Snow Wolf 200w With Temp Control

[BillLee3]

I did a cotton burn test and my Snow Wolf isn't burning the cotton until at least 480°F - which is higher than my ipv4 by 60-70°F. On the ipv4 I had been using 450°F / 30J with the Kanger Plus. So, I'm adding 70°F on the Snow Wolf (i.e. 520°F). The Snow Wolf is also MUCH more aggressive about hitting whatever you're setting for wattage (or Joules on ipv4) so I've lowered mine to 20-25W and it's working MUCH better than it did. Don't know if it's actually doing a lot in the way of temperature protection, but at least i CAN vape on it.

Still have a certain amount of issues with the standby feature changing things and when if I turn off the unit and immediately turn it back on it appears to reset the base resistance to whatever the hot coil is at, but I'm starting to figure out the quarks of the unit......

 

[Juvecoop]

I did a cotton burn test and my Snow Wolf isn't burning the cotton until at least 480°F - which is higher than my IPV4 by 60-70°F. On the IPV4 I had been using 450°F / 30J with the Kanger Plus. So, I'm adding 70°F on the Snow Wolf (i.e. 520°F). The Snow Wolf is also MUCH more aggressive about hitting whatever you're setting for wattage (or Joules on IPV4) so I've lowered mine to 20-25W and it's working MUCH better than it did. Don't know if it's actually doing a lot in the way of temperature protection, but at least i CAN vape on it.

Still have a certain amount of issues with the standby feature changing things and when if I turn off the unit and immediately turn it back on it appears to reset the base resistance to whatever the hot coil is at, but I'm starting to figure out the quarks of the unit......

Please continue to post about these quarks and how you adjusted them. If i understand correctly should it not be reading that way since we are unable to lock in the resistance? It shows that it actually reading the current resistance of the coil.

 

[BillLee3]

Well, it SHOULD read the current resistance of the coil, but it should NOT reset the base resistance to match it. It should instead assume I have the same coil with the same base unless it asks me (which it's not doing).

Say the actual base resistance is 0.08 and I use the device and the resistance goes up to 0.22 thinking that's where it should start cutting wattage to meet my temperature limit. If I turn off the unit it obviously starts cooling immediately, but if I turn it back on rather quickly the resistance might still be at 0.13. If it resets so that's the base then to meet the temperature I have set the unit will now start cutting wattage at something closer to 0.25, which may be 50°F or more higher than it had previously been cutting wattage - which results in dry hits or burnt cotton.

I don't KNOW this is what is happening, but in watching the ohms and wattage and stuff it sure appears to be.

 

[Juvecoop]

Well, it SHOULD read the current resistance of the coil, but it should NOT reset the base resistance to match it. It should instead assume I have the same coil with the same base unless it asks me (which it's not doing).

Say the actual base resistance is 0.08 and I use the device and the resistance goes up to 0.22 thinking that's where it should start cutting wattage to meet my temperature limit. If I turn off the unit it obviously starts cooling immediately, but if I turn it back on rather quickly the resistance might still be at 0.13. If it resets so that's the base then to meet the temperature I have set the unit will now start cutting wattage at something closer to 0.25, which may be 50°F or more higher than it had previously been cutting wattage - which results in dry hits or burnt cotton.

I don't KNOW this is what is happening, but in watching the ohms and wattage and stuff it sure appears to be.

Gotach, ill have a look at mine and see what its doing.

 

[cjpeltz]

I have been using my Snow Wolf 200 all today. Overall, it's been good, but a few quirks.

- The automatic shutoff is kind of a nuisance -- I will probably get used to it, but really wish they didn't have that "feature".
- Really don't like how close they put the up and down buttons to the fire button. I keep pushing the up one by mistake and change watts (any way to lock it so I can fire it but not change wattage)
- Ohm reading seems to be WAY off - e.g., its reading .7 for the .3 Nautilus Ni coils. Anyone else have that same issue?

