Vaping at the movies....

[ta2dave76]

Wow...didnt know I'd open up such a large can of worms...

For the record- I had no intention of blowing huge clouds in the theatre. I just wanted to see yalls thoughts on the practice. If it had been just the three if us, and a few other patrons, then maybe I would have taken a couple of puffs- if we were at the back. But, since the place was just about full, and we were very near the front, I didnt even think about it. And no, I was not going through nic withdrawls or shaking like a junkie....and we enjoyed a killer movie for $25, thats for three tix, two lg sodas, and a big bag of kettle corn. I think the last time I was at the movies was for Prometheus and Django, so it had been awhile for me.

The only places in public I vape at is the bar I occasionally go to, and the vape shop. Sometimes WalMart....

 

[chadsmo]

…and we enjoyed a killer movie for $25, thats for three tix, two lg sodas, and a big bag of kettle corn.

Man that must be nice. Here three tickets and those snack would cost about 50$.

 

[ta2dave76]

Man that must be nice. Here three tickets and those snack would cost about 50$.

Had we gone to any of the other theatre's it would have. All of them are in the casino's, with their fancy chairs and stadium seating and 30 screens.

The "Cinethunderdome" as I call it it, is small, dingy, old, and reminds me of the one back east we would goto.

 

[bshm]

Wow...didnt know I'd open up such a large can of worms...

For the record- I had no intention of blowing huge clouds in the theatre. I just wanted to see yalls thoughts on the practice. If it had been just the three if us, and a few other patrons, then maybe I would have taken a couple of puffs- if we were at the back. But, since the place was just about full, and we were very near the front, I didnt even think about it. And no, I was not going through nic withdrawls or shaking like a junkie....and we enjoyed a killer movie for $25, thats for three tix, two lg sodas, and a big bag of kettle corn. I think the last time I was at the movies was for Prometheus and Django, so it had been awhile for me.

The only places in public I vape at is the bar I occasionally go to, and the vape shop. Sometimes WalMart....

I stealth vape practically everywhere except restaurants or someplace you could consider as close quarters. No one seems to notice.

 

[Jman8]

I do like the idea that was brought up on another thread on this topic.

Buy biggest cup theater sells, filled with ice. Vape inhale, and exhale into straw that will fill cup with lid on it.

Could be best stealth vaping idea, for a cinema, that I've heard of.

 

[ta2dave76]

I do like the idea that was brought up on another thread on this topic.

Buy biggest cup theater sells, filled with ice. Vape inhale, and exhale into straw that will fill cup with lid on it.

Could be best stealth vaping idea, for a cinema, that I've heard of.

Winning!!!!

 

[WillyZee]

I do like the idea that was brought up on another thread on this topic.

Buy biggest cup theater sells, filled with ice. Vape inhale, and exhale into straw that will fill cup with lid on it.

Could be best stealth vaping idea, for a cinema, that I've heard of.

nice idea ... however, those theatre Big Gulps are what? ... eleven dollars

 

[LDS714]

I stealth vape practically everywhere except restaurants or someplace you could consider as close quarters. No one seems to notice.

[Sarcasm]Just because no one notices, no one is harmed and it's not specifically prohibited doesn't mean you should do it. There may be those who would be offended or made uncomfortable if they suspect someone is enjoying something in their presence. Shame on you for not cowering away from polite society with the rest of the lepers!! [/Sarcasm]

 

[Baditude]

My personal feeling is, if you are discreet and responsible to other patrons, you can easily stealth vape and no one will know you are vaping. As I said in an earlier post:

• I generally go to a show that will not be overly crowded. I rarely go to brand new movies and will go during showtimes that I know will not be so populated.
• I always sit in the back row if at all possible, or at least sit as far away from other patrons as possible.
• I wait until the overhead lights are turned off.
• I do a double inhale technique. This involves taking small puffs, exhaling only a small part of the vapor, and then re-inhaling it. This greatly reduces the amount of visible vapor.
• I use a small PV that is easily concealed within my hand and pocket. If it has a LED display or fire button which lights up when activated, I make certain that I cover it up so that the light is not distracting to other patrons. I bring either a tiny Smoktech Gripper mechanical mod or my Mini Provari. A mini eGo and clearomizer would also work.

What people don't see won't bother them, especially in a darkened theatre.

 

[bshm]

Maybe you'll be kind enough to clarify it for me then Edd?

Is it that there is no causal connection between the behaviour of rowdy children and their inattentive parents, and children not being welcome in certain places? Is it that such bans are actually the handiwork of a shadowy conspiracy of anti-child extremists, funded by an international Big Pharma contraceptives racket?

C'mon man, he was talking about someone complaining about kids in a theatre that was showing a kids movie...

