Nutrition labels on ejuice?

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XfooYen

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Are we talking nutrition or ingredients? There's a big difference. Nutrition would only apply to food or any substance which is ingested. We don't ingest e-liquid. Nutritional information for e-liquid is unnecessary. I would consider any such labeling a marketing device to attract uneducated attention to the product. Ingredient labeling is a different story. That is valuable information for the buyer. Knowing the amount of food coloring, flavoring (artificial or natural), alcohol content present, PG, VG, etc. lets the buyer know exactly what they're getting.
 

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I think it has more to do with compliance with Future Regulations.

That's kinda what I was thinking. But still, it's a non-consumption product. Seems like they would list ingredients. Not ones that would give away their formula. But I've gotten some juice that has an "alcohol" taste to it and it's hard to get rid of. I noticed on some DIY sites that vodka is sometimes used for dilution of some juices. I don't drink, but I've sampled some adult beverages along the way and to me, vodka tastes like rubbing alcohol. From now on I am going to ask vendors if they use alcohol in their juices because I really can't stand this taste.

Anyone know of a way to get rid of this alcohol taste? I've tried steeping for extended periods of time to see if the alcohol just might evaporate, but with no success.
 

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no biggie just another pointless regulation for us to pay for. wonder how many millions if not billions we waste annually on bogus regulation.
Yes regulations are needed I do not have a clue as to decide what is pointless and what is needed until I see it. But the regulation makers are even less clueless than I am or so it seems.
 

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That's kinda what I was thinking. But still, it's a non-consumption product. Seems like they would list ingredients. Not ones that would give away their formula. But I've gotten some juice that has an "alcohol" taste to it and it's hard to get rid of. I noticed on some DIY sites that vodka is sometimes used for dilution of some juices. I don't drink, but I've sampled some adult beverages along the way and to me, vodka tastes like rubbing alcohol. From now on I am going to ask vendors if they use alcohol in their juices because I really can't stand this taste.

Anyone know of a way to get rid of this alcohol taste? I've tried steeping for extended periods of time to see if the alcohol just might evaporate, but with no success.

Alcohol is an unstable liquid. It evaporates much faster than water at high temperatures. If you wanted to rid your juice of any trace alcohol you could do a few things. Evaporation will take place with a greater surface area so you could transfer your juice to a wider mouth glass bottle (advisable) and GENTLY warm the solution by placing it in a shallow bath of very warm, NOT HOT, water. Keep your solution warm and free to breathe for several hours, shaking it every hour. If you still detect alcohol after the evaporation process, either that vendor uses too much alcohol in their solution or it's just nasty juice. Allow the solution to cool to room temp before you return the caps on the bottles.
 

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Alcohol is an unstable liquid. It evaporates much faster than water at high temperatures. If you wanted to rid your juice of any trace alcohol you could do a few things. Evaporation will take place with a greater surface area so you could transfer your juice to a wider mouth glass bottle (advisable) and GENTLY warm the solution by placing it in a shallow bath of very warm, NOT HOT, water. Keep your solution warm and free to breathe for several hours, shaking it every hour. If you still detect alcohol after the evaporation process, either that vendor uses too much alcohol in their solution or it's just nasty juice. Allow the solution to cool to room temp before you return the caps on the bottles.

Thanks for the suggestion. I was kinda thinking about something along those lines driving home earlier today.

I also contacted the maker of the "alcohol" tasting juice and they said they didn't use in the mixing process, however, they used it in the flavor extraction process. OOOOOHHHH-KAY. They must use a lot to still be able to taste and smell it after being made into juice. I'm not gonna ask how you use alcohol to extract the flavor. I'm sure it's some chemical process that an English Prof like me would have no idea what you are talking about anyway. But if you think you can put it in "Chemistry for Dummies" language, go for it LOL.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion. I was kinda thinking about something along those lines driving home earlier today.

I also contacted the maker of the "alcohol" tasting juice and they said they didn't use in the mixing process, however, they used it in the flavor extraction process. OOOOOHHHH-KAY. They must use a lot to still be able to taste and smell it after being made into juice. I'm not gonna ask how you use alcohol to extract the flavor. I'm sure it's some chemical process that an English Prof like me would have no idea what you are talking about anyway. But if you think you can put it in "Chemistry for Dummies" language, go for it LOL.

Basically with tobacco extracting, you would grind up cured tobacco leaves and steep them in a solution of pure alcohol for several hours. Grain alcohol should be used but some will actually use isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol to do it. If the latter is the case, then you could end up with a really nasty tasting juice until ALL the alcohol is gone. Once the solution is sufficiently steeped, it is strained through very fine paper or ss mesh to remove all solids. The alcohol is then heated slowly until it is completely evaporated. What you have left is concentrated extract. If all the liquid is evaporated, the extract is oily, thick and hard to measure so most will leave some alcohol content to give the solution measurable volume. This extraction method is not the only way to do it but it is faster. Some will slow-steep ingredients in PG or VG for many hours in a slow cooker to get an alcohol-free extract.
 

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If this kind of thing somehow becomes required it would be pure stupidity. I'm worried about lawyers and lobbyists creating selfish, idiotic regulations that become a barrier to those looking to enter the industry. I'm all about safety, but if the "regulators" start splitting hairs and we end up having only 5 "legitimate" e-liquid dealers because of it, I'll be .......
 

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Thanks zoiD and X. I'm still new to the vaping scene and I'm trying to learn all I can about it. Once I get to the VV part of my vaping journey and start fiddling with vaping hardware, such as making my own tanks and/or a mod maybe, I will get into the DIY ejuice. But this is a long time coming. The closest I've gotten to that so far is mixing some of my pre-made juices. (I mixed a pear juice with a cinnamon type juice and it's just like my grandmother's baked pears! YUM!)

Appreciate the help again all.
 
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