Throat hit questions

[linnx]

I have both manual switch and automatic switch.. The SD and 901 amongst a few others. I get better hits on the SD (Manual) hands down. I do get decent hits from the 901, but not as good as the SD. Combine 24mg nicotine with the SD and I get really great hits.

 

[breakfastchef]

Throat hit is consistantly outstanding if you use a high voltage power source. Add a manual switch to the mix and throat hit can be too much form many vapers.

I can sit down with three penstyle devices (njoy NCIG with auto battery, Best ECig with a USB Pass-through and my 801 Magnum mooded flashlight). The NCIG battery is putting out about 3.7 volts, produces decent vapor and no throat hit. The BestEcig is getting 5 volts from a USB port and produces better vapor and a slightly enhanced throat hit. The 801 Magnum mod running at 6 volts is more like taking a drag off a full-flavored analog than anything else in my arsenal. I have used juices from 36mg to 18mg and consistantly prefer the 801 Magnum expereince. While nicotine seems to give more sting to the throat hit, a higher voltage device or one with a manual switch seems to support that heat plays an important role in throat hit. I only use auto batteries when they are more convenient (like out of the house) and use higher powered sources at all other times.

 

[wv2win]

I have both manual switch and automatic switch.. The SD and 901 amongst a few others. I get better hits on the SD (Manual) hands down. I do get decent hits from the 901, but not as good as the SD. Combine 24mg nicotine with the SD and I get really great hits.

Same with me linnx. You are 100% right and your experience mirrors everyones experience with both type of units that I have read on the forum.

 

[wv2win]

Throat hit is consistantly outstanding if you use a high voltage power source. Add a manual switch to the mix and throat hit can be too much form many vapers.

I can sit down with three penstyle devices (NJOY NCIG with auto battery, Best ECig with a USB Pass-through and my 801 Magnum mooded flashlight). The NCIG battery is putting out about 3.7 volts, produces decent vapor and no throat hit. The BestEcig is getting 5 volts from a USB port and produces better vapor and a slightly enhanced throat hit. The 801 Magnum mod running at 6 volts is more like taking a drag off a full-flavored analog than anything else in my arsenal. I have used juices from 36mg to 18mg and consistantly prefer the 801 Magnum expereince. While nicotine seems to give more sting to the throat hit, a higher voltage device or one with a manual switch seems to support that heat plays an important role in throat hit. I only use auto batteries when they are more convenient (like out of the house) and use higher powered sources at all other times.

Very well said, breakfastchef and I agree completely.

 

[wv2win]

Please do not posts anything else about me because you obviously do not know me, my experience or anything about me.

Thanks and have a great day.

DW

I know the one thing that is most consistent and most important about you - you are full of yourself and attack others providing advice to new members and thus you are a distraction and not helpful.

 

[dumwaldo]

I do get decent hits from the 901,

You must be confused. I was told that throat hit is non-existent or inconsistent with an automatic switch device. You seem to be saying the opposite of that.

I guess you are as inexperienced as me huh?8-o

 

[dumwaldo]

I know the one thing that is most consistent and most important about you - you are full of yourself and attack others providing advice to new members and thus you are a distraction and not helpful.

No, you just seem to have a reading comprehension problem and somehow got the idea that I said something I never said.

What I have said...
you can get good throat hit from an automatic switched device and there is no need to spend a few hundred dollars on additional equipment just to get a throat hit. (I stand by that opinion 100%)

Somehow your mind distorted that into 'an automatic device gives better throat hit than a manual device. That is NOT something I said, it is something you made up.

DW

 

[wv2win]

You must be confused. I was told that throat hit is non-existent or inconsistent with an automatic switch device. You seem to be saying the opposite of that.

I guess you are as inexperienced as me huh?8-o

Way to take comments out of context and then twist them. You have some serious issues.

 

[dumwaldo]

Way to take comments out of context and then twist them. You have some serious issues.

It doesn't really matter since he has a low post count and holds no credibility right?

At least thats how it would apply if I were the one who said it.

