Sign that should be in all vape shops

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I was reading a discussion today on Face Book of a vape shop being sued because a battery exploded after being put in a pocket. Their insurance carrier got involved and they said they would most likely settle the case because challenging the case in court would take years and end up costing more than settling. The insurance carrier also informed them that they would be dropping them after the case was resolved.

Some comments from the post:

"Anyone have any luck in defending a battery incident? If so who was the attorney? This person put the mod in their pocket."

"Our case was the dude never even bought a battery from us at all but yet still tried to sue us. Cost us some money but not no where near the 480k they wanted. Only thing we paid was lawyer fees."

"We had a similar incident. We got a lawsuit letter. Guy had a battery vent in his pocket. Contacted a ambulance chasing law office. They sent us a letter. We didn't respond. The sent another letter stating they were going to file a lawsuit against out employees if they didn't hear back. We contacted an attorney he advised us to send them our insurance info. They contacted our insurance company. Insurance said they wont paying .... and we havent heard anything else from it in over a year."

"We were in litigation for 2.5 years. Luckily the insurance company covered it."

"Since then we have created a battery safety card that everyone receives and they sign a waiver stating that we went over battery safety and that they received the card. Our insurance companies don't insure batteries for product liability anymore."

"why not sell a battery that is insured HOHMTECH and chip protected."

"that’s all we sell now."


"This sign (pictured above) hangs behind our register and we make them do a waver sheet"
 

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I was reading a discussion today on Face Book of a vape shop being sued because a battery exploded after being put in a pocket. Their insurance carrier got involved and they said they would most likely settle the case because challenging the case in court would take years and end up costing more than settling.
Ambulance chasing lawyers love it when insurance companies are push-overs.

If it were my shop, I'd change the sign a bit. From, "We sell these here" to, "We have them here, if you need one, just ask, you can have one for free with any purchase". Bought in bulk, those cases cost mere pennies and offering to sell them might convey the notion that the shop is exaggerating the risks in order to profit from the sale of those cases.
 
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As how many problems have been caused by folks buying batteries with CDR's way below their needs.
My considered opinion is: Very few. It's pretty difficult to get a battery to go prompt-critical without a dead short.
 

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Lithium cells are wonderful inventions, but the public at large is used to carrying spare AA and AAA cells in their pocket or thrown bare into the glove compartment. Carbon Zinc and Alkaline are much more forgiving.

I agree that lithium cells should be sold with a case and the cell price adjusted to include the cost. Maybe the case should have a printed label inside with caution, use, and care instructions. If the user throws away the warning, at least they had the opportunity to read and understand.

The cells I get through mail order online always come in a case. Bought separately, cheap cases cost about 50 cents each, less in bulk.
 
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Lithium cells are wonderful inventions, but the public at large is used to carrying spare AA and AAA cells in their pocket or thrown bare into the glove compartment. Carbon Zinc and Alkaline are much more forgiving.

Agreed. People are used to cells that are more-or-less harmless, and tend to assume that what works for an AA works for an 18650. Then we have the idiots who argue for pulse ratings and the like and give those who don't know better the impression that any safety advice is controversial or over-the-top. And there's the fact that humans are just plain lousy at evaluating risk - if you get away with it once, or fifteen times, it's obviously perfectly safe always and forever.
 
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