Vape very hot, what am I doing wrong?

[Slappy1981]

so I'm back into vaping. Got the tfv8 from the store. Came home and fired it up. Ugh, leaking very bad and burning my lips. Threw that coil out and put in the other one it came with. No leaking. But the coil says it's best at 120-180 watts. But the most I can go is about 90 watts before it gets so hot it burns my lips. What am I doing wrong? I'm using it on a sigelei 150TC mod.

 

[Aus11]

If your batteries are not rated for that kind of wattage they may be getting overloaded due to the watt load. What type of batteries are you using?

 

[anavidfan]

Have you vaped at those wattages before? Im probably not the norm, but anything over 15 watts gives me that experience. What is the coils resistance you put in?

I hope someone that is more of a power vaper comes in to help

 

[Topwater Elvis]

You have to move a lot of air through the tfv8 to help cool the coil & vapor. (DTL)

Are you trying to MTL the delivery device?

Just because the head says best between 120w - 180w doesn't mean you must use it in that range.
Always adjust power to suit your individual preference.

 

[Slappy1981]

Batteries- Samsung 25R and I have Sony vct4
Coil is .15
Never vaped that high, usually around 50-60 watts on my T4 tanks.

 

[Slappy1981]

You have to move a lot of air through the tfv8 to help cool the coil & vapor. (DTL)

Are you trying to MTL the delivery device?

Just because the head says best between 120w - 180w doesn't mean you must use it in that range.
Always adjust power to suit your individual preference.

I do straight lung.
I know, seems to be about 75watts for my sweet spot. But sometimes I want to get a huge cloud but can't take the heat, lol.

 

[jcoopercam]

A 1 Ohm coil at around 15 watts should be perfect. I'm currently using a .90 Ohm coil at 20 watts in my Hadaly/VT Inbox mod. Love it!

 

[Slappy1981]

A 1 Ohm coil at around 15 watts should be perfect. I'm currently using a .90 Ohm coil at 20 watts in my Hadaly/VT Inbox mod. Love it!

I don't use 1 ohm coils
Highest I use is .20

 

[listopencil]

In my experience vaping at higher Wattages doesn't satisfy my smoking cravings. Also, any tank I have tried gets hot when I take it over 55-ish Watts. I have to have some serious airflow to even attempt a good vape over 75 Watts. The few times I took it over 100 Watts I could only vape a few times in a row before having to allow the tank to cool off. There are things you can do to help though. Start pulling in air before you hit the button and keep pulling air after you let the button go. Make sure you have the airflow wide open. Use the widest bore (inside diameter) drip tip that will fit on your tank. The only thing that's going to keep your vape from heating up is airflow. Honestly, though, I have found that lower Wattage MTL vaping is what keeps me off of the cigs. It's fun and (usually) flavorful to do it the way that you are doing but it didn't work for me.

 

[sonicbomb]

The more power you use, the more airflow you will need and the more efficient the wicking will need to be to keep up.
High wattage vaping is going to be hot. If it seems too hot for your taste, then it is.
Free your mind from the concept that more wattage equates to a better vape.
Trust your mouth and your taste buds as to what is right for you, not what is stamped on the side of the equipment or what Joe Clowdzsbro tells you.

 

[Pheric]

umm.. chain vaping gets the tank very hot, and wattage matters bro

 

[Bunnykiller]

just because the coil sez its good for 120-180W does not mean its supposed to be used at that wattage... try 40W and see how it works..

cars also do the same thing.. the speedometer sez 120mph but that doesnt mean you should drive it that fast

 

[stols001]

Yes... recommended wattages on the coil is just that... I don't think I've ever vaped a sub-ohm device at more than 50 watts, and even that was too hot for me. I usually sub-ohm at about 30 watts, and work my way up there, slowly, by turning up the watts (which will help prime your coil).

If you haven't tried a MTL tank, this might be the time. You can get one fairly cheaply and I won't go into specifics as there are several informative MTL threads going on at the moment. It's a very different vape experience, you may love it or hate it.

But, just try turning your tank WAAYYY down, first. See if you can get a satisfying vape by adjusting watts, airflow, etc.

Best of luck!

Anna

 

[Slappy1981]

just because the coil sez its good for 120-180W does not mean its supposed to be used at that wattage... try 40W and see how it works..

cars also do the same thing.. the speedometer sez 120mph but that doesnt mean you should drive it that fast

I get that, but the coil says "best at" not "good at". It's good at 50-250
So I figured best means best, lol.

 

[mattiem]

are you going to listen to a manufacturer that wants you to buy more coils by hitting them with high wattage and burning them up quickly or are you going to listen to your body telling you that it is just too hot? Several folks have already suggested turning the wattage down and opening up the air flow to lower the heat but of course you are free to listen or not.

