Trident V1 vs Trident V2?

[thenebulous]

Hey vapers! Quick question. I'm about to get into RDA's, which I've never had, and I've finally settled on the Trident. I simply cannot dish out the $95, especially seeing as I've never even had a dripper, so I will suffice for a clone. Now I can get the Trident V2 clone for $33 and the original Trident clone for $18 - if you were in my boat what would you do?

Are the improvements worth nearly double the price?

I like that it only has one o-ring as people said the original Trident was tough to get apart, but they both seem equally difficult in changing airflow so there's not much improvement there. I just want a nice dripper that's going to perform as needed.

on a side note, how do you like drippers like dripping over tanks? Do you drip always or only in your home?

I like to switch up flavors often so I see this as a good fit for me. My fluid is already on hand at all times so carrying it wont be a big deal. I'll still have my Protank 3 and more spares to fall back on. I just hope that the dripper holds enough drips for 20-30 puffs. People say dripping is messy, but I think unscrewing and filling my tanks is messy and especially difficult when most of my time is spent on the road. I'm just having a pretty hard time deciding because my tanks work now but they definitely have cons such as my preference for VG fluids that don't want to wick on a system designed for a 50/50 mix, so I go in to take out a few strands of wick and then I'm gurgling and juice is in my mouth and on my pants and what not. The Taifun GT is on my to buy list as well, but I feel I need a dripper, and if I don't fall in love the Trident would still be a perfect flavor sampler.

 

[State O' Flux]

Now I can get the Trident V2 clone for $33 and the original Trident clone for $18 - if you were in my boat what would you do?
Are the improvements worth nearly double the price?

Please provide links to the brand/versions you are looking at - there are so many Tridents on the market that seeing exactly what you want may allow (myself and) others to lead you to a better price point or product.

how do you like drippers like dripping over tanks? Do you drip always or only in your home?

RDAs still provide the best flavor... although some RBAs are gaining ground and can be near equals with certain types of builds/juices. Some can "drip and drive" - as I drive a manual trans Jeep, I find it just a bit too busy for safe driving and prefer a carto tank or Kayfun/Russian.

I just hope that the dripper holds enough drips for 20-30 puffs.

If I understand you correctly - - "20-30" of my 5-10 second lung draw "puffs"? Not even the (relatively) deep, kidney shaped juice wells of a Origen will offer that.
I get 4-5 draws from a well saturated, dual coil, 0.5Ω net resistance Trident before dripping. If by "puffs" you mean a 1 second mouth draw, you might get close to 20 "puffs". ;-)

I'm just having a pretty hard time deciding because my tanks work now but they definitely have cons such as my preference for VG fluids that don't want to wick on a system designed for a 50/50 mix, so I go in to take out a few strands of wick and then I'm gurgling and juice is in my mouth and on my pants and what not.

Having a better understanding of how PD atomizers work may offer some guidance in that regard.

 

[eda123]

I moved to RBA and RDA from Protank 3's as you are using now.

I get about 10 good drags from one "drip dose". All depends on how you wick.

I drip probably 70% of the time now, and the other 30% is on my kayfun. I use the kayfun when driving (dont want to drip and drive), and usually late at night because I dont want to over do the nic consumption with my dripper (massive vapor/nic with it!).

I like dripping for exactly what you state- I kinda have flavor A.D.D., and constantly like switching it up. Drippers not only give the best flavor/vapor for me, but they allow the constant switching of flavors

 

[Exile]

I'm about to get into RDA's, which I've never had, and I've finally settled on the Trident. Now I can get the Trident V2 clone for $33 and the original Trident clone for $18 - if you were in my boat what would you do?

I would get the Trident V2 for $16.99 and call it done...

Trident v2 RDA Stainless Steel Replica

 

[thenebulous]

Please provide links to the brand/versions you are looking at - there are so many Tridents on the market that seeing exactly what you want may allow (myself and) others to lead you to a better price point or product.

RDAs still provide the best flavor... although some RBAs are gaining ground and can be near equals with certain types of builds/juices. Some can "drip and drive" - as I drive a manual trans Jeep, I find it just a bit too busy for safe driving and prefer a carto tank or Kayfun/Russian.

If I understand you correctly - - "20-30" of my 5-10 second lung draw "puffs"? Not even the (relatively) deep, kidney shaped juice wells of a Origen will offer that.
I get 4-5 draws from a well saturated, dual coil, 0.5Ω net resistance Trident before dripping. If by "puffs" you mean a 1 second mouth draw, you might get close to 20 "puffs". ;-)

Having a better understanding of how PD atomizers work may offer some guidance in that regard.