Some people feel like they should be entitled to be free from kids in public and it's the same entitlement mentality that extends to just about anything that these nancies might not care for. Apart from private clubs, fine dining establishments, liquor stores, bars, strip clubs, and restricted sections in hospitals etc etc I can't think of anywhere kids aren't welcome as long as they behave in a manner appropriate for the situation. Since it was a kids movie someone should have zero expectation to be free from laughing kids cutting up and such...

I don't think anyone was talking about the un disciplined brats but instead kids in general. Reading through some posts on here you would think that in order to be "respectful" I should hide under a blanket on the floor of my car just to vape because otherwise panties will bunch and it'll ruin everything...

Dude, if I have to hide then it's too late isn't it? I think that's all that the people with whom my opinions on this seem to be aligning are trying to say. And well, yeah, I look around and don't know where all these militant cloud blowers are that supposedly putting our disrespectful habit at risk. I think I have a sig though...

 

[generic mutant]

As I said earlier in the thread, I don't have a real issue with people stealthing it in a cinema. A lot of people say they've never met people who are obnoxious about it, maybe that's the difference - I have. I've seen people arguing till they're blue in the face that it isn't smoke and it's harmless, so nobody has any reason to ask them to stop. They look *exactly* like people who refuse to accept the smoking ban, and are working around it, which is funny, because that's *exactly* what people who take an extreme anti-tobacco position paint vapers as.

I'm certainly not urging people to hide it in places where it is expressly allowed. And I think that's the best way of 'normalising' it in the eyes of the public. If you have 'mixed' bars, with vapers and non-vapers, if the latter don't find the smell unpleasant, don't get allergic reactions, and don't hear any evidence that it causes them medical harm, I guess they'll grow to think it's OK.

Seems to be the path of least resistance, but hey, I'm sure this debate will go on for a while...

 

[Jman8]

Reading through some posts on here you would think that in order to be "respectful" I should hide under a blanket on the floor of my car just to vape because otherwise panties will bunch and it'll ruin everything...

My favorite quote on this thread.

Hyperbole? Yes. But not too far off from gist of what some people seem to mean by "respectful."

 

[OhmTheWatt]

I should like to see that. I would actually respect that person. Most of the anti-vape crowd prefers to run to management and have a third party handle their sensitivity issues. Sorry to hear your abrasive nature and aggressive tendencies are getting you into trouble with members of your community. Perhaps if you asked nicely before attempting to "grab a vape stick and stomp it out." I don't know if I could knock you out or not, but if you grabbed and stomped my PV, we certainly would find out.

But I have yet to see a single person in this thread advocate "putting a haze" or "blowing clouds". Despite that, I see a phalanx of straw men being set up by those that prefer I not vape in the theater. Why is that?

I have a simple suggestion. Stop talking about that. Nobody on this thread has suggested such a thing. What we are discussing in theaters is stealth vaping. Stealth vaping is not blowing clouds, and you all know it.

What's stealth in most situations might not be to the person directly behind you in a dark theater with the bright projection directly overhead.

Like I said if you can do it without disturbing other patrons have at it.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Maybe you'll be kind enough to clarify it for me then Edd?

Is it that there is no causal connection between the behaviour of rowdy children and their inattentive parents, and children not being welcome in certain places? Is it that such bans are actually the handiwork of a shadowy conspiracy of anti-child extremists, funded by an international Big Pharma contraceptives racket?

STRAW MAN ALERT. You allow two possibilities. One, children run amok. Two, a vast arching shadow conspiracy. Did you really think I would fall prey to this limitation placed on my answer?

Is there no causal connection? I will permit that there may be some (remote) causal connection in rare cases. But in the overwhelming majority of these cases, it is a place created to be child free, based on the life experiences of the designer/visionary of the place. Those bans are almost never enacted based on anecdotal horror stories. Have you seen a fine dining restaurant open up as a child-friendly place, and then enact a child ban after "Dennis the Menace" child visits and wreaks havoc? I have never heard of this happening.

Now permit me to turn your example against your premise! Riddle me this, GM...

If the boorish behavior of urchins (and their parents) are the cause of the ban, why are these types of places not permitting children almost never legislated? But with e-cigarettes, these legislative actions are common! Do you think that BP, ANTZ, and other legislatively well-oiled lobby groups might contribute to this disparity?

 

[Jman8]

So, how about this idea:

Vaping is reserved for the last 2 rows of this theater. We have other theaters in our establishment where vaping is prohibited. In this theater it is permitted as long as you are sitting in last 2 rows. Non-vapers who have no issue with vaping/vapers are permitted to sit in these rows as well.

This sort of policy would limit the number of vapers in the room, and thus limit the theoretical haze. Vapers would presumably be out of sight from everyone in the room (who is focussed on the screen) and so it would come down to matter of how hazy do things get. But with proper to excellent ventilation, I'm suddenly thinking it would be a non-issue.

