you also replied to me in another one of my threads, on the Provari i'm using a Naut Mini and on the Sigelei i'm using an Atlantis 2 Mega .3 ohm coils.

No, I'm not priming the coils.

 

[Completely Average]

You DEFINITELY need to prime the coils. You're basically just burning dry cotton if you haven't primed the coils first. Prime them, install them, then let the tank sit for 5-10 minutes before using it. When you're ready to use it take 3-4 puffs off the tank without hitting the fire button to make sure the wicks are completely saturated before you press the fire button.

After that I can't help you much in regards to the Atlantis since I don't have one myself. Personally I prefer the flavor of my Nautilus to the flavor I get from my Subtank Mini, but that doesn't necessarily translate to other tanks. I think my Starre produces just as good of flavor as my Nautilus. Not having one, I have no idea how the Atlantis compares.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

You have to prime new / unused heads to prevent scorching the wicking material.
Drip drops on top of the wicking material until they are fully saturated, may take 5 ~12 drop depending on size of drops. Fill tank thread base & tank together let sit a few minutes, take several un powered primer puffs, then start off at a low power setting & slowly work your way up.

 

[BrockD]

You have to prime new / unused heads to prevent scorching the wicking material.
Drip drops on top of the wicking material until they are fully saturated, may take 5 ~12 drop depending on size of drops. Fill tank thread base & tank together let sit a few minutes, take several un powered primer puffs, then start off at a low power setting & slowly work your way up.

Thanks for the insight, normally I just let put the ejuice in, and let the tank sit for about 10 minutes, i do take non fired puffs though, i just dont work my way up

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Again, you have to prime a new head or they will scorch / burn the wicking material.
( head = coil & wicking material assembly you screw into the base)
Starting off at a low power and working your way up allows the head to 'break in' and prevents scorching / burning the wicking material.

There isn't a way to find your preferred power level if you just crank to 50w or 60w and start vaping.
When you start low & work up you may find you like 32w or 40w or whatever # works best for your individual preferences.

 

[OfTheBrave]

As others have said, a battery is just a power source. Ill bet if you throw that nautilus on your sig it will preform in a similar fashion to your provari. That being said, I have noticed subtle differences between mods running the same tank at the "same" wattage.

This has to do with a few things, namely that different mods use different chips, some are more efficient and some just take a different approach to reach the desired power. (buck/boost or buck converter etc etc)

But yeah, if you're using a new tank with a different style coil there are going to be differences. Thicker/thinner wire, more wraps, different coil diameter so on and so forth.

So just play with it! Have fun mate.

 

[Baditude]

As others have said, a battery is just a power source. Ill bet if you throw that nautilus on your sig it will preform in a similar fashion to your provari. That being said, I have noticed subtle differences between mods running the same tank at the "same" wattage.

This has to do with a few things, namely that different mods use different chips, some are more efficient and some just take a different approach to reach the desired power. (buck/boost or buck converter etc etc)

This. The reason I'm still using a Provari for over 3 years is I haven't found another regulated mod which provides me with the same satisfying, smooth vape. And I've tried more than a few.

Why Mods that Use the Cheap 33.3 Hz Chip don't Vape the Same as a Provari, DNA-20, etc

Provari on an Oscelloscope vs a Vamo

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I haven't looked at PBusardo's review of the Sigelei 100W Plus (or if he's even reviewed it yet) to see which chipset its using. He's the only reviewer that I know who puts the mods on an osceloscope to determine which chipset its running on. The cheaper chips have been referred to as the "rattlesnake effect" and operate between 33.3 - 60 Hz. The Provari chip operates above 800 Hz. Some manufacturers use the cheaper chips to reduce manufacturing costs to reduce sale prices of their product. (Not saying that's what Segelei does, I have no idea.)

 

[dcfluegel]

using the atlantis mega on my sig100w+ right now with .3ohm coil at 60w... with Charlie Noble's Commodore Pearry - just chucked a giant pear flavored cloud that has my cats thinking it may be the vapocalypse - gotta prime the coils

 

[Completely Average]

As others have said, a battery is just a power source. Ill bet if you throw that nautilus on your sig it will preform in a similar fashion to your provari. That being said, I have noticed subtle differences between mods running the same tank at the "same" wattage.

Oh, I have noticed more than "subtle" differences.

Those who know me know that I've used an old Cloupor 30W "Hana Clone" box mod for over a year. I recently got the SnowWolf 200W mod.

Since then I've found that I have to lower my SnowWolf by 3-4W compared to the same tank on the old Cloupor 30W. This has been consistent across multiple tanks. Pick any tank and any setting on the Cloupor and I'll have to run it between 3-4W lower on my SnowWolf to get the same results. I've since come to the conclusion that my Cloupor is simply not delivering as much power to the atty as it claims.

Which certainly explains why I've been able to run my Nautilus at 19W without a problem while everyone else said it burned their juice to set it that high. My 19W on that Cloupor is really more like 15W on other mods. Sure enough, the same tank, coil, and juice on my SnowWolf gives a burnt taste at anything over 15W.

 

[suprtrkr]

Definitely prime the coils.
The Atlantis 2 and the Mini Nauti are designed to give different vaping experiences. It's not unreasonable you like one of them better than the other. If you put the Nauti on the Sig and adjust the watts in the same area (could be a few watts difference) you'll get pretty much the same gape. All that really means is you don't like the high-powered vape from the Atlantis much. Too hot, maybe, or too cloudy. If the Nauti/Sig experiment works, buy a bigger Nauti