Awesome response, exactly what I was looking for!

I have a pretty good understanding of how PD atomizers work, and I've gotten all mine to function well for now, but I actually just thought of something I didn't do after removing some flavor wicks, so thanks for reminding me. I believe I didn't puff up the remaining flavor wicking to fill the empty space from the removal of the other - a silly mistake, but that should fix things up.

I've been a long time member here, although I don't pop my head in too often because generally I can grasp something on my own and the threads go so in depth I never need to chime in if I just keep searching for my answer. I picked vaping back up in October, so there is some new stuff to be learned but I'm picking up rather quick.

I knew I was overshooting those puffs shortly after posting but I was still hoping to be in the 10-20 range! Darn though, 4-5 is a slight bummer. Even if this wasn't my daily atty it would serve for a great flavor sampler so I'm still open to trying out dripping and seeing how it suits me! Plus, any RDA build be a nice intro to rebuildables in general.

I'll still have my Kangers until I get a Taifun so I will have some tanks for driving if it turns into a hassle. I actually just got my first automatic(I miss that stick ), so filling and driving would be less of an issue, but I don't even want to be faced with that situation really.

I think I might just take the dive and order the Trident V2 from Venerable Vapes seeing as its only $17 - to answer your question though, the Tridents I was looking up didn't have a manufacture displayed - they are obvious clones but I don't know manufacturer, I'm just going to assume Tobeco for all.

Just to double check it is safe to test the OHMs of my coils on my SVD using the OHM checking function, correct?

I moved to RBA and RDA from Protank 3's as you are using now.

I get about 10 good drags from one "drip dose". All depends on how you wick.

I drip probably 70% of the time now, and the other 30% is on my kayfun. I use the kayfun when driving (dont want to drip and drive), and usually late at night because I dont want to over do the nic consumption with my dripper (massive vapor/nic with it!).

I like dripping for exactly what you state- I kinda have flavor A.D.D., and constantly like switching it up. Drippers not only give the best flavor/vapor for me, but they allow the constant switching of flavors

You're awesome! Thanks for this post it has steered me even further to RDA. Everthing you say is music to my ears.

I would get the Trident V2 for $16.99 and call it done...

Trident v2 RDA Stainless Steel Replica

I just saw that! Must have been posted today as I was hard in searching yesterday. Thanks a bunch!

 

[State O' Flux]

Just to double check it is safe to test the OHMs of my coils on my SVD using the OHM checking function, correct?

Not as accurate as a good DMM, or even a better quality ohm/build box, but it will do unless you want to delve into deep sub-ohm - like say under 0.3Ω - then accuracy becomes a bit more critical because even a 0.1Ω variance can be dramatic.

 

[thenebulous]

Not as accurate as a good DMM, or even a better quality ohm/build box, but it will do unless you want to delve into deep sub-ohm - like say under 0.3Ω - then accuracy becomes a bit more critical because even a 0.1Ω variance can be dramatic.

Okay I'll look into getting another device for checking ohms in the future. Unfortunately I can't even build sub-ohm coils as I'm on the SVD and it won't fire below 1.3 ohms, plus I'd like a better understanding of how things operate before I go that deep.

Since I need to get my OHMs to at least 1.3, would 28 gauge kanthal be alright for a dual coil setup? I could get something thicker but 28 gauge seems good for a lot of things such as twisting which brings me to my next question...

I was even thinking a twisted 28 gauge dual coil micro build, but I haven't seen anybody do that yet, is there a reason why? I saw a video where the guy made a 1ohm twisted micro coil and I was thinking of just mounting two to total 2ohms. To me that sounds like a really awesome build, but I've never even built a coil, so who am I to say.

By the way thanks so much for the help, I really don't mean to bombard you with questions. I'm just trying to get a quick order together tonight as I've already ordered that Trident and I'm getting so excited to start!

 

[Exile]

For building coils to fire on your SDV (1.3 ohm) I would suggest 30g kanthal. To get a 1.3+ ohm coil using 28g kanthal will take forever to heat up. 28g kanthal is better for 0.5-1 ohm coils.

 

[thenebulous]

For building coils to fire on your SDV (1.3 ohm) I would suggest 30g kanthal. To get a 1.3+ ohm coil using 28g kanthal will take forever to heat up. 28g kanthal is better for 0.5-1 ohm coils.

Okay cool, thanks. I just saw that 28 gauge seems to be very popular, but most people are running mechs these days anyway. Is there any build in specific that seems to be superior to you, that would be suitable for me?

 

[Exile]

I prefer a single 0.9-1.1 ohm micro coil using 28g kanthal around a 1/16 drill bit with cotton.