Seriously, you are a troll. Go look it up. check the qualities and notice how many apply to you and the way you post and the things you say. You are a legend in your own mind and it is abundantly clear.

I get it, you are a manual device fanboy and are incapable of admitting ANY positives even exist for devices that do not include a manual switch. You are unconcerned with contradicting yourself as long as you can brow beat whoever you are putting down for not sharing your opinion.

Sorry but my independent thought process is still intact and I, like many others, don't want to look like some kind of outpatient sucking on a flashlight when I go into public. I, like many others, expect to be able to get some use out of what I already purchased before discarding it and spending a few hundred dollars on more equipment. I, like many others, am able to find ways to make the automatic equipment we own work properly.

DW


BTW
for the VERY LAST TIME, stop with the personal attacks. Come up with some kind of line of discussion that actually stands on the merits of what you are saying instead of continually trying to make it a personal thing.

 

[SharonLM]

I searched for the 801 magnum and the only thing I found eluded to these being hand (or home) made devices. Is that true? I think it's the throat hit that I desire more than anything. And when I can, I sure want to get a screwdriver.

Oh and vw, I see you are in Lawrenceville, I'm in Dallas almost directly West of you, a little North West that is.

Throat hit is consistantly outstanding if you use a high voltage power source. Add a manual switch to the mix and throat hit can be too much form many vapers.

I can sit down with three penstyle devices (NJOY NCIG with auto battery, Best ECig with a USB Pass-through and my 801 Magnum mooded flashlight). The NCIG battery is putting out about 3.7 volts, produces decent vapor and no throat hit. The BestEcig is getting 5 volts from a USB port and produces better vapor and a slightly enhanced throat hit. The 801 Magnum mod running at 6 volts is more like taking a drag off a full-flavored analog than anything else in my arsenal. I have used juices from 36mg to 18mg and consistantly prefer the 801 Magnum expereince. While nicotine seems to give more sting to the throat hit, a higher voltage device or one with a manual switch seems to support that heat plays an important role in throat hit. I only use auto batteries when they are more convenient (like out of the house) and use higher powered sources at all other times.

 

[wv2win]

I searched for the 801 magnum and the only thing I found eluded to these being hand (or home) made devices. Is that true? I think it's the throat hit that I desire more than anything. And when I can, I sure want to get a screwdriver.

Oh and vw, I see you are in Lawrenceville, I'm in Dallas almost directly West of you, a little North West that is.

Sharon, all the manual switch devices are made mostly by individuals other than the Janty Dura-C and the Joye 510 (which is a Dura-C). Trog does have the device machined but I believe it is a family run little business. And of course the same with the Zi Moshi. But they do work amazingly well from all reports.

 

[breakfastchef]

I coined the phrase 801 Magnum because my mod was for an 801 or penstyle atomizer. madog's original mod was for a 901 atomizer. Chances are, you will find little information about the 801 Magnum on the forums. That said, if you are at all handy with a soldering iron, try to build one. If not, a few forum members like secondson, the Greek Guy (GG) and trog are offering them for purchase. I am certain that you will be absolutely thrilled with any of those devices. I have an 801 Magnum out on loan, but I have no idea where it is right now. Last report was Oklahoma.

 

[wv2win]

It doesn't really matter since he has a low post count and holds no credibility right?

At least thats how it would apply if I were the one who said it.

Seriously, you are a troll. Go look it up. check the qualities and notice how many apply to you and the way you post and the things you say. You are a legend in your own mind and it is abundantly clear.

I get it, you are a manual device fanboy and are incapable of admitting ANY positives even exist for devices that do not include a manual switch. You are unconcerned with contradicting yourself as long as you can brow beat whoever you are putting down for not sharing your opinion.

Sorry but my independent thought process is still intact and I, like many others, don't want to look like some kind of outpatient sucking on a flashlight when I go into public. I, like many others, expect to be able to get some use out of what I already purchased before discarding it and spending a few hundred dollars on more equipment. I, like many others, am able to find ways to make the automatic equipment we own work properly.