(CORRECTION: IT READS .7 AT REST, BUT WHEN I PRESS THE BUTTON, GOES TO .4 OR SO)

 

[Juvecoop]

I have been using my Snow Wolf 200 all today. Overall, it's been good, but a few quirks.

- The automatic shutoff is kind of a nuisance -- I will probably get used to it, but really wish they didn't have that "feature".
- Really don't like how close they put the up and down buttons to the fire button. I keep pushing the up one by mistake and change watts (any way to lock it so I can fire it but not change wattage)
- Ohm reading seems to be WAY off - e.g., its reading .7 for the .3 Nautilus Ni coils. Anyone else have that same issue?

(CORRECTION: IT READS .7 AT REST, BUT WHEN I PRESS THE BUTTON, GOES TO .4 OR SO)

Just put in my Ni coils in my nautilus. Mine jumps all over the place from .9 to .4 to .8 to .5. I don't know what's going on

 

[cjpeltz]

Yep I will say that the vape is not that great with the Nautilus. But with my SMOK TCT, it was great.

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[gel drops]

SMOK TCT is all that I have used so far on it,40 W at 430 F.. seems to be perfect for my vaping needs.I still have some learning to do with the temperature settings, but overall I'm liking this mod.

 

[Juvecoop]

Yep I will say that the vape is not that great with the Nautilus. But with my SMOK TCT, it was great.

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Its not bad, its definitely better flavour then the kanthal coil for sure. i guess i have to fiddle around with the temp more on the SW and see.

 

[SteveAdams86]

OK iv read this entire thread. I have just one question, can the screen be turned off?

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[billherbst]

OK iv read this entire thread. I have just one question, can the screen be turned off?

Not by the user.

From the manual: When device is not in use, the screen will darken after 20 seconds. After 30 seconds the display will turn off and the device will enter standby mode. After 30 minutes in standby mode, device will automatically lock. Press the fire button 5 times in 3 seconds consecutively anytime during standby mode to turn off the device. “SYSTEM OFF” will then read on the display. Press any button to wake up the system.

To unlock, press the fire button five times in three seconds.

If your question pertains to vaping in "stealth mode," no, the SnowWolf doesn't allow that. The screen is always illuminated during vaping.

 

[Completely Average]

- Ohm reading seems to be WAY off - e.g., its reading .7 for the .3 Nautilus Ni coils. Anyone else have that same issue?

(CORRECTION: IT READS .7 AT REST, BUT WHEN I PRESS THE BUTTON, GOES TO .4 OR SO)

This is normal. It's going to display the resistance when you last let off the fire button, so if you take a puff and the resistance increases to .7ohms then it's going to display .7ohms until you press the fire button again. If you quickly click the fire button it will reset the display to the current resistance.

What temperature are you using with your Nautilus coils? After a lot of playing around with them I find that they work quite well at 460F-465F and 21 watts. Push the watts higher and it starts cutting the power because the coil is overheating, push the temperature higher and it starts tasting like it's burning the juice. This is with a clear 60VG/40PG juice so YMMV on that.

 

[cjpeltz]

Ok. Just odd as my DNA 40 stays Constant. My star pro will be here soon so I will try it with that tank.

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[Completely Average]

Ok. Just odd as my DNA 40 stays Constant. My star pro will be here soon so I will try it with that tank.

Your DNA stays constant because you lock in the atomizer resistance. The SnowWolf reads the resistance on the fly and doesn't lock it in the same way, so the display simply shows you the last resistance that it read. It doesn't affect anything, the instant you press the fire button it re-reads the resistance and displays that.

 

[cjpeltz]

Ok. But when I press the fire button, it doesn't display the same resistance. And I don't lock anything in with the DNA.

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[AtmizrOpin]

K

Ok. But when I press the fire button, it doesn't display the same resistance. And I don't lock anything in with the DNA.

