Provari E2 error code and really hot attys plus batteries drained in 3-4 hours (not constantly vaping)

[Latif77]

Howdy Folks,
Ive got a provari. Ive had it for a few months now..maybe 4 or so. In the beginning the Provari worked perfectly. I was able to vape at 5v no problem with standard 2.2ohm attys. Then all of a sudden a couple months ago I started getting E2 errors. This has become a daily problem. I cannot vape 2.2ohm attys at 5v at all. I constanly get E2. To remedy this I have to drop the voltage. The highest I can start is 4.6v then have to drop the voltage by 0.2 every few drags until Im at 4v and not getting a good draw. My attys are extremely hot too. I have been using the same vendor (vapor kings) since I started vaping a year ago. I got some cartos at 3.5ohms. I just recently bought and tried them. I was able to vape at 5v again and was quite pleased, but these carts lasted maybe 5 days and then once again E2 maybe a day later I get the E1 error code and basically had to toss the carts. I cant imagine that so many attys and now carts are manufactured so ....ty that they will all burn out on the provari so quickly. Also, I find that the batteries drain in 3-4 hours in many instances. This is while Im at work. I still have to vape outside and am not smoking it heavily during the day...

Does anyone have any ideas on what may be going on? I have cleaned my attys with alcohol, boiled my cartos, cleaned the posts on my provari and batteries with alcohol, bought new batteries, bought tons of attys and bought carts. I just dont know what else I can do. The the safety precautions on the provari are really feeling more like a burden than a benefit. Is anyone out there dealing with the same issues?

 

[Mindfield]

Can't say I've experienced the same issues, though I haven't had my ProVari for as long as you have. Just the same, what liquid are you vaping? (What ratio of PG to VG?) What kind of atties and cartos? Generally cartos won't last more than a week before they need a thorough cleaning. Thicker liquids can expedite this.

 

[Latif77]

I use all backwoods brew. 70PG/30VG. Im using 510 standard 2.2ohm attys and 510 3.5ohm cartos.
Thanks for the feedback. I must be a special case... dont know..

 

[Mindfield]

Well, in the case of 2.2ohm atties I can kind of understand it. At 5V that's 11.3 watts it's putting out, which is pretty warm indeed. 70/30 liquid isn't too bad at all, but just keep in mind that the thicker the liquid the faster it's going to gunk up whatever it's in. Using 80/20 liquid myself I'd get 5-7 days of functional use out of a dual coil carto before it needed to be cleaned, so I don't imagine that'd be any different than an atomizer at 2.2ohms -- actually for direct dripping it's possible it might gunk up quicker because of more exposure to open air. The 3.5ohm carto is another story. that's only 7.1W at 5V which isn't much at all, but being that it's a carto, 5 days still doesn't sound unreasonable.

What method(s) do you usually use for cleaning and how often do you do it? Also, which batteries are you using?

 

[ukeman]

I can understand it... if that many watts are going through, you would have heat and E2 eventually.

the solution? short of getting a non limiting VV pv (there are a few), you need to try different attys. That's the beauty of regulated VV and the Provari.

I find SR 2.5 to 3.1 are best for me... I drip though and i'm talking attys. I use a SR dse 901 2.8 to 3.1 Ohm at anywhere from 3.7 to 4.5v to get optimal vapor/taste ... and the voltage varies depending on juice. I use 70vg/30pg for the most part.
With 2.2 Ohm SR Joye 510, i use less voltage.

have you tried Iken Cannon 801 with 510 connector? the 2.5 Ohm is killer, tons of vapor. Downside for me is little T/H and the mouth is wide... i hear there are reducing type drip tips (mouth piece) out there.

 

[ukeman]

Oh yeah, Mindfield reminds me,

attys don't last. I always read folks saying they get a month and i don't disbelieve them, but in my experience they last a week or less.... because i chain vape all day.
I like DSE 901 a personal preference, but some other may last longer; i like the vape and it doesn't seem to leak as much as others.
I buy bulk ... gotta buy bulk attys.

 

[Mindfield]

For what it's worth I've been using Gotvapes' Fluxomizer Deluxe (2.6-2.8ohm) and have taken them straight up to 6V no problem. I don't really like vaping that hot but it worked great. I tend to keep these at about 4.5-5V consistently and they vape like a madman (once properly modded anyway).