 

[EddardinWinter]

So, how about this idea:

Vaping is reserved for the last 2 rows of this theater. We have other theaters in our establishment where vaping is prohibited. In this theater it is permitted as long as you are sitting in last 2 rows. Non-vapers who have no issue with vaping/vapers are permitted to sit in these rows as well.

This sort of policy would limit the number of vapers in the room, and thus limit the theoretical haze. Vapers would presumably be out of sight from everyone in the room (who is focussed on the screen) and so it would come down to matter of how hazy do things get. But with proper to excellent ventilation, I'm suddenly thinking it would be a non-issue.

I actually love this idea.

I suspect that with a minor tweak in ventilation controls, this change could be affected with almost no effect on the general viewing public in the theater using the HVAC that the owner already has in place.

 

[SAG]

Do I need a dang "policy" to sneeze? What has happened to us that we need a policy for every dang breath we take? Think people, think. Or is THAT asking too much?

BTW, bravo Edd, your post are spot on to what twirls in my mind. I just can't always get my fingers to elaborate!

Oh yeah, and I only use straw for decorating! Making an argument - not so much.

 

[Uma]

So you still believe that 20% of the population of the US can really shut down all these movie theaters? Now Malls are closing because of indoor smoking bans? How about the billions in revenue from Amazon? Yep, they have nothing to do with the decline of retail stores. I am sure online retail has less of an impact on malls than the smoking bans.

There are more than 20%, trust me. Closet smokers, smokers who bum but not purchase so therefore are ex-smokers lol, on the wagon-off the wagon rinse repeat, but 20% rebels with a clue is probably correct.

Yes, malls, restaurants, cafés, ... Anywhere they've taken away the smoking sections. Smokers only patronize when it's of dire importance. They prefer to shop online for everything and anything than to shop in a town that dismisses them as taxpayers. Businesses fold every day. The problem is, the higher the smoke taxes rise, even the online shops start struggling, because smokers buy smokes first, other necessities second. Vaping is allowing people to mingle and shop again. But even then, it's a battle. Take Starbucks, for instance, & town councils who place bribery grant money ahead of its community.
It's a domino effect, whether we admit it or not.
Get rid of the high smoke tax and ridiculous bans, educate honestly, promote vaping honestly, & we'd see a huge improvement in the economy. (After everyone stockpiled in fear of the next dictatorship, greedy ban/tax).
Citizens freely shopping is what stirs the economy. Tax mugging and bans stop the economy.

 

[EddardinWinter]

What's stealth in most situations might not be to the person directly behind you in a dark theater with the bright projection directly overhead.

Like I said if you can do it without disturbing other patrons have at it.

In the other thread about this, I told a story where I went to see the new Riddick movie with two friends. Both knew that I vaped. One knew me to be a stealth vaper in theaters, the other had no idea. At the end of the movie I told the friend who did not know that I had stealth vaped the entire movie. He had not detected a whiff of vapor nor the first scent of it. He actually thought I was making it up, until I showed him a demonstration of my double inhale/exhale through a handkerchief technique. Almost no vapor escapes, and what little there is is close to my body. There is no way someone behind me would see it, unless they were watching me intently to see it. I use my ProVari for this, with the LED light for the button turned off, so there is no visible light to give me away if I keep the vapor under control.

If I was detected by another movie-goer and that person asked me to stop, I would stop immediately. I am not trying to ruin another person's movie experience, just to enhance mine.

 

[generic mutant]

(I might have to change my avatar to a certain Wizard of Oz character at this rate...)

...If the boorish behavior of urchins (and their parents) are the cause of the ban, why are these types of places not permitting children almost never legislated? But with e-cigarettes, these legislative actions are common! Do you think that BP, ANTZ, and other legislatively well-oiled lobby groups might contribute to this disparity?

I guess from my side of the fence, the difference is exactly that: nobody is trying to get parenting banned.

People *are* trying to get vaping banned. Some of them have significant power, money and influence. One of their favourite arguments is "The smoking ban was effective at getting people to quit. They have now, deus ex machina, evaded the ban. To finish the job, we need to ban e-cigarettes".

We are presently in a precarious situation. But the science is increasingly on our side, and there are *many* public places where it is perfectly acceptable to vape (at least for most of us). It's not like we're all meeting up in graveyards at 3 o'clock in the morning to wrap coils. The public *are* becoming used to seeing vapers, and generally probably don't think of vaping as simply "a way to dodge the ban".

Rocking this boat too much just seems risky and unnecessary. Although I concede, in the scheme of things, the cinemas issue is a very small point - and it's something I wouldn't feel bad about doing if nobody noticed. People are always texting, talking, eating loudly in cinemas. Chucking a little more into the mix is unlikely to change much.