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Do you understand how temperature control works? For every incremental increase or decrease of resistance results in an increase or decrease of power from the board to the coil. The DNA 40 does this by taking a baseline resistance reading from the moment you screw on a temp control atty and uses that initial reading for its temperature coefficient of resistance curve. The snowwolf does not use the initial cold atty resistance reading. It just picks up a new resistance reading from whenever the fire button is pressed whether the atty is hot warm or cold, on the fly. It takes that reading then finds where it fits on the TCR curve and bingo bango finds the correct power to apply to get you on your way to your set temp. Take a nickel coil, put it on your DNA 40, go into your temp setting and set it to off. Put it to about 10 watts and hit the fire button, watch what happens to the resistance reading. That's how the snowwolf works in temp control, on the fly.

 

[Tat2man]

Not by the user.

From the manual: When device is not in use, the screen will darken after 20 seconds. After 30 seconds the display will turn off and the device will enter standby mode. After 30 minutes in standby mode, device will automatically lock. Press the fire button 5 times in 3 seconds consecutively anytime during standby mode to turn off the device. “SYSTEM OFF” will then read on the display. Press any button to wake up the system.

To unlock, press the fire button five times in three seconds.

If your question pertains to vaping in "stealth mode," no, the SnowWolf doesn't allow that. The screen is always illuminated during vaping.

I have tried several times to get mine to go into "SYSTEM OFF" I have yet to get it to do so.

 

[Denverizzles]

Does any one have issues with the chip switching from temp to kanthal mode? There are times when i'll be in temp mode and then for some reason it will switch to kanthal mode.

It happens with a full battery, but most of the time it'll be when the battery is mid-low.

When i notice it, i'll switch it back to temp mode, but it'll get stuck on kanthal. usually a power on/off will fix the issue, but it's still frustrating.

other than this issue, the mod has been great, but if this is a common thing, I'd like some answers!!!

thanks

 

[TheotherSteveS]

K

Do you understand how temperature control works? For every incremental increase or decrease of resistance results in an increase or decrease of power from the board to the coil. The DNA 40 does this by taking a baseline resistance reading from the moment you screw on a temp control atty and uses that initial reading for its temperature coefficient of resistance curve. The snowwolf does not use the initial cold atty resistance reading. It just picks up a new resistance reading from whenever the fire button is pressed whether the atty is hot warm or cold, on the fly. It takes that reading then finds where it fits on the TCR curve and bingo bango finds the correct power to apply to get you on your way to your set temp. Take a nickel coil, put it on your DNA 40, go into your temp setting and set it to off. Put it to about 10 watts and hit the fire button, watch what happens to the resistance reading. That's how the snowwolf works in temp control, on the fly.

errr not sure that is correct!!

Unless this thing has some way of determining the temperature of the coil directly at the time you press the fire button (which is doesnt), how can it possibly just 'takes that reading then finds where it fits on the TCR curve'? The TCR is a plot of resistance change versus temperature for a given conductive wire not an absolute temperature per se. The curve used in these mods is derived with respect to a standard temperature, usually 20C. How can the mod possibly know where on the curve it sits with just a resistance reading from a random coil at some unknown temperature? See the problem?? Again, it can only work if it knows the resistance of your coil at some set reference temperature!!! In your scenario, a 0.1ohm coil at 20C would register a temp of say 20C, but a 0.2 ohm coil would report a much higher temp even though it is also at 20C...

 

[TheotherSteveS]

so I just checked the user instructions for the SW..
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ATOMIZER INSTALLATION AND DIS-ASSEMBLY:
If you remove the atomizer while the device is on and press the power button, “CHECK ATOMIZER” will be displayed. If you remove the atomizer while firing, “ATOMIZER REMOVE” will be displayed. When the device is on and you install an atomizer, “NEW COIL UP SAME DOWN” will be displayed; press the ‘–‘ button if it is the original atomizer, press the ’+’ button if a new atomizer has been installed.


NOTE: Please make sure the new atomizer is cold, otherwise the device will misread the atomizer resistance.


So it works the same as the DNA40. It read the base resistance when you put a new atty on, making sure it is at same temp as the mod. This is the base resistance I was talking about...