Organic USP Vegetable Glycerin VG Base?

[mhertz]

I understand you want organic, fine, but allergen properties or not, of used feedstock should be irrelevant in only residual amounts(or entirely free from them)... Almost every toothpaste you use will have glycerin in it from unknown feedstock too, btw

Palm VG is normally made from the palm kernel and rarely the fruit I believe...

 

[vapesmooth123]

^ true but what I quoted from Essentials Depot in Post #16, I think if you're giving bottles to friends or selling etc, then I would stick to Palm based just to be safe. I mean ED sells TONS of VG, so for them to say that...

 

[mhertz]

OK, I respect your opinion, but disagree... I'm sure ALOT of (top-brand)ejuice are made by USA manufactured soy-derived VG. ED is an exporter which wants to cover there ... and the actual manufacturer states otherwise Another big exporter of same VG states otherwise too... Also my point of very slightly small residue levels can very well be me misunderstanding something, as wouldn't be the first time

As stated before, I would personally choose palm-VG too, but just not for any allergen reasons though, although admittedly for no rational reason either...

Sorry, carry on

 

[vapesmooth123]

I just haven't looked for it, but if there's an official statement from the manufacturer or third party of health organization etc saying that the VGs not made from soy are actually allergen-free, then I'd have no problem giving a few bottles to friends of friends etc without worry. I just haven't looked into it. You're probably right.

 

[JoanJ]

I am pretty sure the majority, if not all, of the VG I have here is Palm derived. I used to be a soap maker and palm oil is one I am deathly allergic to. Just opening the pail caused me to swell and stop breathing. I learned to make good soaps without palm and palm kernel oils. I still make my own lotions and use the VG I have here. I have had no problem with it in undiluted form or the final product.

 

[vapesmooth123]

what do you mean, sorry.
"palm oil is one I am deathly allergic to."
"I learned to make good soaps without palm and palm kernel oils."

"I am pretty sure the majority, if not all, of the VG I have here is Palm derived."

"I still make my own lotions and use the VG I have here. I have had no problem with it in undiluted form or the final product."


So, you're referring to oil as a different product as VG? (in other words, like palm vegetable oil and not nearly as processed as palm VG?)

 

[Capt.shay]

what do you mean, sorry.

I'm just going to try and take a stab at an interpretation here:

"I am highly allergic to palm and palm oil but I use what I am pretty sure is palm derived VG and I have never had a reaction to it so there is none of the "palm" left after the glycerin is extract"

But I could be wrong here?

 

[vapesmooth123]

Yeah true, that's most likely what they're saying. I would STILL like to see some literature though before giving or selling juice to people and not worrying if they're allergic to palm, or mustard or corn etc. I feel for ya if you have an allergen, knock on wood, only thing I've ever been allergic to is cats but I built up a tolerance and have no allergens now.

 

[Capt.shay]

Yeah true, that's most likely what they're saying. I would STILL like to see some literature though before giving or selling juice to people and not worrying if they're allergic to palm, or mustard or corn etc.

It really sounds like you should not be selling it if you are not comfortable with it.

 

[vapesmooth123]

its not about being comfortable, it's about having proof that states it's still allergen-free. I don't sell juice so I'm not looking for such proof (it might only take a few minutes googling or an email to some manufacturers). But I do buy bulk gallons and have given away bottles here and there, but it's all palm based (non allergen).

Main reason I'd like to go in the non-palm direction is the environmental concern of palm production, and these non-palm versions are apparently sometimes domestic to the USA (another environmental plus for avoiding barging heavy goods from the other side of the earth).

Also, if it's organically grown, that's another plus (and guarantees it's non gmo such as corn-derived VG likely being GMO corn, which is said to be so refined that there's no concern but just the fact that it contributes to GMO, I'm one of those people that would rather they just didn't do GMO even if it's debatable that GMO is even bad).