Snow Wolf 200w With Temp Control

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I've been having a similar problem with the SW 200, maybe. I'm using it with the uwell Crown and a .25 SS coil. When I start it up, it has it in temp mode in that the temperature starts to go up as I press it. Shouldn't it just show a blank next to the "F" if it is in non-temp mode? Or it is because the Crown is using SS and not Kanthal that it is trying to run it in temp mode?

Yes, SS coil can technically be temp controlled so it is confusing it, just run in wattage/power mode...should be fine.
 

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From what I can see, there is no way to force wattage mode on the SW 200 -- it is all done automatically. I did some more searching and the only way to fix this is to put on a kanthal tank, say it is a new coil, then switch back to the SS Crown and say it is not a new coil. I did this and it seemed to work -- staying in wattage mode. If there is a way to manually force watt mode on the SW 200 beyond doing what I did, let me know.
 
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From what I can see, there is no way to force wattage mode on the SW 200 -- it is all done automatically. I did some more searching and the only way to fix this is to put on a kanthal tank, say it is a new coil, then switch back to the SS Crown and say it is not a new coil. I did this and it seemed to work -- staying in wattage mode. If there is a way to manually force watt mode on the SW 200 beyond doing what I did, let me know.

Interesting, first I heard of that, but thanks for sharing. I was thinking about ordering a SW SE.
 

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From the manual:

AUTO-DETECT FEATURE (temp control mode versus wattage mode)
The SnowWolf 200W auto-detects nickel or kanthal wire coils and fires each in the appropriate mode — temperature control mode for nickel and wattage mode for kanthal. The temperature setting will remain on the screen for kanthal builds until the firing button is activated. Then the temperature will vanish, indicating that firing is in wattage mode.

That's how mine works. If I'm running a nickel-coiled tank, take it off and put on a kanthal-coiled tank, the SnowWolf may or may not ask me if it's a new coil. If it does I say yes. If it doesn't ask, the correct resistance for the new coil is displayed anyway. Then I adjust the wattage down---I run TC on the SnowWolf at 400°F and 40 watts, while most of my Kanthal-built tanks run from 20-35 watts---and fire. During the first couple seconds of firing, the SnowWolf acts like it's still in TC mode, showing momentarily-lowered temps and wattages. Then it senses the kanthal and switches over to wattage mode, blanking out the temperature during firing, and providing full selected wattage.

When going back to a nickel-built tank, the switchover of modes has no delay: My SnowWolf always asks if the coil is new. I say yes, it senses the nickel coil, shows the correct resistance, and goes into TC mode immediately upon firing. On rare occasions, the SnowWolf doesn't ask if the coil is new. Then I have to disconnect the atty/tank by unscrewing it a turn or two and reconnect, after which the new coil question comes up.

I can imagine that it's a bit confusing for some people that the selected temperature remains visible on-screen when the display is active in either mode. When firing in wattage mode, however, the temp blanks out---that's how you know it's running straight watts---while when firing in temperature mode, the display shows the set temperature and varying wattages.
 
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Oh I fully understand how it's suppose-to work, sometimes it even does it correctly.
But mine is attempting to detect temperature while firing and it actively updates it, it shows 130-159 Fahrenheit, going up and down as it fires.
Sometimes or if I fiddle with it, temp will go blank when firing like it should. Lowest temp you can set is something like 212 Fahrenheit
 

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The SnowWolf 200W auto-detects nickel or kanthal wire coils and fires each in the appropriate mode — temperature control mode for nickel and wattage mode for kanthal. The temperature setting will remain on the screen for kanthal builds until the firing button is activated. Then the temperature will vanish, indicating that firing is in wattage mode.

Yes, that is how it works for me, which is great for Ni and Kanthal. However, when using my Crown with the SS coils, it goes into temp control mode and I really want just wattage mode. The only way I have figured out how to get this to work is to put on a kanthal build, indicate it is a new coil, and then switch back to the Crown. This seems to trick the SW into thinking it is still running Kanthal, even though I have SS on it.

Using SS with temp control isn't bad, it's just not a smooth vape because of ramp up to the temperature and wattage. For the Crown, I just want it to fire at the wattage I have set.

I definitely agree with @Rymesis -- this thing is definitely quirky at times.
 
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I can't say it's not doing it's job though, with a proper build on a RDA or RTA it still seems to hit fine.

A Heatvape Invader Mini does the same thing, I fought with my old one all the time to try to keep it out of temp mode,
Or in temp mode, depending if I had nickel or not. I definitely fired nickel on power mode on the Invade Mini a few times though from it.

I -can- say the SW200 does identify nickel fine, but I'm a bit miffed about it turning premade nickel coils black and scorching them.
It nearly always switches back to TC mode after a sleep though, thinking about it, it may actually be a safety feature,
So when it leaves sleep, it doesn't know if it's nickel or not, so it fires as if it is just to be sure.

