Throat hit "How To" guide

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RjG

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There are several things at work, for the throat hit... all / any combinations give a very similar sensation.

1 - heat. Heat is a direct function of the atomizer you have. 510s 410s m201 have lower resistance coil. They run HOTTER than 801, 901, 701 etc
The hotter vapor hits your throat much harder than the cooler variety.
* some of the "mods" for sale achieve similar results with colder atomizers by applying more voltage to them

2 - vapor volume. Cigars, and some of the larger atomizers (pens/pipes), and DRIPPING, give a much thicker vape. The much thicker hit gives you a throat hit here too, from the volume of nicotine hitting your throat, even if it's a colder atomizer. Carts that are small, and atomizer/cart design play into this - some models don't wick well, or only wick well at the beginning, and the "HIT" drops off rapidly.

3 - liquid The FORMULATION of the liquid has a huge factor as well. Even within the same brand of liquid, you will find a night and day difference between different flavors on how hard they hit. RY4 is a popular one with a built-in "hit".

4 - air volume The harder you suck on it, the less hit you'll get. This is a tough one for newbies, to learn how to vape, since you're used to slurping down a cigarette.
A cigarette will give you unlimited hit - you can suck for 20 seconds and the smoke just keeps coming. An e-cig is opposite. A gentle drag will create a thicker vapor, and a hard drag will create a much thinner vapor.
The longer you drag on an e-cig, the thinner it gets, also opposite to a cigarette.
Some models of e-cig "enforce" this by designing limited air-flow into themselves, so they are really hard to draw on. Others just let you self-regulate by drawing less.

5 - nic strength. This one is last, because it's a bit subjective.
36mg will, without a doubt, hit you harder than 16mg. This is a more of a combination throat/drug hit though... the kind you need to get, so you're not "craving" right after.
When I quit smoking, I got 18mg liquid - and still couldn't get off the cigs. I was kinda disappointed, really. BUT - 24mg was enough to satisfy me enough to quit for good. No cigs at all since then. (this was more of a "cravings" requirement than a "throat hit" thing though)

That's me though.... lots of people need 36mg for the initial "hit" - to quit.
Others are quite happy with lower NIC right from the start. Buying an e-cig with a higher "vapor volume" will give you more nic, letting you get by with a lower mg liquid too, it terms of "cravings"

All of these factors create throat hit on their own, and in combination with each other. For example, you will achieve a much bigger throat hit with a 510/RY4/18mg than 901/Strawberry/24mg.

These factors are why you find such varied and conflicting opinions all over the forum.... everyone's experience is different, with all the combinations available.
 

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I thought I was getting a good throat hit with 36mg with the 510. Then I bought a Little Chuck and it has much better throat hit.

I read where you can add a little Enclear 190 proof to you liquid for a better throat hit. So I got brave and added a drop to my atmoizer. I actually got a buzz from this. I would not recommend doing this. It probably will kill my atomizer.
 

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I thought I was getting a good throat hit with 36mg with the 510. Then I bought a Little Chuck and it has much better throat hit.

I read where you can add a little Enclear 190 proof to you liquid for a better throat hit. So I got brave and added a drop to my atmoizer. I actually got a buzz from this. I would not recommend doing this. It probably will kill my atomizer.

Some are saying that the alcohol burns up so fast on the atty that it's improbable that we're getting a buzz on the Everclear. I don't know if that's true or not but I catch a quick buzz also. It's possible that the Everclear is heating the atty so hot that it's burning off residual nicotine, ergo, a buzz.

I use Everclear just prior to doing a controlled burn-off to clean the atty. I'm quickly reminded of whatever flavor liquid I've used since the last cleaning 'cause I can taste it. =)
 

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A couple weeks ago I read somewhere (sorry can't remember so can't link) about alcohol without liquid or AWOl devices. Supposedly, the alcohol is basically vaped like our e-liquid. Because the alcohol is entering the bloodstream immediately through the lungs, the portion of blood that absorbs it has a very high alcohol content and so you can feel the effects. However, since it is such a low dose, the buzz also fades very quickly and does not give you a hangover or anything.

That's just what I read somewhere and I've not tried it myself, so take it for what it's worth.

FYI: Apparently a bunch of states have outlawed alcohol vaporizers
en_wikipedia_org/wiki/Alcohol_without_liquid (Sorry too new to post links)
 

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Hi RjG,
Maybe you or someone else can help me.

I bought a KR808 with mostly 24mg juice. I smoke between one pack to a pack and a half a day of full flavored Marbys.

I thought 24's would be a good place to start but they choke the heck out of me. I've tried 18's, still too harsh. 16's, still too harsh and I don't think enough nic. 12's, like sucking air but can still feel the harshness.

