struggling. Up the nicotine?

[juicejunky]

On the WTA, I have some from Aroma. I don't technically need it since I was solely vaping for over a year before it came out, but bought it to see what it did. It is quite expensive, so I use it for a treat when I am as you say 'chasing something'. I drip it into the atomizer of my bottom feeder a few times for about a cigarette's worth of hits then go back to whatever regular juice is in the bottle. The effect may be psychological, but somehow it stops the chase. Before I had WTA, I kept a bottle of stronger nic (24, usually vape 12 or 18) around to accomplish the same thing.

For me 'chasing something' just requires something different as a fix and going on 2 years in November I am so far beyond even wanting a real cigarette.

If my WTA doesn't work, I hit the frig.

Maybe something like that would work for you.

 

[snatch]

Just give it some time you'll get over the cravings for analogs.

 

[DancingHeretik]

While reading your post, I got very, very thirsty. I had to stop and go get a glass of water before I continued reading.

WTA may well be the answer for you. But, might I suggest also drinking more water? For me, thirst often masks itself as a general craving and especially as hunger. When what I'm really craving is water!

Just an idea.

 

[Z_Ghost]

I was having that feeling too and was having 1 to 2 cigs a day, I got some of the WTA juice and that seems to have helped a lot.
First it helped me stop having that part of a cig right before bed time, then after a few more days it got so I did not need that one in the morning.
I do not vape it all day, just for a little bit when I first get up and maybe 10 minutes before I go to bed and just a few hits during the day.
I figure I will keep this up for a week or so then back off of it.
Also the DK-TAB-WTA taste good.
http://www.aromaejuice.com/Flavoured-Eliquid-with-Whole-Tobacco-Alkaloid-WTA_c33.htm

 

[AuBadge]

Also try holding the vapor in your mouth for a bit before inhaling it, then exhale through your nose. The nic in vapor is mostly absorbed through the mucous membrane. You might find that 24mg is plenty. If not, nothing wrong with 36mg if that's what you need. Just keep an eye on your blood pressure.

 

[Fyre904]

I think this is part of the transition for sure. Just hang in there eventually your body will not miss all that crap. I went through this also and with nothing more than a Blu starter kit to get me through. It was rough indeed and I almost gave in a number of times but I sucked the life out of the tiny Blu batteries and soon enough I was over the analogs and went on to an eGo starter kit and was very pleased. So much more over the horizon than lay behind you just press on and hang in there.

 

[LMP]

Should i go to 36mg?

Yes you should.

 

[hairball]

You're withdrawing from all the other toxins in cigs that you're addicted too. Hang in there and drink tons of water...it'll pass.

 

[zuzette]

im not convinced higher nic is right for everyone. I use 24 mg myself and I too often have a slight disatisfaction (more than slight really).

Funny enough I discovered my solution is not more nic - but switching flavors, and even using less nic at various times. oh and as of last night - wta.

Last night I happily sat through a three hour movie with only 12 mg of nic - only half of that was wta. I dont know that the wta had as much to do with it as less nic.

I have noticed that i get plenty of buzz off the 24 - so I cant really be needing or missing nic.
in fact - it can be too much an leave me feeling off. more of the same stuff does not help but one might be inclined to think more would be the way to go. Instead I cut back to 18 or 12 sometimes in the day and the dissatisfaction went away. It might be that we perceive as dissatisfaction is really nic induced anxiety.

Give less a try sometimes and just observe what happens.

 

[Cyrene]

I use 24mg of nic, and it's not the level of nic that finally satisfied me either.

It was the flavor. Once I found a flavor I liked, I was able to trash the analogs.
But everyone has their own pace - I smoked 4-5 a day for a couple weeks before
finally putting them down, and I did have some days where the cravings were a bit
horrid even vaping, but I was able to barrel through them. Now, a little over a month
of no analogs, and the cravings are almost completely gone. But it will be different
for everyone.

 

[whanso1]

So another two weeks and the pattern repeated. Not surprising since I didn't really change anything. My two week barrier.

Details: Friday was a bad work day, lots of stress and what not. Couldn't vape enough and had that itch, I summed it up as stress. Saturday I felt edgy and had the itch, I just fought it off; summed it up as a crummy, groggy day. I did realize the itch was returning during this... getting stronger. Today, Sunday, was feeling a need to do something about it. Few hours after waking up, after breakfast, lunch cooking..... I loaded up 24mg, Vaped it hard.. And tried to relax... Like 3ml in less than an hour. Felt no real change, maybe a faint Haziness, nothing else. Itch still there, still on edge. So I ordered some 36mg juice. Then was about to order some wta juice, then decided I would try snus instead, questions about that towards end.
So, expecting an experiment was due (ok I took the easy road and fell off the wagon), I lit up a smoke.

So the weird thing is that lately when I wake up in the morning I feel no real need/desire to vape, feel like I don't need it. However with the fear of having serious urge or need later, I get going on the juice.... Which I seem to be able to do all day at whatever pace.... If I go several hours I get a twitch and will either vape like mad, or will stealth vape a few puffs... Either way I am then good to go for a while. (I think it is more the need to get away from whatever situation, place, people or whatever than a need to get nicotine per say..... But I haven't attempted giving up the vaping.... I view it as a crutch. But the crutch is a bit short and not completely supportive for me. Though I logically understand that I am addicted to nicotine.). I certainly prefer to vape a lot, being in a situation where vaping is not an option is not enjoyable at all. But whatever I am rambling and just ignore that last bit. I like vaping and it has cut the stinkies from 40/day to one every two weeks.... Brilliant.

So the one cigarette took the edge off, shortly after that one smoke I was feeling okay. Edge gone, no real feelings except regret and disappointment of that one smoke.... But I digress. If I go the rest of my life at two cigs a month.... Almost perfect. But that edginess sure would be nice to get rid of. (Holy cow ECF logged me out and lost my post when I went to preview, rewriting now). (I just ordered some wta juice). That stinky itself wasn't enjoyable by the way, but after affects were/are now... Calm.

Question:
Swedish snus is what I want right? Like generals from a smoke shop..... Not camel snus from 7-eleven?

I have always been anti dipping and chewing, so using snus won't be real welcome to me, but I will give it a go anyway. I just want off the stinkies completely... Without the two week twitch. Good news is I believe I am good to go for a while before the twitch returns.