For you a would suggest a 1.3-1.5 ohm micro coil using 30g kanthal around a 1/16 drill bit with cotton...

 

[thenebulous]

Awesome. Everyone is being so helpful! How I always knew these forums to be.

I prefer a single 0.9-1.1 ohm micro coil using 28g kanthal around a 1/16 drill bit with cotton.

For you a would suggest a 1.3-1.5 ohm micro coil using 30g kanthal around a 1/16 drill bit with cotton...

30 gauge is a 60% higher resistance, so your 0.9-1.1ohm build would be 1.4-1.8ohms which would be perfect for me, that's great! How many wraps do you make?

 

[eda123]

For building coils to fire on your SDV (1.3 ohm) I would suggest 30g kanthal. To get a 1.3+ ohm coil using 28g kanthal will take forever to heat up. 28g kanthal is better for 0.5-1 ohm coils.

I'm curious, why is this so? If you have two 1.3 ohm coils, one with 28g and one with 30g, why does the 28g take longer to heat up. It will have fewer wraps so I would think it would take less time, if not equal.


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[scrappy]

From the pics it looks like the biggest difference between the v1 and v2 is the air flow control is part of the cap now. That's awesome because the v1 top cap would hit your coils if you like to build them close to the air holes.

 

[JBL-37]

Awesome. Everyone is being so helpful! How I always knew these forums to be.

This is an awesome place that's for sure!

From the pics it looks like the biggest difference between the v1 and v2 is the air flow control is part of the cap now. That's awesome because the v1 top cap would hit your coils if you like to build them close to the air holes.

I suggest the v2, I have both and they are both great rda's. V2 is a better design though IMO...

You'll be happy with either though.

 

[Exile]

I'm curious, why is this so? If you have two 1.3 ohm coils, one with 28g and one with 30g, why does the 28g take longer to heat up. It will have fewer wraps so I would think it would take less time, if not equal.

It would actually take more wraps on the 28g to get it to 1.3 ohm, and with it being thicker wire it will take longer to heat up.

 

[thenebulous]

Collecting some very helpful information here. Don't have time to quote individually but everything in the thread is helpful and I thank you all. I've settled on the V2 so my first rebuildable purchase goes as follows (please critique me if you see something wrong here)

-Trident V2
-Natures Palette (unbleached and undyed) organic 100% cotton yarn (yarn [not this specific brand] was recommended elsewhere and I thought it would be a fun build material especially being all natural as I'm very health conscious as of late)
-Kanthal A-1 30 gauge

Got some silica wick at home as well if you guys have some reason to be against the yarn, but it honestly seems like the most natural option

 

[Exile]

Got some silica wick at home as well if you guys have some reason to be against the yarn, but it honestly seems like the most natural option

CVS 100% Sterile Rolled Cotton is the best wick out there. (imo)

$6 for a lifetime supply! lol

CVS Rolled Cotton - CVS pharmacy

 

[thenebulous]

CVS 100% Sterile Rolled Cotton is the best wick out there. (imo)

$6 for a lifetime supply! lol

CVS Rolled Cotton - CVS pharmacy

That is a great deal, but I have skimmed through tons of threads where people mention organic cotton, and if the option exists that's what I'll likely go to.

The yarn was 50g/115yds for $5.25, which is a pretty good deal in my eyes, lets just see how it works. I do really like the fact that it is organic and unbleached as well. I wouldn't mind getting about half weight for my money to support the organic scene and a smaller corporation than CVS. If it does turn out to be a decent wick it will be unfortunate because the product has been discontinued. Maybe I can find some unbleached organic cotton in bulk somewhere online if the yarn doesn't turn out to be a good wicking system.

 

[thenebulous]

If I wanted a dual nano coil to perform, which I do, I would have to use higher gauge kanthal to get it to perform in my SVD, right? And does this sound like something desirable?

I want a vapor beast that holds a lot of juice right now. I really just want to know the best setup for my SVD right now. I do wire wrapping for art and have many tools at hand so the sophistication in building the coil doesn't matter much.

 

[redrum801]

I just received my V2 yesterday and I'm loving it ! got a 1.30hm micro coil on it using 28 gauge kanthal and organic cotton wick , coil was wrapped about 5-6 times around a 1/16th Dremel bit . I ran it on my nemesis clone and my SVD . SVD has the 10 second shut off so gotta admit it performs a bit better on the nemmy if your looking for those big lung inhales . This was my very first RDA and the vapor production was just awesome using alpha The Dude e-liquid . I gotta admit the flavor was a bit muted , anything I can do to fix that ?? Thanks in advance for your replies and advice !!