Has anyone tried this vegetable glycerin? also, are there any organic juices, or/healthier options opposed to this additive chemical one?
Vegetable glycerin opposed to the regular juice
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Think you might be a bit confused. Pretty much everyone here has used Vegetable Glycerin. e-liquids are made with it, referred to as VG, and used alone or in combination with Propylene Glycol (PG). Neither is addictive as far as anyone knows.
right its the Propylene Glycol that i am not hoping to put in my lungs, i mean, vaping seems a great alternative to smoking, but why more chemicals than less. so are the strictly VG juices healthier and can they be bought anywhere, and do they have as good flavor, satisfaction factor as the PG?
how about organic juices, are these real and do they exist.
how about organic juices, are these real and do they exist.
The two bases for liquids are PG (propylene glycol) and VG (vegetable glycerine). PG is a product of the petroleum industry. Petroleum is decayed and liquified plant and animal matter. They just refine and separate the different chemical components and further refine them into products we can use. VG is made from pressed plant sources and refined into a clear and pure product.
PG is used in thousands of the products we eat, drink, and rub on our skin. It's in our toothpaste, our foods, and it's used as a de-foaming agents in canned soft drinks. It's in snow cone liquid to make the juice stick to the ice. It's in salad dressings and other condiments as a thickener.
PG and/or VG is what makes the vapor when heated. The rest is mostly flavoring and water. There are no studies that show either to be carcinogenic. They are both technically organic compounds. They are not addictive.
Nicotine is addictive, but not nearly so in ecig juices as it is in manufactured tobacco products such as cigarettes. Cigarette makers add numerous products to make the effects of nicotine more pleasurable and addictive.
Glycerine is a part of our life whether we vape it, eat it, drink it, or soak in it. The bath soap we use contains glycerin.
Sources of Glycerine | LIVESTRONG.COM
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You can buy eliquid that is strictly VG. You would need to investigate suppliers individually to see if they have that option with their product....or you could try making your own liquid if you feel up to it. Most people will tell you that PG carries flavor better than VG...personally I dont find the differnce to be significant.
I dont know anything about "organic" alternatives.
I dont know anything about "organic" alternatives.
In the USA the two main base carrier liquids for e-liquid are popularly called VG (vegetable glycerin) and PG (propylene glycol). You should use the highest quality available for vaping purposes which is pharmaceutical grade.
In the USA the proper names for these products appear as this on the bottle.
-Glycerin USP
-Propylene Glycol USP
USP is United States Pharmacopeia, an independent organization that establishes standards for pharmaceuticals (drugs) sold in the the US and other countries. There is no higher standard of purity for these chemicals. Organic, GMO-free, Kosher and Halal may mean different things to different people but such descriptions or approvals are meaningless when it comes to establishing the purity of Glycerin or Propylene Glycol.
USP products use USP established containers and seals. Each container bears a lot number and expiration date.
I believe that pharmaceutical products in Canada can be labeled USP or BP (British Pharmacopoeia). The Glycerin and Propylene Glycol may be purchased off the shelf in drug stores just like in the USA.
Incidentally, most Glycerin USP sold in US drugstores is produced by Humco and often labeled with individual store brand names. It is usually sold in 177ml bottles. Humco glycerin is produced from vegetables and is USP and Kosher approved.
In the USA the proper names for these products appear as this on the bottle.
-Glycerin USP
-Propylene Glycol USP
USP is United States Pharmacopeia, an independent organization that establishes standards for pharmaceuticals (drugs) sold in the the US and other countries. There is no higher standard of purity for these chemicals. Organic, GMO-free, Kosher and Halal may mean different things to different people but such descriptions or approvals are meaningless when it comes to establishing the purity of Glycerin or Propylene Glycol.
USP products use USP established containers and seals. Each container bears a lot number and expiration date.
I believe that pharmaceutical products in Canada can be labeled USP or BP (British Pharmacopoeia). The Glycerin and Propylene Glycol may be purchased off the shelf in drug stores just like in the USA.
Incidentally, most Glycerin USP sold in US drugstores is produced by Humco and often labeled with individual store brand names. It is usually sold in 177ml bottles. Humco glycerin is produced from vegetables and is USP and Kosher approved.
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Nobody knows what better/worse for health vaping glycerin or propylene glycol. Actually we eat propylene glycol quite often:
Propylene Glycol - Food
Propylene glycol USP/EP (pharmaceutical grade) has been approved for use as a food additive under the E-number E 1520. In direct food contact it is mainly used as
solvent and carrier of flavour or colour in the food and beverage manufacturing processes, to make drinks, biscuits, cakes, sweets
thickener, clarifier and stabiliser in food and beverage such as beer, salad dressings or baking mixtures
Propylene Glycol - Food
Propylene glycol USP/EP (pharmaceutical grade) has been approved for use as a food additive under the E-number E 1520. In direct food contact it is mainly used as
solvent and carrier of flavour or colour in the food and beverage manufacturing processes, to make drinks, biscuits, cakes, sweets
thickener, clarifier and stabiliser in food and beverage such as beer, salad dressings or baking mixtures
Another large user of glycerine is the medical industry. It's a carrier for injected medications. It's also used to create fog to carry medicines into patients' lungs. The nurses refer to it as a "breathing treatment" for people with emphysema, bronchitis, other ailments that impede efficient breathing.
And as Yzer wrote, our juice vendors use USP approved PG and VG in our juices. Many vapers vape nicotine free juices that only contain PG, VG, water, and flavorings.
A healthy alternative would be to abstain from smoking tobacco or vaping eliquids. Vaping has been proven to be a much better alternative to smoking combustible tobacco products.
And as Yzer wrote, our juice vendors use USP approved PG and VG in our juices. Many vapers vape nicotine free juices that only contain PG, VG, water, and flavorings.
A healthy alternative would be to abstain from smoking tobacco or vaping eliquids. Vaping has been proven to be a much better alternative to smoking combustible tobacco products.
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Right now, with no FDA regulations, anyone can slap an "organic" sticker on their e-juice. I even heard a guy say he only uses "medical grade vegetable glycerin."
Implying that's somehow gonna be different from the VG you can find anywhere else.
Generally, PG will carry flavors better than VG. So e-liquids that are mostly VG will include a higher percentage of flavoring then a mostly PG juice. VG will produce more vapor than PG. VG has a slightly sweet taste all on it's own. Some people prefer to vape one or the other or any combination possible of the two.
I keep things pretty simple. I DIY my juice using only Glycerin USP, 5% distilled water and 12mg/ml of nicotine. I don't use flavoring additives.
I keep things pretty simple. I DIY my juice using only Glycerin USP, 5% distilled water and 12mg/ml of nicotine. I don't use flavoring additives.
Beware. There are other grades of glycerin around. Some are industrial or technical grade and not safe for human consumption. These can be vegetable and/or animal (tallow) sourced.
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