DW


BTW
for the VERY LAST TIME, stop with the personal attacks. Come up with some kind of line of discussion that actually stands on the merits of what you are saying instead of continually trying to make it a personal thing.

dum, you really do have serious issues that we would all appreciate if you would keep them off the forum.

You started, as you have done in the past, by attacking another poster giving advice. Then you attack anyone you disagrees with you, as you have done in the past.

Other posters came into the thread and stated exactly what I have stated about the advantages to a manual switch device. There is mountains of posts extolling the advantages of manual switch devices and devices with larger batteries. All of us who state that manuals have definite advantages over auto switch devices have tried both and know the differences. You haven't tried both, confirmed by your own picture.

The lack of logic in your posts, the way you twist what others post, ignore the many posters who disagree with you and the way you attack other people's advice on a regular basis instead of just provide your own opinion points to the fact that you have issues that can not be and should not be dealt with on this forum.

 

[dumwaldo]

Dude, I am really sorry that the op liked what I had to say better.

Thanks, I think you're right with regard to the good throat hit being something each person needs to find (the best way) for themselves.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

DW

Better luck next time, maybe someone will care.

 

[lorraineg57]

The cart on the left gives me great throat hit but the cart on the right is dismal.

DW

So if I make the hole itself bigger, I'll get better throat hit? What about dura cartridges (the round ones with one hole it the center) more holes or bigger hole?

 

[dumwaldo]

To open up the 901 carts I turn it sideways and bite down on it. That causes the cap that is inserted into the end to pop out. (if you do this please be sure to use your tongue to block the cap from shooting down your throat.)

You could also use a paperclip and stick it in the hole then wiggle the cap off.

I don't know about DURA carts as I have never even handled a DURA but I would suggest trying the paperclip method on a cart and see if it has an end cap that restricts things.

My 4081 has end caps on the cart also and though the difference is not as dramatic as with the 901, it still improves performance to remove the end cap. The inner part of the cart does have a slightly larger hole than the outside end cap.

The 4081 seems to perform best using a pen style cartridge tip and dripping the atomizer.

DW

BTW
sorry the picture is blurry. here is something a little better...

notice the end caps are next to the 'open' carts.

and here is the pen style cart tip on a 4081...

 

[lorraineg57]

Thanks for the clarification.... )

 

[lorraineg57]

Hi all: I've been vaping for 2 1/2 days now and have some questions about the throat hit.

The cartridges that came with my kits that are marked high give me a good throat hit, have no idea the ml.

When I refresh the cart with Instead's 24ml I may get one or two satisfactory throat hits then almost no throat hit after that.

I've tried putting up to 5 drops (started with 3) in the fiber in the cart, but that didn't seem to be enough.

Why am I not getting a good throat hit from this? Is it the liquid, is it something else? I really want that throat hit, it means so much to me, LOL.

Any suggestions?

With adding that much liquid, are you sure you're not flooding the atomizer? Mine was just acting up: took the cart off, detached the atomizer from the battery, blew through the end that attaches to the battery really hard a few times and drips of liquid came out of the cartridge end. Re-attach and it vapes much better.

 

[SharonLM]

With adding that much liquid, are you sure you're not flooding the atomizer? Mine was just acting up: took the cart off, detached the atomizer from the battery, blew through the end that attaches to the battery really hard a few times and drips of liquid came out of the cartridge end. Re-attach and it vapes much better.

Since I started this thread and have received so many good suggestions, plus watching Spikey's video, I've found that any number of reasons can cause poor throat hits. Sometimes there's not enough liquid, sometimes the battery needs to be charged, sometimes I need to clean out the atomizer and strange, but sometimes when I just let the e-cig sit for a while after what seems to be a bad hit, it works well.

So all in all, I'm learning.

 

[NicoNut]

Dum...I hope you are not telling her to get rid of the cap in the cartridge that holds the filler and liquid?? That's there for a reason. I believe what you are telling her will give her a mouth full of liquid nic.

Another thing, experienced people know to look at the join date, not post count. Post count means absolutely nothing!