Edit: The SW200 -does- do a much better job and only takes a minute or so of fuss usually to make it realize it's error to go into power mode, the Invader Mini could be a 5-10 minute fight that I didn't always win.
 

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Yes, that is how it works for me, which is great for Ni and Kanthal. However, when using my Crown with the SS coils, it goes into temp control mode and I really want just wattage mode. The only way I have figured out how to get this to work is to put on a kanthal build, indicate it is a new coil, and then switch back to the Crown. This seems to trick the SW into thinking it is still running Kanthal, even though I have SS on it.

Using SS with temp control isn't bad, it's just not a smooth vape because of ramp up to the temperature and wattage. For the Crown, I just want it to fire at the wattage I have set.

I definitely agree with @Rymesis -- this thing is definitely quirky at times.

Plus more and more coils wills be SS so the issue could be a real hassle over time. I think that would annoy me. I think TFV4 coils are stainless also.
 
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Yes, that is how it works for me, which is great for Ni and Kanthal. However, when using my Crown with the SS coils, it goes into temp control mode and I really want just wattage mode. The only way I have figured out how to get this to work is to put on a kanthal build, indicate it is a new coil, and then switch back to the Crown. This seems to trick the SW into thinking it is still running Kanthal, even though I have SS on it.

Using SS with temp control isn't bad, it's just not a smooth vape because of ramp up to the temperature and wattage. For the Crown, I just want it to fire at the wattage I have set.

I definitely agree with @Rymesis -- this thing is definitely quirky at times.

I wasn't challenging your experience or your understanding. My post was intended only to explain to non-owners how the SnowWolf is SUPPOSED to work. It doesn't always work like it should for me, either, although I've not been particularly bothered by that, since a re-do usually fixes the glitch.

Same with the auto-locking. I'd much prefer that the device not lock itself ever, since unlocking it involves multiple clicks and often a little wait for the logos to pass. Let the user decide when to lock the device. For some folks, the auto-lock is a deal-breaker. For me, it's just a minor inconvenience that frustrates me only occasionally (like when I pick it up after not vaping for half an hour and quick-click five times immediately, only to discover that the LAISIMO and SNOWWOLF logos haven't finished their three seconds of display, so I have to wait and then five-click again). Grrrr.
 

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Anyone having trouble with the threads on their SW? I'm noticing a lot of metal shavings in my threads and some of my attys don't screw down straight and they're really wonky, some don't even thread and just spin and I have to push em down. I know it's the mod because I can put the same atty on my sig 150 or my ipv3 and have no issues. Luckily I got a few DNA 200 mods on the way. Also have an issue where on rare occasions the fire button will stick after it's released.
 

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I know when you have a Nickel build on there and have it set to wattage mode and it goes to sleep, it will wake back up in temp mode. But if you have a Kanthal build on there it will stay in Wattage mode even after it falling asleep. At least mine does.
I dont use Temp Mode that much, but as a regular power mod, the SnowWolf is Solid!!
 

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Iv been sitting here vaping my Uwell Crown tank at 30Ws for a couple hours. At least I THOUGHT I was.. Just held the firing button to watch how the wattage goes down to around 3W after sitting for a minute than ramps back up to what you have it set on(mine being 30) and i noticed it was working in temp mode! My temp was already set at 420F and tbh I didnt even notice any change until I realized it was in temp mode then switched it over to watts and took a hit(it seemed stronger) but the hits after that felt like they were the whole time! BTW it never went into standby mode, which is when it would usually default back into temp mode if i hade a Nickel coil on it.. With Nickel i can switch it to watts and it does not go into back into temp mode on its own until it falls asleep and i 5click wake it up, so idk why its treating SS differently?
 

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Iv been sitting here vaping my Uwell Crown tank at 30Ws for a couple hours. At least I THOUGHT I was.. Just held the firing button to watch how the wattage goes down to around 3W after sitting for a minute than ramps back up to what you have it set on(mine being 30) and i noticed it was working in temp mode! My temp was already set at 420F and tbh I didnt even notice any change until I realized it was in temp mode then switched it over to watts and took a hit(it seemed stronger) but the hits after that felt like they were the whole time! BTW it never went into standby mode, which is when it would usually default back into temp mode if i hade a Nickel coil on it.. With Nickel i can switch it to watts and it does not go into back into temp mode on its own until it falls asleep and i 5click wake it up, so idk why its treating SS differently?

Not sure I understand. I have found no way to manually force a nickel build to use wattage mode - the SW automatically detects and switches to nickel mode automatically. What are you going to "switch" it to watts mode?

As for the SS coil - thats a problem I and others have posted on. The SW thinks it is like nickel and tries to run it in temp mode. Only way I figured out how to fix this is to put on a kanthal build, say its a new tank, and then switch back to the SS to confuse the mod

BTW - on my device, just pressing the fire button doesn't necessarilly do the auto switch. I found that for me, when I initially press the fire, it shows temp mode for everything and it isn't until I take a draw that it changes. No idea if that is what its supposed to do, but that's how mine works. Kind of odd.
 
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