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Ploom - Website reveals more info

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CJsKee

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From website:


How long does a Ploom Pod last?
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A Ploom Pod usually lasts from five to ten minutes, but like chewing gum it is up to the you to determine when the flavor is gone. There is no signal or "end" when using your Ploom Pod

Edit: 12x 10 minutes = 2 hours, so 6$ every 2 hours is not cheap, more expensive than regular cigarettes.
This seems like it could get expensive, however if you can refill em with e-liquid then it wouldn't be too bad.


Ahhh, I see what you're saying now blade... Yeah, too expensive for me!
 

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I think the key here is lies in their use of PG. I think it is generally accepted that vaporizing is much less harmful than smoking. There have been several studies on this, I believe, although most have been done focusing on the medical cannabis rather than tobacco but the same principles apply.

Vaporizing devices are readily available, legal, and without the controversy we are experiencing with e-cigs. This is likely due to the portability of the devices, similarity in appearance to analogs, but mostly the introduction of inhaling PG or VG as a base for the nicotine.

This device uses actual tobacco as well as PG. This blurs the line between the e-cig and the devices that have been on the market without scrutiny for years prior to the e-cig's invention. While the Ploom device may not be a cheaper alternative it is one that could help the greater cause and show that e-cigs are very much a safer alternative to traditional tobacco cigarettes in the public eye.

Its easier to get to C from B than it is to get to C from A, so to speak.
 

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It does look cool but definitely seems like it would get way to expensive if not refillable.
From what's on the site that others have shown that it is $6/12 pods and each pod lasts 5 - 10 minutes then figure even if I went back to my smoking habits of 2 cigs(pods)/hour minimum then thats 12 pods every 6 hours which for me in a normal days length would mean 36 pods/day which equals $18/day. No thanks.
 

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Since it releases butane to heat the atomizer, wouldn't you also be inhaling butane? I have no idea about the toxicity of butane gas in the lungs, but I'd bet the farm its worse for your body than the battery e-cigs we all use right now. If it could be proven to me that we don't actually ingest any butane AND we could refill this thing with our own e-liquid then I bet it could actually be better than a big battery mod because the potential energy in the butane plus the ability to easily refill it could make it the new prime e-cig.
 

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concept is nice but for 39 bucks tells me it might be cheaply made and then having the cost of 50 cents per pod is a bit expensive. Now if they did 20 pods per 6 bucks then that would equal a pack of smokes which wouldn't be to bad.... and around here where I am now cigarettes are about to go up to 8 bucks per pack.

so with a possibility of being cheaply made plus butane plus 6 bucks for a pack of 12 equals disaster waiting to happen with a mix of going broke. No thanks Ill stick with my TW eliquid and GGT and slim and my 510 attie... at least I know when I pick it up to get my nicotine fix its going to taste good and get a great hit of nicotine at the same time.
 
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The cost of the original Ruyan e cigarette was over $200, and the cartridges were many times the cost of current cartridges. Although the pods may seem expensive at the moment, if the idea catches, they will quickly be copied and mass produced. Copycat versions of this concept will drive the prices down to what we now see in e cigarettes.
 
It's mind-numbing to me that with all the crispy people who showed up at the little fetes to sample this whiz-bang thing, apparently none of them is an e-cig user/ECF who can make any kind of report to us. I think Nico of ECF showed up but his report was kinda sparse... I'd think there'd be dozens reporting in.. Where are they??? Did they swear a blood oath not to pocket one and disassemble it for our mad modding purpuses? WTH? Can there be that many people assembled in a room who have not heard of the ECF? I signed up too, but then never heard back. Did they go through the list then strike the name of everyone who was an ECF member?

Gah.

My initial reaction (other than suspense and being impressed with their marketing) is that it is way too expensive as well, and how isn't the FDA after them as well?
 

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I don't know why they would care if we are ECF members. People on here are always looking for something new. From what I could see on the website and at Facebook, all of the events seem to be in San Francisco. How many members here are from there? I did get added to the list, but I have not received a password yet. My understanding was that it would go on sale November 19, and that is still almost a week away.
 

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Since it releases butane to heat the atomizer, wouldn't you also be inhaling butane? I have no idea about the toxicity of butane gas in the lungs, but I'd bet the farm its worse for your body than the battery e-cigs we all use right now. If it could be proven to me that we don't actually ingest any butane AND we could refill this thing with our own e-liquid then I bet it could actually be better than a big battery mod because the potential energy in the butane plus the ability to easily refill it could make it the new prime e-cig.

Read up about the Iolite, we've been over this many times with that device. The catalytic reaction used in butane powered devices exhausts only Carbon Dioxide and water.
 

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Read up about the Iolite, we've been over this many times with that device. The catalytic reaction used in butane powered devices exhausts only Carbon Dioxide and water.

Assuming that the catalytic reaction is a perfect imitation of complete combustion so no carbon monoxide is produced. Also, still with the global warming/climate change fanatics everywhere, emitting CO2 would just be bad marketing. But where does this exhaust go, in our lungs or in the air? If we inhale that, it's already worse than the e-cigarettes we have today.
 

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As its still not released there is no third party info available for this device, but the similar Iolite has been tested many times by third parties and it has been proven to be 100% safe.

You inhale less Carbon Monoxide than you do standing next to traffic or lighting a gas stove. We are talking minute amounts as they are ignited. These exhausts are considered safe by every health authority in the world even if you are sucking directly on it when you light it which is pretty unlikely.

When these ploom devices hit the street we will know more about how well they work, third parties will get a chance to test them like they have the Iolite and we will know what the deal is.

I disagree about the CO2 marketing thing. Millions of catalytic powered gas tools such as soldering irons are sold every year. Lithium battery waste in ecigs is much more of an issue to overcome in marketing perspectives.
 
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