Seeking noxious TH! 0mg - Low Nic Throat Hit

[the86d]

My nic keeps going up, yet the TH gets lower...

OK I have put 2+2 together and realized that Cinnamon Oil and Clove Oil are not real oils as we know them since they mix with PG just fine, and don't seem to kill my atomizers even at 10-20+%.

I am looking for a Throat Hit to knock me on my ... and use this thing less at a 0mg - 18mg dosage. I would like to drop it down to like 6mg-11mg in the final mix, yet I cannot get a noxious TH like I used to with even 11mg JC juice.

If I do a large QTY of Cinnamon Oil + some clove oil in a PG base of say 20MG it does kick. I WANT MORE!

I am not looking for Pepper Oil, but some other things I can add. I do not want to burn my lips more than Cin. Oil does.

I add a bit of PGA (75% PGA is all I can get here in Cali), and it is better.

Any suggestions?

Anyone solve this?

Good recipees?

Does PGA (or alcohol based flavorings, say Butter Rum) deteriorate the Kick Oil's (Cinn or Clove) bite?

I would prefer a lung hit over a throat hit if that makes any sense.

 

[Nikhil]

The burn is usually caused by something that irritates the skin, and I don't know of anything that will give you more of a lung hit than TH because irritants will pass the throat before the lungs. You might want to look into capsaicin, there's a thread about it here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/76543-capsaicin.html

Getting a higher % PGA probably wouldn't hurt either, and shouldn't detract from any of the oils' hit.

 

[the86d]

I just got 6 dram bottles of Cin. Oil.

I usualy use PGA in the mix, but I have just got back into it. (I bought a bunch of eJuice on a close out special, and trying again!)

Do you know if the PGA will kill the Cin. Oil kick over time (Less than 2 weeks)?

The Atomic Cinnacide I purchased, went let's just say... flatter in bite and kick from the flavor and the cinn. potency.

 

[the86d]

Okay, I have experimented a bit, and to use Lorann Cinnamon Oil for an added TH it seem that I need like >30-40% depending on other ingredients such as PGA.

I am going for an "Atomic Cinnicide" type maybe with some clove oil added.

Any help would be appreciated, I have no time to be a vendor, just trying to use up this gallon of PG, and 2 60ml bottles of 100mg while not breaking the bank!

What percentage would some see as a "less than healthier" with this eLiquid mix!?

 

[leannebug]

only thing I can add (well, ditto on) is the PGA. The juice I have purchased that was mixed with PGA had killer TH (I prefer more vapor). They were also Hxx nic, so the 2 combined could have something to do with it.

hope that helps a little?

 

[Kurt]

Walrus put out a video where he used cayenne pepper, which he soaked in PG and then used the PG. I'm not interested in that myself, but it sure created a killer TH for him! A little experimentation might give you just what you want.

 

[the86d]

His description of it was more of a burn than the typical TH, as I recall seeing that video almost a year ago.

I should watch it again...

the86d <watches it again>

I am thinking black pepper flavoring (as I have heard this is a help)... I just don't want to buy from a vendor out of the country to try that...

 

[the86d]

Just in case anyone par-ooses THIS thread in the future...

Totally Wicked sells the Diablo Loco, under decadent vapor flavoring. I was reading that a drop in 10ml will give a killer TH.

Just trying to help if anyone can't find a low-nic TH. I just bought some... we shall see. Killer Throat Hit with 0mg, or low NIC is my desire.

throat hits....

This may be my ticket!