At the moment I am vaping RY4 16 mgs for the most part but I can't vape much because my throat always feels like it is being seered. You said RY4 is made with a built in "hit" but I have to admit that to date I like the flavor the best from the others I have tried. Is there a particular seller that offers RY4 that maybe doesn't have as much of a hit? I did buy the pre-filled carts. Would buying just the liquid be a smoother hit.

I guess what I am really asking (after all my rambling) is how do I get a smoother throat hit? I like a heavy vapor and I get a throat hit from my Marbys that chokes most people I know because they are full flavored but this vaping stuff is so harsh I can't handle it.

Would I be better off with VG? Is that a smoother throat hit? The problem is I was reading about the possibility of VG being rather dangerous when vaped so I have some concerns there.

I want to get on with my vaping and I just haven't been able to. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Oh, I have bought from two different suppliers and still have the same problems.
 

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Hi RjG,
Maybe you or someone else can help me.

I bought a KR808 with mostly 24mg juice. I smoke between one pack to a pack and a half a day of full flavored Marbys.

I thought 24's would be a good place to start but they choke the heck out of me. I've tried 18's, still too harsh. 16's, still too harsh and I don't think enough nic. 12's, like sucking air but can still feel the harshness.

At the moment I am vaping RY4 16 mgs for the most part but I can't vape much because my throat always feels like it is being seered. You said RY4 is made with a built in "hit" but I have to admit that to date I like the flavor the best from the others I have tried. Is there a particular seller that offers RY4 that maybe doesn't have as much of a hit? I did buy the pre-filled carts. Would buying just the liquid be a smoother hit.

I guess what I am really asking (after all my rambling) is how do I get a smoother throat hit? I like a heavy vapor and I get a throat hit from my Marbys that chokes most people I know because they are full flavored but this vaping stuff is so harsh I can't handle it.

Would I be better off with VG? Is that a smoother throat hit? The problem is I was reading about the possibility of VG being rather dangerous when vaped so I have some concerns there.

I want to get on with my vaping and I just haven't been able to. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Oh, I have bought from two different suppliers and still have the same problems.

I'm vaping NHaler RY4 High Voltage 12 mg right now and it's a winner in my book! Tons of vapor (must have some VG in it) and a very smooth flavor and medium TH. I have to switch to low mg at night or I won't sleep 'til morning. :p You can fill your own cartomizers with juice several times, and even wash them out in between.

For pre-filled cartos I find that Vapor4Life are much more flavorful and smoother...
 

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I'm vaping NHaler RY4 High Voltage 12 mg right now and it's a winner in my book! Tons of vapor (must have some VG in it) and a very smooth flavor and medium TH. I have to switch to low mg at night or I won't sleep 'til morning. :p You can fill your own cartomizers with juice several times, and even wash them out in between.

For pre-filled cartos I find that Vapor4Life are much more flavorful and smoother...

Thanks for answering bluesuede. I have read a ton but still can't figure out if it is the KR, the PG, the nic or what. I just know I can't vape what I have and I can't afford to keep wasting my money without some idea of which direction to take.
 

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this guide is great! and to skydragon i know what your saying to be true i was vaping PG and my throat was horribly scratchy and definately hurt i switched to a VG based Marl-bro from midwest vapor in 26mg and i dont have that problem anymore.. the VG give you alot thicker vapor and a bit of a sweet taste and it hits like a cross between a marlb light and red. i was a smoker for 15 years and i was able to put them down after switching to VG.
 

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this guide is great! and to skydragon i know what your saying to be true i was vaping PG and my throat was horribly scratchy and definately hurt i switched to a VG based Marl-bro from midwest vapor in 26mg and i dont have that problem anymore.. the VG give you alot thicker vapor and a bit of a sweet taste and it hits like a cross between a marlb light and red. i was a smoker for 15 years and i was able to put them down after switching to VG.

Hi Paulys,
Maybe that is what I will have to do. As I stated, it does concern me that there seem to be more hazards to VG but I don't know what else to do. Thanks.
 

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It is probably the level of pg my brother and step-father cannot vape pg juice and neither can I. I know exactly what you are talking about it is harsh. It is most likely the pg. I found this out after spending lots of money on all kinds of juice. Although I have to say 100% Vg is just too smooth for me feels like nothin but lots of vapor. I personally prefer 80% Vg and 20% pg. It sounds like you would prefer that as well. From what u describe. The problem is most places do not sell this blend by default. But several places when you order will have a special instructions section, where you can tell them to make this custom blend and they will do it. Places I've done this with are vaporrenew only $7.50 for a 30ml bottle and probably like a hunderd different flavors; I'd highly recomend them, and american liquid store more expensive but there cumstomer service is second to none. Different nicotine lvls didn't affect the throat hit for me very much at all but pg vs. vg did.
 
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