 

[ejoker]

also, check the resistance of the atty you're using. they are known to change with use, and almost never stay where they were when new. if the resistance drops, you'll have to lower the voltage to keep the limiter from giving you e2.

 

[Mindfield]

Is resistance known to drop though? My experience has mainly been that gunk tends to increase resistance because the current has more difficulty getting through all the crap.

 

[ksmith]

Yes the resistance will have a tendency to drop over time..............I've had 1.5ohm atties drop to around 1.3ohm's after a couple of weeks and not come back to the 1.5ohm even after cleaning. If you have a meter, it is always a good idea to check the resistance after an atty has been used for awhile.

If the atties are metering good, then I would suggest contacting Provape. The Provari has a 1 year warranty and they stand behind their products.

 

[jonny2hottie]

If all else fails provape has a year warranty. Email them your problem and I'm sure they'll fix it.

 

[ejoker]

Is resistance known to drop though? My experience has mainly been that gunk tends to increase resistance because the current has more difficulty getting through all the crap.

i've had coils both increase and decrease in resistance. with regular heating/cooling, the coil is constantly expanding/contracting, changing resistance. since we're talking provari here, its an easy check on the device.

i'm currently running a 1.6 (which started out at 1.8) dual coil at 4.5v.

 

[Latif77]

Ive tried boiling the cartos and flushing the atty's with 91% alcohol with a syringe. Ive read through all the posts. Thanks everyone. Some good info here. So where do you want your wattage to be? range? What interests me here is that at 4.6v 2.2ohms im at 9.61 watts. Thats good vapor, but pretty hot. It doesnt last long tho, Im lucky if I can vape at that voltage for an hour. Im done with the atty at 4.2v = 8.01 watts. That is not good vapor. Barely any vapor. And the dang atty is spitting at me. With the cartos Ive just begun trying, they work great at 5v. Plenty of vapor and as already mentioned in the posts thats 7.14 watts..
I guess Ive just gotta try other attys.. Honestly though. I am much more impressed with the vapor and flavor with a carto. I ran out....got some on the way.. so went back to attys (old cleaned ones..) and they were hot and the flavor sucked...

Im gonna give the products yall have mentioned here a try.

If anyone can comment on their desired wattage with both attys and cartos I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks again everyone.

 

[Latif77]

Just want to mention as well that the guys at Provape are great. They have helped me along the way with this issue. It just keeps coming back... and as you can see with the initial post..its been driving me nuts. now I can see that I need to make some adjustments to the resistance of the attys I need to purchase.

Thanks again everyone.

 

[Mindfield]

My "sweet spot" really depends on what I'm using and which juices I'm vaping.

For example, these Fluxomizers I'm currently using are CE2s, which have the coil mounted at the top. They produce ungodly amounts of vapor almost regardless of the voltage you're vaping at and are quite warm even at 3.7V due to the shorter distance between the coil and your mouth. For those I prefer vaping between 4 and 4.5V (using 2.6-2.8ohm Fluxes). 5V and above is just a little warm. However, the juice makes a difference, too. Some taste awesome at 3.7-4V but taste a little overdone at a higher voltage. On the other hand some juices don't really pop until you hit 4.5-5v or so. The ratio of VG and PG also make a difference here. Higher VG content means more muted flavour and throat hit, so they tend to work a lot better at higher voltages. Thinner juices heat up quicker so work better at lower voltages.

It's really trial and error for both the atty/carto and the juice if it's your first time trying one or the other (or both).

 

[KTaylor]

I'm using boges at either 3.0ohm or 2.0ohm. I run the 3ohm at 4.5 to 5v and have no problems. If I run the 2ohm I have to go down below 4v. I did have an atty give me the E2 error, a 3ohm. What I noticed is that if I filled it a little to much and kind of flooded the coil I would get the reading. If I blew it out, let the provari take a break for a minute or two and then screwed it back on, error went away. Must have been the one carto though cause the other 6 I'm running have not had any issues. I have a boge 3ohm that I've been running Boba's (100% VG) in for almost two weeks, and it's still going strong.

 

[Latif77]

Thanks for the feedback Mindfield and KT. I really appreciate it. Have a good evening!