Low Ω high wattage isn't for everyone and if I can believe all the post I have read attesting to the fact, it really isn't necessary if producing massive clouds happens to be ones goal. There are those that can cloud up a room and then some with builds 1.00 Ω and above and much lower wattage than is printed on your coils. You might want to look into that option instead of burning your lips with your .2 Ω builds.

I can't help you with your quest though since I vape @ 7-10 watts with a 1.5 or 1.8 Ω coil but I don't vape for huge clouds. My main goal is to replace smoking with vaping and looking at your quit date and smokes avoided it seems that was your goal too. That is one goal I am happy to see we have both reached.

It wasn't all that long ago that my coils would have been considered super low. Oh my, how quickly all things vaping seem to change.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

One of the mods I use most won't even fire a coil below 1.0 and maxes out at 15w. Flavor and vapor volume are "ahhh..."

Another mod I have maxes out at 75w and the cloud impresses (or annoys) everyone around.

If it takes 100w plus to roll your socks up and down, cool beans. But the coil, liquid and battery budget is gonna be ginormous

 

[DaveP]

Back down to 40W and work from there. One of two things is happening with your current setup. Either there's not enough airflow to cool the coil or the juice flow isn't up to feeding your coil fast enough. There's also a coil prep routine you have to do through to ensure that you don't get dry hits. Maybe you've done all this, but it's in the quote below.

The bolded part at the bottom of the quote below may help. It seems that the TFV8 needs to sit for 10 minutes after filling to let the wick to soak up the juice. They also recommend that you soak the coil wicking prior to installing and filling the tank and then dry hit the coil to feed even more juice.

$32.99 - TFV8 tank - Turbo charged cloud beast - Subohm.com
Guidelines to changing the coil on the TVF8
When it’s time to change or screw in a brand new coil, you need to take some steps to prepare the coil. The procedure is quite simple. Just follow the steps and you are set for a really dreamlike experience.

• Unscrew the base from the bottom of the TFV8.
• Unscrew the old coil.
• Double-check the hole in the base where the coil screws in, so there is no liquid there. If so, just wipe it out carefully.
• Screw in a new coil.
• Take your bottle of liquid you are about to use in the TFV8 tank.
• Drop 1-3 drops on each of the holes located on the side of the coil where you can see the cotton. The cotton will absorb the liquid. Keep doing this until you see that the coil cannot absorb anymore.
• Screw the base back to the tank. But be careful! Don’t screw it to tight, just enough so you feel a resistance and then a bit more.
• Push the plate on the top to reveal the hole for filling. Fill the tank between the tube in the middle, and the glass. Leave about 1 – 2 mm from the top of the tube in the middle. Push the plate back to its place.
• While you are puffing, you will create a small vacuum in the tank which sucks in the base even more. So as advice, we recommend you act like you’re puffing, without actually pressing the button, just to insure full cotton moisture.
• Let the tank rest for 10 minutes so you are 100% sure of that the coil is soaked.
• Start puffing at low watts and work your way up slowly. This will extend the life of the coil.

 

[Mike McVape]

I get that, but the coil says "best at" not "good at". It's good at 50-250
So I figured best means best, lol.

In this case need to take into consideration what the TFV8 was designed for and hence it's name Cloud Beast. Clouds! The T-8 coil you are using is a powerhouse for clouds with some flavor balance at it's best 120-180w is what Smok is saying. If you and your lungs can't handle that power as others have said dial it down! The T-8 is rated as low as 50w so as suggested start at it's bottom rating and work your way up to find what works best for you and your juice. My old 48 years of smoking lungs can't handle that much power/vape production. (I'm playing with dialing in an even worse case, TFV12 Cloud Beast King, but have 4 Big Baby Beasts main attys)

 

[OlderNDirt]

I've had my TFV8 for some time now, don't hit it every day or for long periods, but do like it for when I want a bit more. I was getting along just fine with the X4 coils up around 115-120 watts. Put a new coil in the other day, same as I had many times. It started getting really hot at 100 watts and was unvapable above that. I cranked it back down to about 85 watts, still on the warm side for me, but will get a little mileage out of it. I am not sure why this coil got so hot, but seems the air flow is rather restricted for some reason. I don't mind playing around with this coil a bit, but will change it out after a bit and see if a new coil works better. It may just be a bad coil or part of a bad run/box. If I can make them work at any wattage, I'll use 'em up and move on to the box of T8 coils I've got in stock.

Sorry, really not much help for you other then as others have said start at a lower wattage and move up in steps until it starts getting too hot or starts losing flavor. Enjoy it there no matter where it settles in for wattage, And now, I figure even if I put in a new coil, it may not hit the same wattage as the one it replaced,

 

[Slappy1981]

Thanks everyone.
I guess I just thought I was doing something wrong at a high wattage. I mean my lungs can handle it, but it's so hot it burns my lips at 110 watts, and the coil says best at 120, I figured it was me, lol. Seems to me the best vape is at around 80.
I just got back into vaping, I'll be playing around with different coils to see what I like.